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  • SageInfinite
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    • Jul 2002
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    #136
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

    I don't get what people want turned off though. That's my thing.
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    • Skyboxer
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      • Jul 2002
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      #137
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

      I like it personally. Doesn't the icons "lighting up" just mean they will be looking for the ball and not that they are open?

      To me it adds to the game. I can't see all the receivers "heads" to see if they are looking for the ball and this is a good replacment IMO.

      It isn't telling you when to throw etc.. it simply is saying when they are looking.

      Unless I'm totally missing something.

      in any case.. I like it.
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      • SageInfinite
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        #138
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

        Originally posted by Skyboxer
        I like it personally. Doesn't the icons "lighting up" just mean they will be looking for the ball and not that they are open?

        To me it adds to the game. I can't see all the receivers "heads" to see if they are looking for the ball and this is a good replacment IMO.

        It isn't telling you when to throw etc.. it simply is saying when they are looking.

        Unless I'm totally missing something.

        in any case.. I like it.
        You got it exactly right. I don't get what the problem is.
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        • Big FN Deal
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          • Aug 2011
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          #139
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

          Originally posted by SageInfinite
          You got it exactly right. I don't get what the problem is.
          Think about like this, in real life a QB has to know the play well enough to be aware of when a receiver should be expecting the ball or not, they do not necessarily have a "tell"/visual indicator.

          Some people would like to have an option to turn off the visual aid/"tell", not the feature, for when a receiver is expecting the ball, to better simulate real life.

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          • Jarodd21
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            • Dec 2010
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            #140
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

            Originally posted by Senator Palmer

            Maybe it's going to work differently on different levels, but from what I've seen, this looks like training wheels to me. "Throw the ball when the icon lights up for proper timing." If that's the case, I'm with Jarrodd on this one. I don't like it. I can figure out the timing myself.
            That is all I'm saying.. I don't want it on during my game.. I like the CHALLENGE of scanning the field myself and finding the open WR who has turned his head around.. I don't need an icon to tell me that. All they have to do is make this an option so it won't be any problems.. It's the easiest thing they can do so everyone can be happy.. Some guys want it on and some guys don't...
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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #141
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

              Originally posted by Big FN Deal
              Think about like this, in real life a QB has to know the play well enough to be aware of when a receiver should be expecting the ball or not, they do not necessarily have a "tell"/visual indicator.

              Some people would like to have an option to turn off the visual aid/"tell", not the feature, for when a receiver is expecting the ball, to better simulate real life.
              The icons don't mean they are expecting the ball. It means they are looking so they aren't telling you really anything.
              I would agree if the icons said when they were open etc..
              You have to remember this is a video game trying to copy a "real world" experience on field with quick repsonses "visually".
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              • SageInfinite
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                • Jul 2002
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                #142
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                Think about like this, in real life a QB has to know the play well enough to be aware of when a receiver should be expecting the ball or not, they do not necessarily have a "tell"/visual indicator.

                Some people would like to have an option to turn off the visual aid/"tell", not the feature, for when a receiver is expecting the ball, to better simulate real life.
                But in real life they don't have icons above their receivers heads either, lol. The icons will be there regardless. Am I missing some aid that will be there? I don't get what people are wanting to turn off. It's not like they start flashing or pulsating or is anything distracting. It's the same exact thing except some receivers icons are dim. You can still throw the ball to them.
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                • Big FN Deal
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                  #143
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                  Originally posted by Skyboxer
                  The icons don't mean they are expecting the ball. It means they are looking so they aren't telling you really anything.
                  I would agree if the icons said when they were open etc..
                  You have to remember this is a video game trying to copy a "real world" experience on field with quick repsonses "visually".
                  Ok, so according to bold, why shouldn't people that want to, have an option to turn the VISUALS off then?

                  I really don't see what the issue is with people asking for that option. This same thing seems to happen when someone says they would like an option to hide OVR and other people chime in that OVR doesn't matter.

                  Cool then, there shouldn't be any confusion about why some people want an option to hide something that is no benefit to them, when displayed.

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                  • Big FN Deal
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                    • Aug 2011
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                    #144
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                    Originally posted by SageInfinite
                    But in real life they don't have icons above their receivers heads either, lol. The icons will be there regardless. Am I missing some aid that will be there? I don't get what people are wanting to turn off. It's not like they start flashing or pulsating or is anything distracting. It's the same exact thing except some receivers icons are dim. You can still throw the ball to them.
                    LOL. Are you guys being serious or just finding something to discuss until the next playbook drops? lol

                    What people are asking for is not the "deep" or strange, imo. Some people responded this same way when I mentioned commentators changing clothes, which prompted the hyperbole in my sig.

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                    • Jarodd21
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #145
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                      Originally posted by Skyboxer
                      The icons don't mean they are expecting the ball. It means they are looking so they aren't telling you really anything.
                      I would agree if the icons said when they were open etc..
                      You have to remember this is a video game trying to copy a "real world" experience on field with quick repsonses "visually".

                      What is the problem with some of us not wanting it on at all? The USER should know exactly what route every WR is doing on the field and the exact time there heads should be turning around.. I don't want an icon telling me when there heads are turned.. I want to be able to figure it out myself and time the throw.. With the Icons lighting up and letting you know that the WRs heads are turned it's making it easier on the USER to time the throw and find the open WRs.. IMO it's a CHALLENGE trying to time the pass and figure out when the WR is going to turn his head.. All they have to do is make this an option for us gamers who don't want to use it and for the gamers who want to use it.. It's that simple..
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                      • roadman
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                        • Aug 2003
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                        #146
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                        Actually, it's not as simple as it appears on the surface.

                        Options are always great, but if both games don't have the option as we speak, people who are in favor of turning it off should also plead their case on the NCAA side.

                        Options/controls will be the same this year.

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                        • Skyboxer
                          Donny Baseball!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 20302

                          #147
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                          Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                          Ok, so according to bold, why shouldn't people that want to, have an option to turn the VISUALS off then?

                          I really don't see what the issue is with people asking for that option. This same thing seems to happen when someone says they would like an option to hide OVR and other people chime in that OVR doesn't matter.

                          Cool then, there shouldn't be any confusion about why some people want an option to hide something that is no benefit to them, when displayed.
                          No its fine to want to have the option of the icons fading being turned off. My point is it is not doing anything other than a visual aid of when they are looking.
                          They could be double teamed but looking...

                          And lastly the icons will be there regardless. Yo'ull only be turning off the fade.
                          So actually if you really want less "clutter" you should want to keep this turned on as at some points there will be faded icons...

                          And yes I want more vids and info lol
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                          • Skyboxer
                            Donny Baseball!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #148
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                            Originally posted by Jarodd21
                            What is the problem with some of us not wanting it on at all? The USER should know exactly what route every WR is doing on the field and the exact time there heads should be turning around.. I don't want an icon telling me when there heads are turned.. I want to be able to figure it out myself and time the throw.. With the Icons lighting up and letting you know that the WRs heads are turned it's making it easier on the USER to time the throw and find the open WRs.. IMO it's a CHALLENGE trying to time the pass and figure out when the WR is going to turn his head.. All they have to do is make this an option for us gamers who don't want to use it and for the gamers who want to use it.. It's that simple..
                            There's nothing wrong with having the option to turn it off except the icons cant be turned off. You'll simply be turning off the fade.
                            And no it does not make it easier. It again does not mean they are open etc..
                            It simply means they are looking. You the user still need to pick the appropriate wr etc based on coverage etc..they could be double teamed and still looking.


                            In any case having the option to leave icons on at all times is an option that would be fine for those that want it.
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                            • Jarodd21
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #149
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                              Originally posted by Skyboxer
                              There's nothing wrong with having the option to turn it off except the icons cant be turned off. You'll simply be turning off the fade.
                              And no it does not make it easier. It again does not mean they are open etc..
                              It simply means they are looking. You the user still need to pick the appropriate wr etc based on coverage etc..they could be double teamed and still looking.


                              In any case having the option to leave icons on at all times is an option that would be fine for those that want it.
                              I'm not saying the WRs are open but it makes it easier on the USER locate the WRs who got there heads turned.. I like the challenge of finding the WRs on my own instead of an icon telling me the WRs are looking for the ball.. But the simple solution is to have this as an option.. That's all I'm asking for..
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                              • Big FN Deal
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                                • Aug 2011
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                                #150
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Gameplay Impressions

                                Originally posted by roadman
                                Actually, it's not as simple as it appears on the surface.

                                Options are always great, but if both games don't have the option as we speak, people who are in favor of turning it off should also plead their case on the NCAA side.

                                Options/controls will be the same this year.
                                I feel you Road and I am not directing this at you but it irks me the way EA/Tiburon seems to handle visual options, as a whole.

                                Back when they were doing podcasts for M12 and they directly addressed people asking for an option to hide OVR. They actually said they could easily add that option but that they would not because that would make it too hard for people. WTF? LOL

                                OVR is the best correlation to this because both have an under the hood and visual component. I respect the visual component for people that need it or want it but I don't get why they seem so resistant for an option to turn the visual component off for those who don't. Same thing applies with the DPP indicator from M12, where it informed you in the pause menu, players that had changed.

                                There are many things I would love to have just running under the hood, with an option to turn the visual "proof" off.

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