Madden NFL 13 Video Interview - EA Tiburon Breaks Down Some of the New Changes

[baller7345]

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thats totally fine taht you think that - (im aware of holding A to try and throw off the timing of the kick).

the rules that are in place for freestyle are there because you cant make a adjustments to your team to stop whats happening - ie fg blocks - i cant pinch my line, i cant hot route someone, same iwth onside kicks i cant make adjustments to stop what they are doing.

the blitzing threw the tackels thing is a colonol thing - im 100% ok wiht blitzing throught he tackles and so was VG.

just as you are frustrated with the 15 min qtr rule - is how i perceive the entire sim understanding.

you can be as sim as you want to make it

I actually agree with you on the no fg blocking rules and the onside kick rules even if I may agree with them for different reasons (if I play someone I don't want to see them kicking onside kicks everytime not because it used to be automatic). I was simply trying to imply that while you can say that nobody is "truly" sim it can be just as easily said that nobody is truly freestyle/tourney.

Many of the rules such as no moving players and even rules like no huddle and absolutely no rocket catches are actually much like WFColonel said about the onside kick rule, they are simply stuff that has carried over from past games.

As for me being frustrated at not playing 15 minute quarters it doesn't actually bother me. Sure I'd love to play 15 minute quarters if the game could reasonably produce realistic stats and if everyone had the time but it isn't something I'm going to question at its core.

I don't play the game because its a game I enjoy. I play the game because I love football and I want to keep it as close to football as I possibly can. That is my entire basis for playing sim. With as much as I mess around in practice mode I could just as easily play freestyle but I simply can't stand to play that way.

I have nothing against people who do play that way but I do find it annoying that people first response to a new madden involves things like trying every glitch that has ever been in madden (smoke posted a thread from the gamer's lab where many of the members said that was first on their to do list)instead of trying to apply real football to the game. Colonel says that its all on the developers but just because something is in the game doesn't mean you have to use it.

[sgibs7]

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i think we have reached the eye of the hurricane

[baller7345]

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i think we have reached the eye of the hurricane

That would be because normal people sleep.

However being a person that routinely pulled all nighters when Skyrim was first released and has been known to speed well over 12 hours at a time in practice mode in Madden I hardly know what sleep is.....though really I should be packing my RA is going to kick me out of here tomorrow.

[sgibs7]

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I actually agree with you on the no fg blocking rules and the onside kick rules even if I may agree with them for different reasons (if I play someone I don't want to see them kicking onside kicks everytime not because it used to be automatic). I was simply trying to imply that while you can say that nobody is "truly" sim it can be just as easily said that nobody is truly freestyle/tourney.
perfect - bc thats exactly what I believe. we are all only MADDEN players and thats it.

Many of the rules such as no moving players and even rules like no huddle and absolutely no rocket catches are actually much like WFColonel said about the onside kick rule, they are simply stuff that has carried over from past games.
Ok correct them and our update them. Hes incorrect about some of the things he said about those rules.

As for me being frustrated at not playing 15 minute quarters it doesn't actually bother me. Sure I'd love to play 15 minute quarters if the game could reasonably produce realistic stats and if everyone had the time but it isn't something I'm going to question at its core.
But its not about that - its about simulating a NFL experiance and you arent doing that if you dont adhere to this. Thats your decision taht you dont question it but you are again stating that its ok to side step certain sim standards and rules as you deem neccesary.

I don't play the game because its a game I enjoy. I play the game because I love football and I want to keep it as close to football as I possibly can. That is my entire basis for playing sim. With as much as I mess around in practice mode I could just as easily play freestyle but I simply can't stand to play that way.
so then you need to start playing 15 min qtrs or else you arent sim at all.

I have nothing against people who do play that way but I do find it annoying that people first response to a new madden involves things like trying every glitch that has ever been in madden (smoke posted a thread from the gamer's lab where many of the members said that was first on their to do list)instead of trying to apply real football to the game. Colonel says that its all on the developers but just because something is in the game doesn't mean you have to use it.

dont group me into that subset - thats not what I do or how I play the game

[sgibs7]

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That would be because normal people sleep.

However being a person that routinely pulled all nighters when Skyrim was first released and has been known to speed well over 12 hours at a time in practice mode in Madden I hardly know what sleep is.....though really I should be packing my RA is going to kick me out of here tomorrow.

you mean its not normal to sit and battle about sim vs freestyle for 10 hours? haha

my video is at 90% upload - almost done.

will post in here

[baller7345]

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dont group me into that subset - thats not what I do or how I play the game

I wasn't attempting to group you in that group at all just stating what a fairly large portion of the freestyle players start off with.

You instance that if one doesn't play 15 minute quarters then they can't be playing sim is slightly ridiculous. Can you not play football unless you play 15 minute quarters. I play the game as if its real football or as close to it as I can possibly get. That doesn't mean if I play 8 minute quarters or 6 minute quarters I'm playing the game any differently other than the game will result in less plays. Sim isn't just about adhering completely to the NFL template if it was I'd never recognize the college Air Raid or the college Spread as viable sim offenses unless I was playing NCAA. If Madden had the A11 I'd say go ahead and try to run it if you want. Its more about playing the game as much like football as possible.

[baller7345]

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you mean its not normal to sit and battle about sim vs freestyle for 10 hours? haha

my video is at 90% upload - almost done.

will post in here

HAHA

Posting on a forum in the first place means we leave normal behind. Being very passionate about a game to the point that you sit in front of a computer going back and forth for hours is the point that many psychologist would deem obsessive behavior.

....Its a good thing I think psychology is one of the worst branches of science.

[sgibs7]

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I wasn't attempting to group you in that group at all just stating what a fairly large portion of the freestyle players start off with.

You instance that if one doesn't play 15 minute quarters then they can't be playing sim is slightly ridiculous. Can you not play football unless you play 15 minute quarters. I play the game as if its real football or as close to it as I can possibly get. That doesn't mean if I play 8 minute quarters or 6 minute quarters I'm playing the game any differently other than the game will result in less plays. Sim isn't just about adhering completely to the NFL template if it was I'd never recognize the college Air Raid or the college Spread as viable sim offenses unless I was playing NCAA. If Madden had the A11 I'd say go ahead and try to run it if you want. Its more about playing the game as much like football as possible.

again another flaw in the sim system.

big fn deal ( i think it was him ) is all about th NFL Simulation aspect - you just want football.

u can play football and not run football concepts - i do it all the time in the backyard on thanksgiving.

so SIM now just needs to be like football and thats it? doesnt need to represent a NFL simulation?

[sgibs7]

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HAHA

Posting on a forum in the first place means we leave normal behind. Being very passionate about a game to the point that you sit in front of a computer going back and forth for hours is the point that many psychologist would deem obsessive behavior.

....Its a good thing I think psychology is one of the worst branches of science.

my wife has been looking at me like this...

[baller7345]

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again another flaw in the sim system.

big fn deal ( i think it was him ) is all about th NFL Simulation aspect - you just want football.

u can play football and not run football concepts - i do it all the time in the backyard on thanksgiving.

so SIM now just needs to be like football and thats it? doesnt need to represent a NFL simulation?

Ok slight correction then, I need organized football. I love learning the concepts that are used by various offenses and defense more than I love Madden. I am past the point I can actually play football (at any competitive level) and while I guess I could coach a Pop Warner squad (I assume, is 23 old enough to coach youth football?) I simply don't have any other outlet to apply all the concepts that I read about.

Madden isn't perfect and not every concept will actually work (I was sad when triple inside blaze turned out to be a blitz concept that doesn't translate) but it still gives me a place to apply what I've learned. In that manner it is my football simulation.

[baller7345]

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my wife has been looking at me like this...

Its probably a combination of that being funny and me being sleep deprived from a week of finals but the visualization of that gave me my best laugh in quite awhile.

[sgibs7]

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Ok slight correction then, I need organized football. I love learning the concepts that are used by various offenses and defense more than I love Madden. I am past the point I can actually play football and while I guess I could coach a Pop Warner squad (I assume, is 23 old enough to coach youth football?) I simply don't have any other outlet to apply all the concepts that I read about.

Madden isn't perfect and not every concept will actually work (I was said when triple inside blaze turned out to be a blitz concept that doesn't translate) but it still gives me a place to apply what I've learned. In that manner it is my football simulation.

so im still running football concepts - i take bench and make it a 4 verticals. i change a deep out from a strong flood and make it a slant out - still does the same thing - so then thats sim?

[Smoke6]

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smoke do you play 15 min qtrs for every game?

No.

8 min quarters at most with acc clock, I am pretty sure you would enjoy yourself by atleast trying to abide by a SIM leagues rules and regulations for a season. I have been thru the ringer dealing with freestyle players and those who were trying to be freestyle players because they were tired of losing to them and it was the only way for them to play the game online.

Now you got this younger gen of people who think its cool now to find these gimmicks and exploits in the game and use them on any and everybody.

My main thought an concern is: Why kill off the potential that you have in competition when everyone can be on the same page as far as game play goes? it doesnt make sense, I am sure there would be tons of people flocking to compete in madden like they wer doing back when they were doing 32 cities tours for MCs! All that died with the main reason of people being allowed to cheat!

You gotta open your eyes, I see it from both sides and winning and money is just not that important to me if I cant do it right to begin with. You might as well just tell me to stick my hands up and take my money and move on, because im gonna feel the same way if you cheated me for it anyway!

[sgibs7]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4lQ7gTFxZs&feature=youtu.be

chck it out

[sgibs7]

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No.

8 min quarters at most with acc clock, I am pretty sure you would enjoy yourself by atleast trying to abide by a SIM leagues rules and regulations for a season. I have been thru the ringer dealing with freestyle players and those who were trying to be freestyle players because they were tired of losing to them and it was the only way for them to play the game online.

Now you got this younger gen of people who think its cool now to find these gimmicks and exploits in the game and use them on any and everybody.

My main thought an concern is: Why kill off the potential that you have in competition when everyone can be on the same page as far as game play goes? it doesnt make sense, I am sure there would be tons of people flocking to compete in madden like they wer doing back when they were doing 32 cities tours for MCs! All that died with the main reason of people being allowed to cheat!

You gotta open your eyes, I see it from both sides and winning and money is just not that important to me if I cant do it right to begin with. You might as well just tell me to stick my hands up and take my money and move on, because im gonna feel the same way if you cheated me for it anyway!

if i play the sim extremist role i think if you dont play 15 min qtrs then you arent representing a simulation of the NFL.

you cant just decide to ignore certain things and then acknolwedge others as you see fit

thats fair right?