Catcher Calling a Terrible Game

[papagiorgio]

Playing RTTS as a SP. My double-A catcher is a moron. He calls for sliders to start an at-bat and belt-high changeups with an 0-2 count. He's actually called for some belt-high sinkers, too. Does this get better or should I just start throwing whatever I want? I'm not getting many strikeouts, but when I go with what he calls, I get absolutely lit up!

[nomo17k]

Re: Catcher Calling a Terrible Game

You don't have to go by what your catcher calls. Just shake off and make your pitch.

I kinda feel API doesn't call as good a game down in minors. Not sure if API is different at different levels or with lower attributes...

[h4mbon3s]

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Throw whatever you want. The catchers in the minors usually don't call good games.

[lilgame06]

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i feel like sometimes, the cpu will purposely make your catcher make odd calls to give your cpu opponent a chance at rallying on you...particularly if your team is leading or your pitcher is hot.

Ive started to pick up on a trend where if I have the lead going into the 6th and 7th innings, the cpu starts hacking away at everything. The two pitches that the catcher seems to call that get smacked for homers in times of desperate measures are the change up down and in, and the slider down and in. Whenever the catcher calls for it, i just ignore it and pitch elsewhere, cause i feel like im being set up for failure. there are times where its an appropriate pitch...but that time never seems to be when the computer is down in a close game.

[nomo17k]

Re: Catcher Calling a Terrible Game

i feel like sometimes, the cpu will purposely make your catcher make odd calls to give your cpu opponent a chance at rallying on you...particularly if your team is leading or your pitcher is hot.

Ive started to pick up on a trend where if I have the lead going into the 6th and 7th innings, the cpu starts hacking away at everything. The two pitches that the catcher seems to call that get smacked for homers in times of desperate measures are the change up down and in, and the slider down and in. Whenever the catcher calls for it, i just ignore it and pitch elsewhere, cause i feel like im being set up for failure. there are times where its an appropriate pitch...but that time never seems to be when the computer is down in a close game.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043493906

[papagiorgio]

Re: Catcher Calling a Terrible Game

How do you shake off your catcher?

[nomo17k]

Re: Catcher Calling a Terrible Game

How do you shake off your catcher?

You just make your own pitch selection and location regardless of what the API calls. Nothing special you need to do.

[Azamien]

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The two pitches that the catcher seems to call that get smacked for homers in times of desperate measures are the change up down and in

That's a pitch you should never throw anyway. If you're throwing a change-up for a strike it should be on the outside portion of the plate. Throwing it anywhere else in the strike zone is just asking for the ball to get crushed. If you ever see a pitcher in real life throw a change-up in the inner part of the zone, he missed his spot badly.

The API calls for some really stupid pitches at times. If you're going to use it, be willing to ignore it sometimes.

[Abigfish]

I have been using fan graphs data as well as an app called batting goggles which is outdated but seems to have fairly accurate hot and cold zones. I mix up my pitches locations and speed and that seems to work for me. The API is sometimes not the best way too go.

[seanjeezy]

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That's a pitch you should never throw anyway. If you're throwing a change-up for a strike it should be on the outside portion of the plate. Throwing it anywhere else in the strike zone is just asking for the ball to get crushed. If you ever see a pitcher in real life throw a change-up in the inner part of the zone, he missed his spot badly.

The API calls for some really stupid pitches at times. If you're going to use it, be willing to ignore it sometimes.

Tell that to Felix Hernandez lol

Location on 0-2 counts against right-handed batters:



A changeup down and in can be one of the deadliest pitches in baseball if used properly, he's probably the only guy that does this though.

[HechticSooner]

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The thing with the changeup in is that for the most part you want to make sure it is out of the zone. If you leave it in the zone you are more then likely seeing that pitch pulled over the wall. If it is out of the zone its going foul more then not, or being pounded into the ground if its both in and down. If you have a dominate fastball though the inside changeup is a great out pitch.

As far as the calling of games the catchers call any pitch anywhere, which we all know isn't realistic at all. I'm never throwing a slider belt high or above that is in the zone. I'm never throwing a sinker up in the zone period so why is he programmed to even ask for it. Of course the guys with the better call game ratings do much better and thus why you see it more in the minors than the majors.

[bcruise]

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I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but I believe the reason the AI catcher calls for so many pitches over the plate (even ones that shouldn't end up there) is because it's trying to compensate for the notion that the pitcher will probably miss that mark due to the low ratings. The problem with that is that the pitcher is just as likely to miss to either side, and that means you stand a pretty good chance of throwing meatballs if you follow it exactly.

Personally I think API calls for too many strikes anyway even in normal games, and as such I only use it as a general area guide for where to pitch rather than the exact spot. For example, if the API calls for something down and away, but still in the zone, I'll often times push my aiming marker even more toward that corner or even off the plate. And if I'm way ahead in the count I'll move it away from that dot even more, to make waste pitches that will almost certainly miss the plate.

Of course I will walk people like this at times, but it's better than leaving a fat one over the middle. Especially when the bullpen takes over - the low ratings of those pitchers can turn one fat fastball into a homerun, as many of us well know. I'd MUCH rather walk someone with a reliever than leave it out over the plate.

[Geronimo22]

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Is it just me or do catchers have different abilities to call a good game?

In my 3 franchises (yes 3!) lol - I've allowed the catcher API to call the games and I've noticed that lower rated and/or youngs catchers call very conservative and predictable games.

Nomo said catchers in the minors they call horrible games, so my findings would go right along the same path as his.

Anybody else notice a difference in catchers ability to call a game?