$120 Saved - No '13 Football for me

[Kanobi]

I don't know if this thread will be locked or what....but I'm just done with EA football...the gameplay, the graphics, the commentary, features being axed then re-introduced as new, features being marketed as groundbreaking when nfl2k had them almost 10 yrs ago on a last-gen system.

I applaud EA's killer-instinct and foresight. They knew where nfl2k was headed...they saw an nba2k vs. nba live type of destiny for their flagship sports title (Madden) and took the necessary measures to ensure it didn't occur. I can respect that in some ways. Had I been at the helm of EA Sports, I'd have made the same move because, at the end of the day, it was an act of desperation. In those situations, you do what you have to do.

However, as a gamer, I consider EA's locking down of the NFL license one of the most tragic moments in gaming history.....not just sportsgaming....but GAMING history. Anytime the consumer's choice is eliminated...it's a bad thing. Whenever competition is eliminated...its wrong.

Its to the point now where I watch these gameplay/presentation videos for NCAA and Madden 13 and I just shake my head. There just isnt enough improvement to warrant giving up $120 for both or even $60 for one. I own the '12 versions of both titles. But those were the first EA Football purchases I've made since '06. Yep... 5 years....on average thats about how long it takes me to see significant enough upgrades to give up the cash for NCAA and/or Madden . So im not due for another EA football buy until next-gen.

But what do I do until then? When i play NBA2k12 ...it almost hurts my heart to even fathom what an NFL2k12 would look, sound and play like. I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that the NFL License is freed up soon and 2k or some other innovative developer jumps into the arena with their take on the NFL. I know it'll be raw....but it'll be somethin different....somethin "other than". For me personally, that may be well worth 60 bucks.

[Segagendude]

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Umm, yay you?

[nzldp4]

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That's it ?!! 420 $ and still saving!!

Yay me!!

[Scarface-93]

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Dont know if you guys are just cheap but im really scratching my head.
For me its worth the 60 bucks each year just to know that im playing the newest version, be able to play all the rookies and experience those little tweaks they made, because so far, each madden felt a little bit different to me.
And by the way, im living in a country where you have to spend about 80$s for a game ;-)

[MrChainsaw]

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Good for you. I plan on fully enjoying both games for what they are, because I love football and have no other options for modern football games. And I am perfectly okay with that.

Great thread, would read again.

[Vaporub83]

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funny how you bash EA when the NFL put the license up for sale. Your discontent is misguided be angry with the NFL not EA. Don't forget that 2k did the same thing with the MLB license. IF you don't think the game has improved enough go ahead don't buy, but don't rock the boat with misguided hatred

[JayBee74]

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Dont know if you guys are just cheap but im really scratching my head.
For me its worth the 60 bucks each year just to know that im playing the newest version, be able to play all the rookies and experience those little tweaks they made, because so far, each madden felt a little bit different to me.
And by the way, im living in a country where you have to spend about 80$s for a game ;-)

Why throw your money away on something you don't like? Now the expectation of something better would entice me even if it was finally done by EA (Actually some of the "alleged" improvements this year got my notice, but how many times has the hype swallowed up the reality?), but you seem content with mediocrity plus updates. No knock against you, but I have been so BORED with Madden since forever.

[Kanobi]

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Why throw your money away on something you don't like? Now the expectation of something better would entice me even if it was finally done by EA (Actually some of the "alleged" improvements this year got my notice, but how many times has the hype swallowed up the reality?), but you seem content with mediocrity plus updates. No knock against you, but I have been so BORED with Madden since forever.

Exactly! its got nothing to do with being cheap. As I said before, I own the '12 editions of Madden and NCAA and still play them. However, for me personally, the '13 versions don't appear to be worth a purchase. And as much as people bash NFL2k5, the fact that it's still in the conversation speaks volumes. Seriously, 'read and react' defense? DB head-tracking of the ball is finally in Madden? That's ridiculous but its one of the luxuries EA Sports has now that there's no competition. They can trickle out long overdue gameplay upgrades whenever they want and slap some catchy title on it to make it seem like they've broken new ground when the very same feature was introduced almost 10 years ago by 2k. And they get away with it because nobody outside of the hardcore fooball gaming community will Know any better or even care.

[BuddhaBaller]

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Isn't it funny how monopolies are supposed to be illegal in the United States?

Regardless of how you feel about spending your money (seriously, to each his own when it comes to $) competition is the basis of quality in America. Every product and company needs a major competitor. That's how you actually get good and innovative things in any industry. Of course, competition means less money for individuals...and we all know what lengths people and businesses will go to keep that wallet thick.

Shame on both EA and the NFL.

[mestevo]

Isn't it funny how monopolies are supposed to be illegal in the United States?

Regardless of how you feel about spending your money (seriously, to each his own when it comes to $) competition is the basis of quality in America. Every product and company needs a major competitor. That's how you actually get good and innovative things in any industry. Of course, competition means less money for individuals...and we all know what lengths people and businesses will go to keep that wallet thick.

Shame on both EA and the NFL.

There's a reason looking up exclusive doesn't list monopoly as a synonym... and that would be that they're not the same thing. You can search for any number of threads that have tried and failed to make that argument in the past.

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[BuddhaBaller]

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There's a reason looking up exclusive doesn't list monopoly as a synonym... and that would be that they're not the same thing. You can search for any number of threads that have tried and failed to make that argument in the past.

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You are saying the NFL doesn't have a monopoly on football either, then? They are just exclusive? Please. I'm not a teenager.

It is sad to see that, as a country, we have become so conditioned that we don't even know what a monopoly actually means anymore. We have become confused with companies buying other companies, brands "owning" other brands. Enjoy your "exclusive" game but next time you want to result to passive-aggressive pseudo-intellectual comments, make sure you know what you are talking about. A description of a monopoly for you:

A monopoly (from Greek monos μόνος (alone or single) + polein πωλεῖν (to sell)) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity....Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition to produce the good or service and a lack of viable substitute goods.

You're right....that doesn't describe Madden perfectly or anything. Businesses are, indeed, not stupid. They know using terms like "exclusive" allows them to leap through massive legal loopholes and by categorizing their products accordingly, they can avoid specifying their good, thus more easily being able to point to potential "viable substitutes". How do you not understand that? That's what is funny about it. It is like saying you can't have blue in America so everyone just labels it "Navy".

[mestevo]

You are saying the NFL doesn't have a monopoly on football either, then? They are just exclusive? Please. I'm not a teenager.<br />
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Almost every major corporation in America is a monopoly. It is sad to see that that, as a country, we have become so conditioned that we don't even know what that means anymore. Also, I'm not really sure why you are so offended that you would result to passive-aggressive comments.....oh wait...nevermind. I forgot this was the internet and everybody is a hipster.

Defensive much? There's nothing passive aggressive about my post, you've confused exclusivity with a monopoly, now you are confusing popularity with it too. I defer to the umpteen other threads discussing this on the forum.

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[Suntan Superman]

I feel like this thread gets made every year.

[PVarck31]

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This thread isn't gonna work. Not gonna let it turn into an EA bitch fest and an argument about exclusivity. This has been discussed many times.