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  • RGiles36
    MVP
    • Jan 2008
    • 3957

    #211
    Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

    Watched the clip last night and what can you say -- it certainly doesn't do any favors for the much-talked-about new commentary engine. I don't play NCAA, but if they're sharing the same commentary tech as Madden, I have to be a little concerned.

    As far as gameplay goes, you either love it, find it serviceable, or hate it. I fall right there in the middle, so I didn't find anything in this video that really turned me off. Some of the pass coverage was whacky, but that happens in every football game from time to time. I actually liked the pass catching. Guys getting their heads around to look for the ball does wonders visually, and brings a layer of realism to the passing game.
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    • jmurphy31
      MVP
      • Jun 2008
      • 2803

      #212
      Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

      Well that was not what I was expecting from a commentary perspective. It was pretty dry and way too much dead space. I usaully buy NCAA to get ready for Madden, but I may skip it this year....It just seems like a boring game -- based off this video. Hopefully Madden isnt as bad commentary wise, but I have a feeling it will be similar.

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      • JerzeyReign
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 4847

        #213
        Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

        Originally posted by rgiles36
        Watched the clip last night and what can you say -- it certainly doesn't do any favors for the much-talked-about new commentary engine. I don't play NCAA, but if they're sharing the same commentary tech as Madden, I have to be a little concerned.

        As far as gameplay goes, you either love it, find it serviceable, or hate it. I fall right there in the middle, so I didn't find anything in this video that really turned me off. Some of the pass coverage was whacky, but that happens in every football game from time to time. I actually liked the pass catching. Guys getting their heads around to look for the ball does wonders visually, and brings a layer of realism to the passing game.
        I think the discouragement comes from the wacky coverage happening too often in NCAA '12.

        Whats funny is that in NCAA '12 the safety will have his back to the ball but finds where its being thrown almost instantly and the safety in this video is looking right at it and didn't even attempt to make a play on it.
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        • Da-Man
          Pro
          • Aug 2008
          • 625

          #214
          Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

          The dead air is really bad and stale.

          The gameplay kinda looks the same but probably plays better than 12.

          The studio updates are not perfect but will help add some immersion to your dynasty.

          Overall it looks and sounds like an EA sports video game.

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          • DJ
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2003
            • 17756

            #215
            Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

            Originally posted by rudyjuly2
            I think the presentation and atmosphere were done much better on the PS2. I really miss the player movement from the PS2 as well. I don't think we'll ever get real foot planting or a heavier player momentum system as long as the current group of guys is making this game. They just don't want to implement it and I don't believe it's software related. Part of me has thought about buying an old PS2 and NCAA 06 instead.

            Last year's game really frustrated me with the super LBs and the super toned down r-stick juke. Those are supposed to be improved and the new recruiting is interesting. I expect the game to be better than last year's which I didn't like. To really push me into buying I want to see the cpu run the spread and run an offense effectively that isn't a pro style offense. The push for everything online also seems that EA doesn't care enough about cpu AI though.

            I think many of us could like this game but I don't see anyone saying that NCAA 13 will emulate college football the way the Show does baseball or NBA 2K does basketball.
            I'm bringing my PS2 Slim up from the basement and am going to start playing NCAA 06. Just use generic names and go with it.

            I was playing the FIFA DEMO on Vita last night and was blown away by how dynamic the crowd was. I'm not a soccer guy, but I can see why people gravitate towards that game. The commentary is miles ahead of what NCAA brings to the table ... and again, this is just based off of what I saw from the DEMO last night.

            Watched the video again and the game just doesn't have enough life to it. Way too similar to 12, IMO.
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            • rspencer86
              MIB Crew
              • Sep 2004
              • 8806

              #216
              Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

              Can anyone give me even one good reason why EA's marketing department put this video out?

              It's had a negative impact on excitement for the game.

              If you are going to put out video pre-release, it should look good and highlight several new additions to the game. This has the score update — which had already been detailed in previous videos — but that's about it. Commentary was poor, gameplay had some question marks (DB reaction on TD pass), and there is no atmosphere at all.
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              • Pezell04x
                MVP
                • Apr 2010
                • 2907

                #217
                Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                SPOILER ALERT: This may be a positive reply to this video:

                - Right off the bat, I love the ESPN ticker. It looks really good on the screen and is that little nuance that people are looking for. The "priority score alert" at 1:31 is also a nice touch. Also, the scoreboard looks a little different. Not a huge change, but big enough where I believe it doesn't look the same.

                - The drum line after the first down is nice. I can't remember if that happened last year, but it really seemed to stand out this time.

                - The Studio Update is definitely choppy and pieced together, but what did people expect coming from the NCAA team? The NCAA team can't get commentary correct, did you really believe that they would get this correct? Look at Madden last year, the same thing happened with Gus Johnson. It's not as bad, not even close to the abomination that Gus was, but it's noticeable. With that said, I like it. It breaks up the game a little and adds that Saturday feel to it.

                - The crowd on the touchdown is definitely louder than NCAA 12. I think we also need to put into consideration that the crowd noise slider probably isn't at 100, where most of us will probably move it. Either way, the crowd noise sounded different on the TD. Is it good throughout the game? Probably not because through most of the drive, it was quiet. I wish they would show us USC's defense on a 3rd down play because that's probably when the crowd will be the loudest in a non-touchdown situation.

                - Also the ESPN wipe before the TD replay seems new.

                - Body paint on the crowd seems new.

                - The safety looked lost on the TD. This could be a few things:
                1. The "read and react" is just a smoke screen
                2. Awareness actually means something and this safety's awareness is low. If you go to the Oregon Ducks roster, #27 (who is the safety in this video) is a sophomore. It's entirely possible that he's...just...not good. In 2011 he had 2 interceptions and 10 pass break-ups. Again, totally possible that his awareness is garbage.

                Hopefully it's closer to 2 then 1.

                I'm about to talk about commentary. It may be a little long.

                Commentary seems to be everyone's biggest beef when it comes to an NCAA game. Unfortunately, everyone compares commentary to the two "Titans of Commentary", NBA 2K series and MLB: The Show series. What perplexes me a little is why people don't compare this EA sports game to every other EA sports game in terms of commentary.

                ---

                Ever play NHL 12? Here's a piece of the commentary for my team (the Bruins).

                Blah blah blah "The Bruins haven't won the Stanley Cup since 1972" [despite winning the game in the 2010-2011 season].

                When you pass the puck to someone, here's the commentary:

                Chara...(pass to Bergeron)...to Bergeron. [Bergeron skates around, dead air, passes to Marchand] To Marchand. [Marchand skates around, turns the puck over] A turnover.

                The commentary is horrible.

                Lets look at Madden 12. Gus Johnson. Enough said. That commentary is so jumbled, I'm surprised people aren't suing EA for making their ears bleed.

                [Tom Brady passes to Wes Welker for a TD]

                "TOM BRADY passes to....Wes WELKER!"

                [team lines up for kickoff]

                "TOUCHDOWN!"

                The only EA game that ever got it right was FIFA, which is their best selling sports game.

                ---

                The same happened in NHL 11 and Madden 11. Commentary has never been EA's strong suit and if you compare it with past EA Sports games, you should be able to temper your expectations.

                Everything in Madden 13, commentary wise, looks awesome. Has there been any in-game commentary shown yet? What happens if it is implemented the same way. Sure, there's like a million hours of lines recorded from Simms and Nantz, but if you look at the past body of work, you'll see EA's track record with commentary is terrible.

                I have an issue with people who say "Well, it looks like NCAA 12". Well, yeah, it's going to. EA isn't going to change the graphics from one year to the next, especially when the graphics in NCAA 12 were good!

                Why would they completely scrap this engine (which won't happen, btw) to give a graphical update of a good looking game?

                I honestly think the washed out colors has to do with the HDR lighting. Look at NCAA 11. Good colors that pop. Once HDR lighting was implemented, washed out colors.

                Overall I think the game will be an upgrade. It may not be an upgrade the size that Madden is getting, but I think it will be more than NCAA 12.5. It's tough to judge things like pass trajectory from watching some scrub play on Varsity.
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                • michigan21
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 547

                  #218
                  Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  I'm bringing my PS2 Slim up from the basement and am going to start playing NCAA 06. Just use generic names and go with it.

                  I was playing the FIFA DEMO on Vita last night and was blown away by how dynamic the crowd was. I'm not a soccer guy, but I can see why people gravitate towards that game. The commentary is miles ahead of what NCAA brings to the table ... and again, this is just based off of what I saw from the DEMO last night.

                  Watched the video again and the game just doesn't have enough life to it. Way too similar to 12, IMO.
                  I was never a soccer guy either, but i'll sing the praises of fifa 12 because the gameplay, the crowd, the announcers are done insanely well. When you listen to the announcers in fifa 12, they comment on how the refs usually call a game. Some refs call the games tight, and some others call it loose. I would never expect that from ncaa.
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                  • SnakeEyez
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 353

                    #219
                    Re: GamePlay Footage: USC Oregon

                    the hype machine can't really hide that this is NCAA12.5

                    there's almost nothing from that vid that makes it look more fun than '12 was...
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                    • splff3000
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2867

                      #220
                      Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                      Originally posted by rspencer86
                      Can anyone give me even one good reason why EA's marketing department put this video out?
                      LMAO, This is exactly what I was thinking as I was watching the vid lol. The DB's reaction on that TD pass had me going wtf? lol If I'm getting frustrated just LOOKING at the gameplay, what do you think is gonna happen when I start actually playing? lol

                      Also, what was the deal on that one play where the CB followed the WR across the field like it was man, but everyone was paying zone? That looked like some kinda glitch. NCAA with glitches? I can't believe it. **sarcasm**
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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #221
                        Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                        The people who do the presentation for this game are so disappointing. Every year, the game is lifeless as you watch it.

                        How about some camera cuts? Better use of the playcalling screen? Good grief... how can they continue to make the game lifeless and stale year after year.

                        The sad thing is they would be able to liven up the game with just a few presentation touches here and there.
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                        • splff3000
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2867

                          #222
                          Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          The people who do the presentation for this game are so disappointing. Every year, the game is lifeless as you watch it.

                          How about some camera cuts? Better use of the playcalling screen? Good grief... how can they continue to make the game lifeless and stale year after year.

                          The sad thing is they would be able to liven up the game with just a few presentation touches here and there.
                          You're right. The game seems to have no emotion whatsoever. It's disappointing because, right now, after looking at that vid, I can't make myself buy this game and I love NCAA. Hopefully when we see some later builds or something, things will be a lot better and I can get back on the NCAA train, but right now,
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                          • WatShot
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 70

                            #223
                            Canceling my preorder and switching my money over to Madden. This game is a complete joke and I'm not falling for the crap EA CFB team is serving. I really hope that the exclusive license would be dropped and we can have different suitors to offer us a game. The NFL game looks like it could be the best to ever hit this gen.

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                            • Perfect Zero
                              1B, OF
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 4012

                              #224
                              Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2

                              I'm looking at this and seeing NCAA 11 with a prettier interlude with the ESPN graphics. I've been critical of EA over the past few years, but I really want them to make a great game that makes me want to buy it. I just can't justify putting down $60 on a game that is the same as what I already have.

                              Stuff like this is burning me out. I used to buy upwards of five to six sports games as little as four years ago. Now-a-days I only purchase the Show, and even that is starting to get stale. Just thinking out loud I guess...
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                              • outkaz79
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 449

                                #225
                                Re: NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Video - Oregon vs. USC - Part 2



                                Unbelievable

                                Dead Air is still there
                                Little Arms Glitch is still there (Look at the TD..that big *** tight end has the arms of a punter)
                                NCAA 12.5
                                Beach Ball football still there

                                Pre-Order canceled on lunch

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