Madden NFL 13 Video - Gameplay With Jim Nantz and Phil Simms In-Game Commentary

[Jetpac]

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It just seems like some of the people in charge STILL don't get it.

I knew something would be wrong when they were showing Jim Nantz and Phil reading from sheets of paper a couple of weeks back.

if there is a particular line they want them to say WHY DON'T THEY just recreate that particular play in Madden for them to see, and they can just comment on the fly...it would sound SO MUCH MORE Natural.

The part where there was an INT, Jim just sounded so robotic...so scripted. If they recreated that play in Madden for him (and I'm sure the programers can)...then he would probably sound more excited or surprised. "OH AND ITS INTERCEPTED!" O_O


when you are just reading from a script, it shows. I know Jim and Phil don't have all day to be at the studios, but that is where the programers need to do the dirty work and create a set of plays in the game that are queued up by a press of a button...and the director can push that button and Jim and Phil can watch the play live and react on the fly...if they mess up, re-record.

I know Phil's color commentary would still need to be scripted....as well as some parts from Jim but for game changing plays they need to show more believable emotion.

heck even Phil could let out a "OOOOOHHHH" when an INT happens, while Jim is also reacting as well.

I think the UFC devs did this well, with Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg's reactions where there are KO's in their games. Mike is doing his normal commentary, THEN ALL THE SUDDEN there is a "OOOOOOOH" from both commentators. as someone goes down or is hit hard.

Dude you hit it on the head. Point blank period.

[GiantBlue76]

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No man you don't understand how it works, sometimes when you invest in new technology it isn't actually noticed until the game after. Just because they invested in the new tech last year doesn't mean it was a part of Madden 12. Anyway, the commentary in Madden 13 is brand new, and the technology running the commentary is brand new, nothing is recycled from last year. That hasn't been the case with Madden commentary on any current gen game.

Actually, I DO understand how it works. You misunderstood what I was saying. I KNOW they didn't put the new technology in Madden 12. What I was saying was, they did not add any new commentary technology to Madden 12 because they were still working on the "new" technology. That was the excuse last year as to why the commentary and audio was so horrid. However, now that is being contradicted by saying "they started from scratch for M13". Why would you be starting from scratch? This is what I meant when I said they did nothing for Madden 12. Does that mean they did NO work on audio during that cycle? In fact, it seems like they haven't done a thing in over 2 years until the M13 cycle. What happened to all of the work that the sound developers were putting into the "new" technology during Madden 12's cycle? It's always the same story with them. So frustrating...

[jpdavis82]

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I'm just saying you guys are making all these assumptions and it's what May? Most years we would never have even seen this much of a Madden game this early into development. I will start to worry if we are still having this discussion in late June/early July after seeing videos of the commentary.

If what I heard in the podcast that I posted is true, none of this stuff will be an issue. They talked about how they recorded several different reactions for plays(ints, tds, fumbles, long pass plays, sacks, etc..) and their emotional response will also be reflected by the magnitude of the game. I.E. bigger emotion in rivalry, snf, mnf, Playoff games, and the Super Bowl.

[Afrikan]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Gameplay With Jim Nantz and Phil Simms In-Game Commentary

I'm just saying you guys are making all these assumptions and it's what May? Most years we would never have even seen this much of a Madden game this early into development. I will start to worry if we are still having this discussion in late June/early July after seeing videos of the commentary.

If what I heard in the podcast that I posted is true, none of this stuff will be an issue. They talked about how they recorded several different reactions for plays(ints, tds, fumbles, long pass plays, sacks, etc..) and their emotional response will also be reflected by the magnitude of the game. I.E. bigger emotion in rivalry, snf, mnf, Playoff games, and the Super Bowl.

sounds good but I don't know how authentic the emotions would sound if they indeed still read off a script, besides I don't think they should be surprised by the reaction that video clip would cause.....

That is not a very good representation of the game, commentary wise...early state or not. I'm sure I could've edited that video enough to make it come across better by selecting certain audio clips and situations.....again even if it were an early build.

[at23steelers]

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sounds good but I don't know how authentic the emotions would sound if they indeed still read off a script, besides I don't think they should be surprised by the reaction that video clip would cause.....

That is not a very good representation of the game, commentary wise...early state or not. I'm sure I could've edited that video enough to make it come across better by selecting certain audio clips and situations.....again even if it were an early build.

But we already know they don't read off scripts. They write down what they want them to say, but then the audio designer noted, they always improvised and used there own words. No point in creating unwarranted speculation to things we already know.

[jpdavis82]

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But we already know they don't read off scripts. They write down what they want them to say, but then the audio designer noted, they always improvised and used there own words. No point in creating unwarranted speculation to things we already know.

This is true they said 99% of the commentary is unscripted

[Afrikan]

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This is true they said 99% of the commentary is unscripted

i think that more so in regards to back and forth banter.....but I'm talking about reactions to the plays on the field.

again, if they showed them a drive that was pre-scripted (the plays on the field) by the dev team and let Jim and Phill commentate on that drive...it would come off as more realistic. They wouldn't know when a big play is going to happen and would react genuinely.

sure, they are not in a huge stadium and it is obviously a videogame...but I think the audio people in charge could have a setup that would make it easier for Jim and Phil to feel the situation.

[jpdavis82]

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i think that more so in regards to back and forth banter.....but I'm talking about reactions to the plays on the field.

again, if they showed them a drive that was pre-scripted (the plays on the field) by the dev team and let Jim and Phill commentate on that drive...it would come off as more realistic. They wouldn't know when a big play is going to happen and would react genuinely.

sure, they are not in a huge stadium and it is obviously a videogame...but I think the audio people in charge could have a setup that would make it easier for Jim and Phil to feel the situation.

They did pump real crowd noise into their headsets, but I know what you are saying.

[Afrikan]

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They did pump real crowd noise into their headsets, but I know what you are saying.

it is what it is.....right now my only issues with the game so far (from what we know, or have seen) is

Commentary
Motion Blur being overused (from some of the clips it seems that way)
and their approach to the PS Vita version.

besides that, I'm still getting the game because I enjoyed Madden 12....first Madden I've enjoyed in a long time.

[at23steelers]

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it is what it is.....right now my only issues with the game so far (from what we know, or have seen) is

Commentary
Motion Blur being overused (from some of the clips it seems that way)
and their approach to the PS Vita version.

besides that, I'm still getting the game because I enjoyed Madden 12....first Madden I've enjoyed in a long time.

Ok, I see what you mean now. Not scripted lines but scripted plays on the field. I agree with you on that! Not sure why they don't show a real NFL game for them to broadcast to. Would probably be a lot easier and have their emotions into it more.

[djordan]

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I'm just saying you guys are making all these assumptions and it's what May? Most years we would never have even seen this much of a Madden game this early into development. I will start to worry if we are still having this discussion in late June/early July after seeing videos of the commentary.

We have in previous years dude...

[roadman]

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We have in previous years dude...

Big huge difference DJ.

We didn't have EA's marketing team label "Monumental" change to the way you play Madden and circle a date on the calendar with a reveal of June 4th.

[jpdavis82]

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I'm completely satisfied with the commentary after hearing the podcast from today. It is a HUGE improvement over last year.

[DeuceDouglas]

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I'm completely satisfied with the commentary after hearing the podcast from today. It is a HUGE improvement over last year.

Is there going to be a place where I can listen to this podcast?

[jpdavis82]

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Here's the Podcast

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