Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

[budsticky]

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I am also pretty sure that having it set to OFF means the pitchers automatically come in warmed up. I play lots of games against my wife and I try to keep it as simple as possible for her as she likes the game but doesn't want to get into all the intricacies of it. So we play with bullpens OFF and after many, many games this way I can see no ill effects from bringing in relievers at any time.

[pistolpete]

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I am also pretty sure that having it set to OFF means the pitchers automatically come in warmed up. I play lots of games against my wife and I try to keep it as simple as possible for her as she likes the game but doesn't want to get into all the intricacies of it. So we play with bullpens OFF and after many, many games this way I can see no ill effects from bringing in relievers at any time.

I have it off and there is nothing that visually indicates they are warm.

[Curahee]

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I have it off and there is nothing that visually indicates they are warm.

Except the description....

[CMH]

So this changes the whole game for me and if in fact, as it is being stated, the pitchers are warm when warm up is set to off, then that needs to be changed or an additional option needs to be added.

My assumption was that with it off, pitchers can warm up to 100% in the pen. With it on, pitchers need the 8 extra pitches to reach 100% (assuming you let them pitch in the pen to warm).

I want to manage my pen but not throw 8 warm up pitches. Kinda disappointed this isn't actually an option in the game.


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[Heroesandvillains]

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So this changes the whole game for me and if in fact, as it is being stated, the pitchers are warm when warm up is set to off, then that needs to be changed or an additional option needs to be added.

My assumption was that with it off, pitchers can warm up to 100% in the pen. With it on, pitchers need the 8 extra pitches to reach 100% (assuming you let them pitch in the pen to warm).

I want to manage my pen but not throw 8 warm up pitches. Kinda disappointed this isn't actually an option in the game.


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With Warm Up ON, you can bypass the 8 warmup pitches by pressing select without penalty I believe (meaning your pitcher will be fully warm).

Doesn't this essentially accomplish what you are asking for?

[Bobhead]

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So this changes the whole game for me and if in fact, as it is being stated, the pitchers are warm when warm up is set to off, then that needs to be changed or an additional option needs to be added.

My assumption was that with it off, pitchers can warm up to 100% in the pen. With it on, pitchers need the 8 extra pitches to reach 100% (assuming you let them pitch in the pen to warm).

I want to manage my pen but not throw 8 warm up pitches. Kinda disappointed this isn't actually an option in the game.


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This is what I'd want also, and it makes no sense to not include it. I get where Curahee is coming from as the description definitely makes it seem like that, but I think if you read between the lines it's assuming the pitcher coming out has already been warming up in the pen. What really makes me think as such is the first sentence.

When ON, your pitcher will not be fully warm when entering the game, and you will have the chance to throw 8 warm up pitches from the mound. When OFF, he will enter the game warmed up and you will not get the chance to throw any pitches.

"Your pitcher will not be fully warm when entering the game..." basically says to me that the entire sentence is referring to a pitcher entering the game after warming up in the bullpen. The sentence suggests that with the option turned on, the bullpen is not enough for a pitcher to become fully warm, no matter how long you warm them up.

The second sentence, and the fact that it references "He...." instead of, say, "all pitchers," suggests to me that the second sentence is referencing the same hypothetical pitcher as the first one, and is thus using the same implication of the pitcher coming from the pen.

And that's my in-depth analysis of 2 sentences. Hopefully this post makes sense, because I'm not sure it does even to myself.

[CMH]

This is what I'd want also, and it makes no sense to not include it. I get where Curahee is coming from as the description definitely makes it seem like that, but I think if you read between the lines it's assuming the pitcher coming out has already been warming up in the pen. What really makes me think as such is the first sentence.



"Your pitcher will not be fully warm when entering the game..." basically says to me that the entire sentence is referring to a pitcher entering the game after warming up in the bullpen. The sentence suggests that with the option turned on, the bullpen is not enough for a pitcher to become fully warm, no matter how long you warm them up.

The second sentence, and the fact that it references "He...." instead of, say, "all pitchers," suggests to me that the second sentence is referencing the same hypothetical pitcher as the first one, and is thus using the same implication of the pitcher coming from the pen.

And that's my in-depth analysis of 2 sentences. Hopefully this post makes sense, because I'm not sure it does even to myself.

Makes sense to me. That's how I've read it. But if someone is reporting pitchers are fully warm without warming up, I dont know how to defend my opinion. I'm simply wrong then.

With Warm Up ON, you can bypass the 8 warmup pitches by pressing select without penalty I believe (meaning your pitcher will be fully warm).

Doesn't this essentially accomplish what you are asking for?

No. There's a penalty. The pitcher won't be 100% warm.


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[Curahee]

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Why are you guys still going around and around with this.

With WP OFF, you can take a pitcher from the bench to the mound and he will be fully warm.... OR if you choose, you can still warm him in the pen, but will not have the opportunity to throw 8 warm ups when you call on him in either instance.
Either method bears no penalty.

With WP ON, you MUST warm the pitcher in the pen before placing him on the mound (or he will not be ready) then you have the option to warm him with 8 pitches on the mound. If you choose not to throw the 8 pitches, but you DID warm him in the pen, there is no penalty in FFing the 8 pitch option.
If you do not warm him in the pen, the 8 pitches will help, but will not fully prepare him to take the mound.

[HustlinOwl]

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Why are you guys still going around and around with this.

With WP OFF, you can take a pitcher from the bench to the mound and he will be fully warm.... OR if you choose, you can still warm him in the pen, but will not have the opportunity to throw 8 warm ups when you call on him in either instance.
Either method bears no penalty.

With WP ON, you MUST warm the pitcher in the pen before placing him on the mound (or he will not be ready) then you have the option to warm him with 8 pitches on the mound. If you choose not to throw the 8 , but you did warm him in the pen, there is no penalty in FFing that option.
If you do not warm him in the pen, the 8 pitches will help, but will not fully prepare him to take the mound.

because we can and there is been no word from developers otherwise

[Curahee]

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because we can and there is been no word from developers otherwise

You sent Russell a message on TSN asking him to clarify, he has yet to do that.
That usually indicates the answer has been presented and he has no intentions of reiterating it.

[CMH]

Why are you guys still going around and around with this.

With WP OFF, you can take a pitcher from the bench to the mound and he will be fully warm.... OR if you choose, you can still warm him in the pen, but will not have the opportunity to throw 8 warm ups when you call on him in either instance.
Either method bears no penalty.

With WP ON, you MUST warm the pitcher in the pen before placing him on the mound (or he will not be ready) then you have the option to warm him with 8 pitches on the mound. If you choose not to throw the 8 pitches, but you DID warm him in the pen, there is no penalty in FFing the 8 pitch option.
If you do not warm him in the pen, the 8 pitches will help, but will not fully prepare him to take the mound.

I believe the topic has turned into: why doesn't it work the way we thought it would.


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[Heroesandvillains]

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I believe the topic has turned into: why doesn't it work the way we thought it would.


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LOL! This is possible.

I was always under the impression that pressing select to bypass the 8 warm ups essentially was an option to automatically make your pitcher full warm.

Meaning, pressing select gives your pitchers the 8 pitches of warmth automatically.

Everything in the coding of this game dictates an even playing field between human and opponent. Including a CPU opponent.

The CPU does not warm up their pitchers. If it were mandatory, we would see them do it. All 8 pitches.

It wouldn't make sense to allow us to bypass them if our pitcher would enter the game cold because of it.

The same goes for the pre-game pitches. I've always believed that pressing select automatically makes your pitcher fully warm.

[Curahee]

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I've always believed that pressing select automatically makes your pitcher fully warm.

This is correct!

[Bobhead]

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Has anyone PMed Russell or WW?

[HustlinOwl]

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Has anyone PMed Russell or WW?

I sent Russell the link to this thread for clarification and nothing