NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM EST

[JSensui]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Don't sweat the gameplay vid, guys. It's way early and I can assure you that clip isn't representative of what you'll see in October. We have lots of interesting stuff to announce on the gameplay front and I know you're going to love the upgrades. You're just going to have to trust us for now.

You mean AFTER we shelled out 60 bucks for it, or are you guys going to actually shows us footage of the final product before you send it out? Because I do recall seeing VERY little actual gameplay for the final version of 2k12 before I actually had the bloody thing in my hands.

[chandlerbang]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Don't sweat the gameplay vid, guys. It's way early and I can assure you that clip isn't representative of what you'll see in October. We have lots of interesting stuff to announce on the gameplay front and I know you're going to love the upgrades. You're just going to have to trust us for now.

Sorry man after 2k12 insights and final product its hard to not be skeptical at this point

[spankdatazz22]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

You mean AFTER we shelled out 60 bucks for it, or are you guys going to actually shows us footage of the final product before you send it out? Because I do recall seeing VERY little actual gameplay for the final version of 2k12 before I actually had the bloody thing in my hands.

*sigh* No one forced you to make an uninformed purchase decision. Maybe you should show some responsibility as a consumer.

Wow at some of these somewhat harsh statements directed at Beluba. REALLY don't get this view that the 2K12 was so much of a disappointment that it merits some of these reactions - not even close. I can understand people being frustrated with something here or there but geez

[JerzeyReign]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Label me a fan boy, I don't care but some of y'all need to pump your brakes! Half of y'all don't even come on OS regularly enough to even talk this nonsense. We're trying to be responsible in this forum and not trying to ruin the direct contact we have with the video game companies like other games have around here.

If you didn't like what you saw, cool, go inside the other game's forum and watch what they have. If you don't like either, don't buy them. But don't talk out the side of your neck and cause them to start viewing our forum as a joke.

On topic: I didn't like what I saw in the video. On the Ginobli drive I felt more contact should happen in the paint, he still had defenders around him. At least have them contend the shot -- and it also looked like it slid right by Harden. That was really hard to note since Harden was user controlled and seemed to put his arms up the moment Ginobli started going by. At the end of the day, I'm not tripping, thanks for giving us something. Now when I come see this thing in Cologne, Germany in August, I hope it'll be a little bit more refined and I'll probably will be less forgiving.

[Colts18]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

REALLY don't get this view that the 2K12 was so much of a disappointment that it merits some of these reactions - not even close. I can understand people being frustrated with something here or there but geez

I am with you there. Maybe they played with the default 2K Insider rosters that made the game seem not up to par but with a great roster set 2K12 is a great game. And I didn't think anything could stop 2K11.

[Drewski]

*sigh* No one forced you to make an uninformed purchase decision. Maybe you should show some responsibility as a consumer.

Wow at some of these somewhat harsh statements directed at Beluba. REALLY don't get this view that the 2K12 was so much of a disappointment that it merits some of these reactions - not even close. I can understand people being frustrated with something here or there but geez

I've been purchasing 2k every year for as long as I can remember, after putting 2k12 on the shelf for good the gameplay itself was very disappointing and left me uneasy about playing the next installment if its in the same engine. Player movement is sluggish and unnatural, it was impossible to play properly when playing man defense. The bump animations were a terrible inclusion and added to the sticky feel of the game. I'll wait till the finished product comes out, but I dont understand why 2k would release this video, and as it stands I don't feel like I will be buying 2k13.

The new scoreboard and stat overlays are nice though.

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[DatGD12guage]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

I guess people forget every year that early builds aren't a direct representation of what we'll see in final gameplay.

I'll play along until October though.

"Oh, no! Beluba. Why does James Harden look the same? And why is this that? That needs to be this!"

eh bruh yall chill with the its too early to judge stuff, something you want might get added if they dont shut up I actually love hearing the early constructive criticism, somebody gotta do it if you wont right? It actually gives ppl like me ideas and some may point out something you never even noticed and mike wang might see the comment and say dam........... lets add that shh right now! plus its better to do it early while its still a work in progress than to see later gameplay and it be to late for them to add it so yeh

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

And this is why 2k is never at E3. You guys bitch and complain about never getting early information on the game, so they release a video 5 months before release, and everyone knee jerks over it.

On the other side of the argument isn't it better to have your fans bitch and moan while you have time to make adjustments? I think guys could be more constructive at times. Overall isn't it better for everybody to be apart of the process. I could see them changing the slam dunk contest play format if enough of us express how strongly we dislike it.

[mango_prom]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Wow, really disappointing. Have been playing 2k since the Dreamcast days and it seems like they don't even try anymore.
I don't care about graphics and animations, they are good enough for me, but it seems like the developers don't even want this game to look like real basketball.

Just take 2k12 out of the box and try to get realistic stats for
CPU vs CPU...won't happen! Some plays are completely broken for the AI. Try Dirk with assigning High Post and PnR...you're lucky if he takes 10 shots in 40 minutes. Once a player goes into that canned post-up animation, there's no fighting for position. Players simply have no situational awareness at all.
A shooter like Ray Allen won't get his touches off screens on any difficulty above Pro because these plays won't work for the AI.
Like the opposite of 2k11, where Durant would take 20 3s a game because double-sceen plays were unstoppable because of non-existant awareness causing players to be stuck in the screen everytime.

And now we get the same bumping animations on defense which means you can essentially run into a defender and the animation gives you a bit more space everytime because of the defender pushed towards the basket?
AI players still not realizing you should lock down the paint with a guard isoation with 5 seconds on the clock?
So we're getting the same game all over again? Unstoppable guards jacking off shots with maybe 10 assists per team with 12 minutes quarters?

I remember form 2k to 2k3 I had the impression these guys really cared about making a great game. The street courts were nicely designed, personal player introductions gave it a real game feel and the gameplay was amazing for the time. So instead of implementing guitar heroes, 2k could focus on gameplay and add that content from the old games which was cut for no apparent reason...

[GJC1213]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

I don't post often but damn, so much complaining and analyzing for a short clip of a game that is likely no where near complete. Every year people get their panties in a bunch and every year there is a quality game released. Sure there are always annoying issues (passing and fastbreaks, 2k12, I'm looking at you) but keep in mind that NBA basketball is a very dynamic game that is not the easiest to recreate.

There are always complaints that 2k shows nothing pre-release and now they surface with a little something MONTHS before they ever have and there are still complaints. We haven't even finished the 2012 Conference Finals yet! Give it time. I for one think it looks promising. ASW does look lame though...

[plyrically]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Foot Planting - Not adressed. Players are still floating and sliding.
Over the head passing - Not adressed. (1:28)
Player models 'Heavy', non-athletic. - Not adressed.
Red Color is still off. So is blue. Nets and overall backboard gfx not adressed.
Manu dribbles the clock 20 seconds, bumps into JH once. twice. Harden denies him, wow, nice. then, with about 4 seconds on the clock, Manu just drives -STRAIGHT DAMN FORWARD- through the whole D. no help, nothing. through Harden. He makes a layup which he didn't even have to adjust. mmm.

"See you guys, gone working on 2k13" - Mike Wang's reaction on Twitter on 2k12 release day. So, I guess, some work, should have been put, over the last half year. Truth is, I can't see it.

And I'm not even started. Been playing since Cwebb on 2k2, I guess I'm too old for that stuff. Sold both my platforms, and not going to buy 2k for the first time in a decade. Meet me in the playground, where basketball players feet don't resemble buns.

[aholbert32]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

You mean AFTER we shelled out 60 bucks for it, or are you guys going to actually shows us footage of the final product before you send it out? Because I do recall seeing VERY little actual gameplay for the final version of 2k12 before I actually had the bloody thing in my hands.

Calm down. I saw plenty of vids before the game came out. There were plenty of vids and screens last september from 2k, da Czar and random people who got the game early. Also if you arent satisfied with the number of videos that came out before release, you can always wait until after release and more vids have been released to buy the game

[aholbert32]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

On the other side of the argument isn't it better to have your fans bitch and moan while you have time to make adjustments? I think guys could be more constructive at times. Overall isn't it better for everybody to be apart of the process. I could see them changing the slam dunk contest play format if enough of us express how strongly we dislike it.

If its not constructive it doesnt matter. The constructive comments get lost in the "Why doesnt James Harden have a mohawk" and "This looks like 2k12" comments. It may be time for another clamp down on the 2k forums.

[VDusen04]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

On the other side of the argument isn't it better to have your fans bitch and moan while you have time to make adjustments? I think guys could be more constructive at times. Overall isn't it better for everybody to be apart of the process. I could see them changing the slam dunk contest play format if enough of us express how strongly we dislike it.

At some point feedback is good but again, criticizing what we saw last night is akin to criticizing the rebuilding of a highway after only one of five lanes is finished. Sure, we could say, "Hey, um, you guys still haven't finished the other five lanes yet" but that probably wouldn't do a lot of good at this point. What we saw last night was still essentially 2K12, so any issues people have are likely already addressed in the Wishlist thread.

The game is going to be done in two months after midway through august they're not going to add or adjust anything

I'm not very knowledgeable on game development. However, I do recall many instances in the past where videos would be released in September and those would be from 2K builds that were multiple months old. Assuming this 2K13 clip wasn't just played up from a version of the game completed on June 3rd, the build we saw could easily be from May or earlier. Considering the game doesn't go gold (submitted for completion) until mid- to late September, I'd say just about everything possible has the potential to be added and adjusted. To assume nothing will change because it's too late in the game is way off base.

Regarding mid-August (as you brought up), I recall changes being made at that point and likely even later. Prior to 2K11's release, even small details were being adjusted right up until the end. For instance, Michael Jordan initially had a deep purple tongue. That was noticed and changed. In 2K12, LaPhonso Ellis' rights were secured in September and he was subsequently added. Further, when the demo for one of the recent 2K's was released (2K11 or 2K12) every layup (even breakaways) bounced off the high glass before going in. That was also acknowledged and adjusted prior to true release. So I feel if small stuff can be altered deep into September, I'm certain big stuff is going to be happening in May.

according to him us fans want "more of the same"
yes i would like another ****ty game that is unplayable online... and offline
good work 2k

That comment is clearly open to interpretation so I can't fault you for taking it the way you took it. However, as someone who lived through ESPN NBA Basketball 2004 (2K's sequel to NBA 2K3) I interpreted that comment as him saying 2K wasn't going to drastically change the direction of their game. Nine years ago, NBA 2K3 was a simulation on the rise, so what'd they do for 2K4? They changed the name and essentially turned it into a dumbed-down streetball contest featuring double pump reverse dunks via Elden Campbelll at a standstill.

So again, to me, "more of the same" means they're going to try to continue making an excellent NBA basketball simulation. I honestly don't think he was trying to say, "Welp, our internet connectivity was pretty much non-existent in 2K12. As such, many of the features we lauded, such as dynamic art updates, YouTube uploads, and Pressbook shares, barely worked or flat out did not function. It sounds like the fans absolutely loved that so we assure you, we plan on more of the same. This year, we plan on making things work even less good. Yes, you heard me right, less good. So keep an eye out for that."

[jersez]

Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM

Label me a fan boy, I don't care but some of y'all need to pump your brakes! Half of y'all don't even come on OS regularly enough to even talk this nonsense. We're trying to be responsible in this forum and not trying to ruin the direct contact we have with the video game companies like other games have around here.

If you didn't like what you saw, cool, go inside the other game's forum and watch what they have. If you don't like either, don't buy them. But don't talk out the side of your neck and cause them to start viewing our forum as a joke.

On topic: I didn't like what I saw in the video. On the Ginobli drive I felt more contact should happen in the paint, he still had defenders around him. At least have them contend the shot -- and it also looked like it slid right by Harden. That was really hard to note since Harden was user controlled and seemed to put his arms up the moment Ginobli started going by. At the end of the day, I'm not tripping, thanks for giving us something. Now when I come see this thing in Cologne, Germany in August, I hope it'll be a little bit more refined and I'll probably will be less forgiving.

I agree, and I was complaining as well, but we should be grateful that they are showing and giving early information, 2k12 info came in the 11th hour, so thank you beluba and the rest of 2k for trying to give us a early look. I see why devs don't want to show early gameplay, because of the irrational hardcore audience. This wasn't for the casual 2k gamers, this was for us here on the forums talking about 2k13 every day. I wouldn't even be upset if 2k with held some info because of the bashing that took place here and other forums.