NCAA Football 13 Demo Roundtable

[DickDalewood]

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Hold on fellas!

One guy hates, one guy likes it, one guy is 50-50 on it? Way to commit to an impression. I love the site and the writing, but this split decision is as good ( and credible) as Pacqiou-Bradley.

Why would three different people, in an opinionated roundtable, all be expected to have a unified decision about how they feel about the demo? Do you even know what a roundtable is? These are three people's impressions, of course they're going to vary

[jtott]

I want t see the Broadcast camera added to this game. I just do not see why this can't be done. The last time that camera angle was in the game ,was back in Ncaa 06....... the last year I truly enjoyed this game.

[vln13]

Playing the game did give me a sense of content with some of the subtle improvements, but who is seriously going to continue playing once Madden ships? Madden is supposed to have the improvements to passing and play action as well as their more revolutionary steps this year.

[JerseySuave4]

Playing the game did give me a sense of content with some of the subtle improvements, but who is seriously going to continue playing once Madden ships? Madden is supposed to have the improvements to passing and play action as well as their more revolutionary steps this year.

I might only because Madden completely lost my buy by only allowing us to control 1 team and on top of that only allowing us to use Donnie's rosters and not allowing us to edit players in CC.

Madden may play great but i lost all interest in buying it after they decided to take away so much control from the user.

[yourfavestoner]

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With the demo, I am having significant trouble reading the defense (with regards to the passing game). Apparently in NCAA 13 motioning a receiver to tell whether the defense is in Man or Zone does not work anymore. Several times I would motion to see if CB would move with my WR but am getting different results than the norm that we are all used to seeing (CB moves with the WR = Man, etc.). Because of this my passing game has been non-existent even though I like what EA has done with rehauling the passing game. Since this strategy is no longer valid, can anyone help me how to read defenses? I am sure that there are lots of gamers who never used motion in the first place who thrive in the passing game and any help and tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Everything you need right here, mate: http://smartfootball.com/passing/att...e-passing-game

In terms of recognizing and attacking video game coverages, you're looking for two things: pre-snap safety alignment (and their post snap rotation) and underneath defender leverage.

What I mean by leverage is: say you're in trips. If lined up in zone, the underneath, inside zone defenders will not split out and line head up over the inside WRs. They will apex and split the difference from the inside WR and the end man on the LOS.

Football history note: your problem is one of the same things that pretty much killed the original iteration of the Run and Shoot.

[DBMcGee3]

I played the demo for about 2 games last night, and it's really nothing to write home about. Didn't have the features list in front of me, but I really couldn't tell much difference in anything other than the playaction and passing trajectories. I also hated the way the camera changes angles when you actually throw the ball. Definitely a non-purchase for me but maybe Madden will be better. It's like the NBA 2k series; the game is good and they make subtle improvements every year, but eventually it just becomes too familiar and you want something fresh and new, possibly even (dare I say) innovative. I was somewhat bored after my first series on offense honestly, and defense has just never been fun to me in these games.

[Bizekidz]

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After playing the demo, I'm not too excited. The gameplay does feel much smoother and realistic to me, but there's not much else to it. It still feels like NCAA Football 12, just a smoother running version of it. Presentation is still too similar and everything else seems bland and boring. I will not be buying this game this year, just going to buy Madden instead. Typically I buy both NCAAF and Madden but this year I don't see the value in doing so. Madden seems like it's going to be a mile ahead of NCAAF this year with all of the new updates it has gotten.

[noplace]

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You guys are the reason ea will never put out a more than par NCAA football game! This game is the exact SAME GAME as last year...with a few tweaks here and there.....I'm not getting sucked in this year like I do every other year....definitely not buying this game...I'll wait on madden...#fml

True, I don’t get why a lot are making this out the be a huge jump from 12'... The updates are very generic and lame without highlights. I understand the feel EA is trying to add but if you're going to do this go all out & don’t half azz it. I mean they didn’t add RTP this year so at least get the things you’ve added correct like updates, commentary, presentation, equipment & graphics. Nothing really shows me they did any of this. They feel they can stick any year after NCAA and we'll buy it. Listening to Bens interviews makes me want to puke because he’s really selling this BS as if they put in a ton of work. Oh well, Madden looks like the way to go & as I said I’ll check NCAA out later in the season if that. I’m not buying it though….lol

[Mos1ted]

To me, the NCAA 13 demo is what the retail version of NCAA 12 should have been, and NCAA 13 should be where NCAA 14 will presumably be. That's what gets about EA Tiburon (and even Visual Concepts in recent years): I don't think either developer is pushing for innovation as aggressively as they did last generation.

I agree with everyone else that the lack of competition this generation has severely held back nearly every sports franchise's potential. It's really making me less interested in sports video games with each passing year.

[DJ]

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The more I play the Demo, the less difference I see between 13 and 12. The intros haven't changed one iota, and the gameplay, by and large, is exactly the same. CPU AI in the demo on offense is real bad, too.

In-game studio updates, a score ticker and a change in recruiting. I have to decide if those are enough to warrant a $45 purchase, or if I just stick with 12 for another year.

[Mos1ted]

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The more I play the Demo, the less difference I see between 13 and 12. The intros haven't changed one iota, and the gameplay, by and large, is exactly the same. CPU AI in the demo on offense is real bad, too.

In-game studio updates, a score ticker and a change in recruiting. I have to decide if those are enough to warrant a $45 purchase, or if I just stick with 12 for another year.

Yeah, the CPU AI is atrocious. I've played through the demo about six times, and I haven't been scored on yet, not even a field goal or safety. I will say it's the one area of the game that has regressed from last year.

[Diggler360]

I don't see how you can think the updates are minor. They sound minor, but completely change the every down gameplay for the better.

-No more super LBs.
-Amazing new pass system.
-Catching feels brand new.
-DB's react more realistic.

Graphics are basically same, but come on. This is the most refined, polished football game in almost 10 years. Madden will be a beta this year fellas from what I'm hearing. I didn't want a brand new game filled with bugs and glitches... I wanted a very good game perfected. If you think getting rid of a terrible, cheesy passing system is a minor improvement. Wow. It to me is a monster, badly needed innovation. The game's animations look amazing and continue to surprise.

It's not reinventing the wheel, it's just perfected it. Beware beta buyers of Madden, you heard it here.

[Playmakers]

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I don't see how you can think the updates are minor. They sound minor, but completely change the every down gameplay for the better.

-No more super LBs.
-Amazing new pass system.
-Catching feels brand new.
-DB's react more realistic.

Graphics are basically same, but come on. This is the most refined, polished football game in almost 10 years. Madden will be a beta this year fellas from what I'm hearing. I didn't want a brand new game filled with bugs and glitches... I wanted a very good game perfected. If you think getting rid of a terrible, cheesy passing system is a minor improvement. Wow. It to me is a monster, badly needed innovation. The game's animations look amazing and continue to surprise.

It's not reinventing the wheel, it's just perfected it. Beware beta buyers of Madden, you heard it here.

Honestly if truth to be told some of those things could actually be fixed in NCAA 12 and should have been fixed in NCAA 12 if EA had just released a patch to do it.

Super leaping LB's only required a fix to the Jumping ratings but EA wanted it to waite for NCAA 13 to make it appear as if this is the 1st time ever you won't see it happening.

DB's Play Recognition and Awareness ratings have always been there for us to modify and make them play the ball more realistic in the air.....

This is something else EA could have fixed with a patch last year but waited til this year in order to get the dough from us again.

Player movement on the field has a lot to do with agility and speed ratings and to be honest if someone truly wanted to get some of the things they will get out of NCAA 13 incorporated into NCAA 12 they could actually pull it off if they are willing to spend time putting in work on their own.

Now of course with the broken tendencies in NCAA 12 you do still have some drawbacks as it appears EA might have fixed that issue in NCAA 13.

I can assure you just based on experience from tweaking their game over the years NCAA 13 is really just the patch we wanted for NCAA 12 we are simply just getting it one year later.

If you don't care about studio updates and a few added WR catch animations can you seriously tell me the two games are that much different?

Now i'll be getting 13 mainly because i only spent most of my time playing in Coach Mode for NCAA 12 (was too lazy to edit last years game) but I'm not expecting something ground breaking and i can understand why some people may not even purchase NCAA 13 at all and just stick with NCAA 12 for another year.

I'm one of EA's biggest fanboy's when it comes to their sports games but i've realized over the years a lot of the stuff they promote as new or improved really isn't new and improved at all we just didn't see it from the previous year. But it was always possible to see the same things like non-super man LB's if we truly wanted to see it or guys not dunking from the FT line (Rocket Dunks).

Look at their NHL Series i stopped playing it because really it's just the same game year after year with minor tweaks to it....

NCAA Football is a game that continues to have minor tweaks to it and some guys just see what they want to see while EA does their brilliant marketing job to promote something that you should have been in their game 4-5 years ago.

I know i sound very negative towards them but if we are true to ourselves this is just really a updated NCAA 12 in so many ways....nothing wrong with that because football doesn't envolve every year in real life either. But at this point and stage of the NCAA series I just feel like gameplay, animations and announcing should be things new and fresh.

Things like Passing Trajectories, Non Super Leaping LB's, Studio Updates, Heisman Players and what ever else they want to promote this year shouldv'e been in the game back in 08, 09, 10, 11 and 12.

[moylan1234]

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Yeah, the CPU AI is atrocious. I've played through the demo about six times, and I haven't been scored on yet, not even a field goal or safety. I will say it's the one area of the game that has regressed from last year.

It's on varsity. I think if it was on AA or heisman you would have been scored upon

[bryanthelion]

I'll still buy it, cause they way it looks, and playing it, feels like a you're in the game. I just think the heisman challenge is overrated, and pointless to me. The game updates, and bottom line is perfect, cause it'll keep me updated, and know if the team is losing so I can come in first in the conference. So this is a must buy!