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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #436
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

    Originally posted by 87Birdman
    But to be fair there are some faulty logic in this. The "complainers" complaining about say 32 team control are justified why?? Because it is confirmed not to be in it? But why do posters feel the need to have 32 team controll? Probably AI logic and so forth, but guess what that is assumption there that it wasn't fixed. So they have bits and pieces and are building arguments off of assumptions just as much as the other side. What if the ratings are perfect, what good is the ability to change ratings then? this goes on and on that no matter the side your on you are going to have to make assumptions to take a stance, because there aren't enough facts out there till the game is actually out.

    So both sides are in the same boat so if being positive is wrong because there are no facts then the other side is in the same boat also.

    LOL...They have the right to complain because IT WAS IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE GAME. 32 team control has been in Madden since the Playstation games. They have the right to complain because they love a feature and EA took away that feature and limited the control. There is no assumption. Its a confirmed feature that was removed

    I dont use 32 team control because of shoddy AI (even though most do). I use 32 team control because I like to run my season as close to the real NFL season as possible. I like the ability to play any game in the season that I want. It has nothing to do with whether AI is fixed or not.

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    • Danimal
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 2198

      #437
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      Originally posted by TreFacTor
      whoa, whoa... were'd that come from...I was agreeing with you on some level and simply pointing out that the majority of the poster in this post haven't knocked the new CC... excuse me if I got under you skin, it was unintentional I assure you.
      Sorry brother that last part wasn't directed at you was kind of a catch all post to several postings. I was just being lazy and quoted your post.
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      • TreFacTor
        MVP
        • Oct 2009
        • 1138

        #438
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by Danimal
        Sorry brother that last part wasn't directed at you was kind of a catch all post to several postings. I was just being lazy and quoted your post.
        No harm, no foul.
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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #439
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
          My answer to that is go ask Steve Noah, Dustin Toms, and MMChris. If they tell you it sucks... believe it. Those are "your Guys"
          I dont know Chris or Dustin at all. Dustin's preview was just that...a preview. It doesn't shed any light on whether the mode actually works or regarding the AI. He knows just as much as the Gamechangers and the public know right now....what EA has told them about the mode.

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #440
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            I can honestly say this........I don't care about the edits. I used the stock rosters in Madden 12 and have only used the EA (Donny) rosters up to today. I have made zero edits or changes either.

            So this does not affect me one bit. Granted I Purchased Madden 05, 10, 12, so I don't have a long Madden track record. I have never made any roster edits in any of the titles.

            NCAA is the only one I download user created rosters.

            Now I understand why people are upset and I think Saint makes a really valid point........"If Donny can make edits, why not us". Logically speaking I see zero difference and zero reason it should not be in the game for us.

            This issue just does not affect me

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            • MrPinkBlackrose
              Rookie
              • Jun 2012
              • 33

              #441
              Would really be bummed if we cant use edited rosters/ created players in CC...sadly I spend hours creating my own old school legends and putting them on their teams before starting my season. Im really hoping its in there before the release.

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              • 87Birdman
                Rookie
                • Jul 2011
                • 473

                #442
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                LOL...They have the right to complain because IT WAS IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE GAME. 32 team control has been in Madden since the Playstation games. They have the right to complain because they love a feature and EA took away that feature and limited the control. There is no assumption. Its a confirmed feature that was removed

                I dont use 32 team control because of shoddy AI (even though most do). I use 32 team control because I like to run my season as close to the real NFL season as possible. I like the ability to play any game in the season that I want. It has nothing to do with whether AI is fixed or not.
                Still doesn't making complaining better, because a feature was taken out. How do you know it isn't pushing this franchise forward?? Maybe they needed to take it out to rework the system to better handle the feature to make it better? If you don't like the new features there is always Madden 12, but saying people looking at it in a positive light is wrong because they aren't complaining is just bad.

                But if you can prove that they took out the features to just take them out than I will resign, but I highly doubt they took them out to make people angry. They are probably trying to move the game forward which has been severely lacking in the past. So if some features don't make it this year in the process so be it as long as in the long run they are making game better I can deal with a year like this where some features are left out to make sure they are implemented correctly with no glitches.

                Because I can bet that if it came out with a glitch there would be non stop complaining, but if they leave it out knowing there are glitches good on them for not pushing a bad feature to appease the masses.

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                • cuttingteeth
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 627

                  #443
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  You know what...here's a solid question:

                  We know that Donny Moore will make the roster edits. Do you think this means we may one day have that "teambuilder" style program opened to us for use...or do they keep it for themselves so Donny keeps his employment?

                  I guess that was a little bit funny, but it's meant to be serious. Think about it.
                  I'm still playing NCAA 14 and Madden 25...and you know, it's alright.

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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #444
                    *Insert drop ball gif here*


                    I'm not surprised at all. It's obvious and was also mentioned in a interview that they want Madden to be a online game like a COD..

                    Now they are forcing it upon us instead of listening to the fans.

                    The game sounds cool with all the stuff added but as far as Im concerned, this game is only playable in a 32 user franchise. (IMO of course)

                    They created CC with online as priority, if it doesn't make sense for online it's not in. They didn't have time because the missing features that are essential to offline wasnt a priority in the first place.

                    It only makes sense.

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                    • wheelman990
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2233

                      #445
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      Originally posted by Yeats
                      This is what I mean be being realistic. The 10% or 15% or whatever of gamers who might care about editing shoes and armbands are going to shrug their shoulders, but will still go out and buy the game. This is not a big issue for most gamers.
                      So this makes it a good decision, because it only makes 15% upset at them? A feature here and a feature there and were up to 90%+ who are missing something important to them. This is exactly why EA gets the flack they do.

                      So I am really interested to know why you think this was a good move, and seam to be defending it? Please explain how removing all editing + more was a good idea for them. Simply because you don't use the Editing players feature?

                      And this is way beyond shoes and arm bands. Stats, Jersey number, name for rookies, position and more man(not to mention people custom rosters for accurate and different style of play!
                      Last edited by wheelman990; 06-12-2012, 01:44 PM.

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                      • themassacre771.1
                        Rookie
                        • May 2011
                        • 331

                        #446
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        I can honestly say this........I don't care about the edits. I used the stock rosters in Madden 12 and have only used the EA (Donny) rosters up to today. I have made zero edits or changes either.

                        So this does not affect me one bit. Granted I Purchased Madden 05, 10, 12, so I don't have a long Madden track record. I have never made any roster edits in any of the titles.

                        NCAA is the only one I download user created rosters.

                        Now I understand why people are upset and I think Saint makes a really valid point........"If Donny can make edits, why not us". Logically speaking I see zero difference and zero reason it should not be in the game for us.

                        This issue just does not affect me
                        I can see that with ratings, but throughout a franchise have you never needed to change a number, change someones position, or edit their equipment?

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #447
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                          Originally posted by 87Birdman
                          Still doesn't making complaining better, because a feature was taken out. How do you know it isn't pushing this franchise forward?? Maybe they needed to take it out to rework the system to better handle the feature to make it better? If you don't like the new features there is always Madden 12, but saying people looking at it in a positive light is wrong because they aren't complaining is just bad.

                          But if you can prove that they took out the features to just take them out than I will resign, but I highly doubt they took them out to make people angry. They are probably trying to move the game forward which has been severely lacking in the past. So if some features don't make it this year in the process so be it as long as in the long run they are making game better I can deal with a year like this where some features are left out to make sure they are implemented correctly with no glitches.

                          Because I can bet that if it came out with a glitch there would be non stop complaining, but if they leave it out knowing there are glitches good on them for not pushing a bad feature to appease the masses.
                          Huh? If I dont complain, how will EA know im unhappy about the removal of a feature?

                          I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back right now....A few years ago NBA2k did not have 30 team control. Only had 8 team. I hated that. So what did I do? I posted a complaint thread about it in the 2k forum. One of the devs saw it, discovered why it was an issue, said they would add it and the next version of the game had 30 team control.

                          Thats the one of the points of this forum. It gives people the opportunity to express their opinion about ways to improve the game or mistakes a developer made.

                          Again, I'm using confirmed facts and you are using assumptions. You are assuming they removed the features to make the game better. You are assuming that the they will eventually add these features back. You are assuming that these features will cause a glitch if added back in.

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                          • Phobia
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11623

                            #448
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                            Originally posted by themassacre771.1
                            I can see that with ratings, but throughout a franchise have you never needed to change a number, change someones position, or edit their equipment?
                            Nope, I don't really care to be honest about who wears what numbers or equipment.

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                            • SA1NT401
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3498

                              #449
                              I'm still really trying to understand what's so innovative about CCM since its been done to a point in sports games before with actually more flexibility than CCM now.

                              I think " innovation" is really a poor choice of words. NEW is much more of a description. And nothing more than that.

                              Smh




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                              Last edited by SA1NT401; 06-12-2012, 01:51 PM.

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                              • Super Glock
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 776

                                #450
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Originally posted by 87Birdman
                                Still doesn't making complaining better, because a feature was taken out. How do you know it isn't pushing this franchise forward?? Maybe they needed to take it out to rework the system to better handle the feature to make it better? If you don't like the new features there is always Madden 12, but saying people looking at it in a positive light is wrong because they aren't complaining is just bad.

                                But if you can prove that they took out the features to just take them out than I will resign, but I highly doubt they took them out to make people angry. They are probably trying to move the game forward which has been severely lacking in the past. So if some features don't make it this year in the process so be it as long as in the long run they are making game better I can deal with a year like this where some features are left out to make sure they are implemented correctly with no glitches.

                                Because I can bet that if it came out with a glitch there would be non stop complaining, but if they leave it out knowing there are glitches good on them for not pushing a bad feature to appease the masses.
                                Very well said Birdman, I'm sure there is a legit reason they removed it. And people can just go back to Madden 12. And to be honest I have found Donny Moore's edits to be better than anyone's on this site. I'm sure edits will be back for 14.

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