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Old 06-12-2012, 03:00 PM   #460
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

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Originally Posted by Danimal
This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games.

Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new.

CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO.

I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.
I can see your point, but it doesn't really apply to the issue at hand for many of us. I've already addressed this line of thinking in the other edit player thread (and that was before we knew we couldn't even carry in custom rosters to CC), but let me explain again.

I KNOW how I like to play franchise mode and what basic features I need. You know how? Because I am able to play it that way in every sports game I play, and have been able to for some time. I KNOW CC won't deliver what I want. You know how? EA has already told me they've taken away features that I find essential.

For those of us who find these features so important, this isn't an issue of game play improvements or added features that you have to get a feel for first. This is about features that were available and now aren't. Regardless of what was added, no amount of me playing around with the new mode is going to make these features magically reappear. That's not "absurd logic," it's common sense.

I'm not even going to consider buy Madden 13 without at least minimal editing (numbers, equipment) and custom roster use in CCM. In actuality, I expect a lot more than that (especially given what's available in the comparative field of the sports gaming genre), but I think that's a fair minimum standard. That's not a statement of spite or anger or protest, just a point of fact.

The point is that this isn't an either or proposition. People aren't upset that EA is trying something new or attempting something innovative (In fact, I've personally applauded them for there ideas...I've just questioned their implementation/decision making). People are upset that EA has stripped so much of the control and customization in order to implement it. Plenty of games make progress without stripping away so much. Sadly, Madden just hasn't figured that part out yet, it seems.

Adding features at the expense of others isn't progress, it's change. Some people are fine with or even excited for the changes. That's fine (and hopefully 13 delivers for them!). Others don't like the changes because of what they lost as a result. That should be fine too. It's as simple as pros and cons.

By the way, this isn't me complaining some more or trying to belabor the point. I've said my piece, lodged my complaints, used the various means to make my preferences and concerns heard (i.e. the game changers site, EA customer service, etc) and all that. I'm simply responding because it's frustrating to see the same mischaracterization of the point simply because others disagree, aren't affected, or don't see it.

EDIT: Yikes, another book. Sorry for the length people!

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