Madden NFL 13 CCM Will Not Allow You to Play Other Games on the Schedule, Only Yours

[DeuceDouglas]

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Connected Careers is sounding more like a RPG and arcade as more info comes out. I'm all for a revamped progression system, but why go almost total RPG? Just progress guys they way they did on last gen with tweaks.

The arcade factor is that you have to create a coach or player and cannot control the front office staff moves. If you get fired, you either have to get hired someplace else, or "game over".

If I am off base here please let me know but from things I have read that's the summary of Connected Careers.

You don't have to create a coach or player. You can take over an existing coach and have total control over front office moves. You also have the ability to turn coach firings off or if you are fired, simply take over for the next coach of your team if you want to play 30 years with the same team.

[lgxjames]

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not something i care about but i could understand if this upsets people

[moneal2001]

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actually herky you can recreate your coach and take your team back over or take control of their new one or even turn off firing. and you can set progression to auto and it will be more like last gen than the way it is in 12

[The Duke]

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you missed the point, they'll add them next year and tout them as new... thats the joke he was making. I have no doubt these features will be in next year after the response taking them out has gotten but it would be totally EA if they tried to tout them off as new features.

i got the joke, champ. my point was, i dont care what they do with marketing as long as the features are back in.

[cuttingteeth]

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@Strawhat have any of those had a franchise mode as stale as madden's? have any of those completely rebuilt their franchise, superstar, and online modes? i don't like them taking the features and haven't decided if im gonna get it yet, but i understand their logic of getting a working mode into the game with features that work for offline and online before adding ones specific to either.

the foundation is now there to add those features back and even add new ones easier than before. its easier and more efficient to keep up one code base than three.

See, the last part of what you said is where everyone has to logically call BS, though. It surely IS easier to code one base instead of three...but then they should logically have triple the time to get things done. They're excuse is that they ran out of time, though. Those kinds of contradictions have been mounting since last week.

[Herky]

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I don't know why people are hating on ccm? It has a lot of great things in it and looks really good. The issue is what got taken out. That is what we should be focused on. Not bashing the potential career mode we have been wanting for the last 4 years.

I think it's because Looman said that "franchise was dead" on Twitter hints that this CC system IS franchise now, along with created superstar and online play.

I think it's a terrible idea to ball everything together.

[crenk]

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I don't know why people are hating on ccm? It has a lot of great things in it and looks really good. The issue is what got taken out. That is what we should be focused on. Not bashing the potential career mode we have been wanting for the last 4 years.

I totally agree CC is not the problem. The fact that CC is replacing the mode that in my opinion WAS madden is the issue. I have never played superstar....just don't get it, don't like it, but also have never complained about it, b/c my mode was always there to play.

[Herky]

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actually herky you can recreate your coach and take your team back over or take control of their new one or even turn off firing. and you can set progression to auto and it will be more like last gen than the way it is in 12

So if I take the Vikings, I can create Leslie Frazier and if I don't win games, I have to create another coach to take his place?

That isn't terrible I suppose, but I liked being able to build a staff from real life coaches. Loved being able to hire a HC, OC, DC, and ST.

What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

[roadman]

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What I don't get is why didn't they do this a long time ago?

Why not just have ONE franchise and a toggle/menu for if you want to take it online or not long before now? Why hasn't online franchise just be a mirror image of offline - just...online? Why didn't they work on a revamp before now? Why wasn't M10 the revamp? Or M09, or whichever was the first one for the PS3?

I don't know - it just like a lot of things don't make sense.

Well, I don't know how close I am with this, but Josh worked on HC09 with Donny Moore. He came back to Madden 10 later in the process. There wasn't an upgrade with offline franchise in Madden 11. Madden 12, there were some features added to franchise mode, while him and his staff were in the process of developing CC while 12 was being manufactured. He said he's been thinking of CC for the last 4 yrs and it was approved a few years ago.

That could be it, but I'm not privy to any of the above, just speculation.

[themassacre771.1]

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I think it's because Looman said that "franchise was dead" on Twitter hints that this CC system IS franchise now, along with created superstar and online play.

I think it's a terrible idea to ball everything together.

Ah, got you. Yeah, he doesn't know how to communicate effectively and says things that make people angry (little things).

[Aftershock9958]

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What I don't get is why didn't they do this a long time ago?

Why not just have ONE franchise and a toggle/menu for if you want to take it online or not long before now? Why hasn't online franchise just be a mirror image of offline - just...online? Why didn't they work on a revamp before now? Why wasn't M10 the revamp? Or M09, or whichever was the first one for the PS3?

I don't know - it just like a lot of things don't make sense.

I don't really follow other collections or sports games as in depth as I do Madden so maybe this is just the way it is in the video game dev world, but it seems to me like there's been a lot of turnover in the development crew with this game, so the easy answer (to me anyway) could be that the teams prior to the current one just didn't have the focus or vision that there appears to be now.

[DeuceDouglas]

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So if I take the Vikings, I can create Leslie Frazier and if I don't win games, I have to create another coach to take his place?

That isn't terrible I suppose, but I liked being able to build a staff from real life coaches. Loved being able to hire a HC, OC, DC, and ST.

What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

You don't create him, you just play basically as him. And if you get fired, which you have the ability to turn off, you can take control of the next coach of the Vikings. I don't believe there is any more OC, DC, ST, etc. but those really didn't change anything before anyway. And you still have complete freedom over signing, trading, cutting, and drafting as you had in M12.

[roadman]

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What's the deal on cutting players and signing free agents? Am I still free to do that?

Yes, you are able to do all the front office moves during the season and off-season.

[GiantBlue76]

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Madden 13 seems to be like an inside joke, because I consider myself smart, and I don't get the punchline. I mean how can you not make sure Madden 13 had at least what Madden 12 had? This early backlash is once again at the feet of EA. Lack of communicating to your consumer base. How well did head coach sell, and if it were so great why did it take so long to make a sequel?

They've been doing this with every Madden this generation. There are still elements from Madden 05 that are not in these versions of Madden. It's not anything new.

[DirkJesusNowitzki]

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Madden 13...now featuring:

No full customization of rosters.
No Editing of players in CCM
No Import Draft Classes
No 32 team control
No Fantasy Draft
No offline co-op play
No custom playbooks
No playing games except those of the ONE team you select for CCM

....I wish I had the gif of Bart Scott saying, "CAN'T WAIT."

1. As CCM's roster should be viewed as an online roster, I'm good with that.
2. Same as above.
3. Same as above.
4. Doesn't affect me.
5. See #1-4.
6. In past years this would suck *** bad. But I don't have roommates anymore, no little brothers living with me, we play online now. So IDGAF about that being taken out.
7. Good, less cheese. I was perfectly ok with no custom books in online franchise/communities in M12.
8. Again, IDGAF. I am sure some will miss this ability.

Personally, even if I gave a crap about any of that stuff, personally I would look at what we're getting in return before griping. After a few years of being told that online franchise is just not a popular enough mode for them to spend time on, I am ecstatic that they have added so much. And really, the same logic applies to the stuff they took out. Only a tiny minority would care.

Maybe they can add in via patch or before the game ships, an ability to do most of that stuff for OFFLINE CC's only. But, can you make an offline CC an online one at a later date? If so, then I am ok with them leaving everything out. I can understand a lot of those omissions to prevent BS in online CC's, but offline ones you would probably be ok.

But maybe there are balance issues, too. If some of the challenges for XP revolve around leading the league in certain categories, why should you be able to control your competition? If you edit a bunch of ratings, maybe it messes up XP. And I can't imagine them having imported NCAA rosters that aren't all goofy ratings wise. Furthermore building so much stuff into the CC mode like scouting, stories, etc and making it so dynamic, makes stuff like that impossible.

tl;dr - full featured online leagues > all that stuff