Operation Sports Full Minors 2012 Roster - Opening Day Edition Available Now

[MikeJ2021]

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Found a little something Ridin,

Tommy Mendonca appears twice in Texas Roster ( as Catcher and 3B)

If you use the Opening Day rosters you can export 2B Rougned Odor and import him in the Catcher Mendoca's place. Odor currently plays for Texas in Single A as a 2B.

[franch1se]

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one more thing, seems like Padres #1 prospect Rymer Liriano has been taken out of this new set, as has Austin Hedges. Didn't see them in the FA pool, I'll import them back in.

[seanjeezy]

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one more thing, seems like Padres #1 prospect Rymer Liriano has been taken out of this new set, as has Austin Hedges. Didn't see them in the FA pool, I'll import them back in.

Yikes, that's a pretty significant change. I'm all for having accurate AAA and AA rosters, but not if it means removing an organization's top prospects for some scrubs who at best might only get a cup of coffee.

Edit:

Cody Buckel is missing...

Jason Esposito, Nick Delmonico, Jose Campos, Ryan Brett, Yordano Ventura, etc. are all well regarded prospects and are missing...

I know it's impossible to get every player in, but using the Orioles as an example, Zach Booker (???) was included even though he hasn't even played this year and has a combined total of 6 games played since 2009... That's just odd to me. Speaking of Baltimore, Rich Rundles has never played for a Baltimore affiliate and he was put in the Class-A roster - Maybe replace Rundles and Booker with Esposito and Delmonico?

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Yikes, that's a pretty significant change. I'm all for having accurate AAA and AA rosters, but not if it means removing an organization's top prospects for some scrubs who at best might only get a cup of coffee.

Edit:

Cody Buckel is missing...

Jason Esposito, Nick Delmonico, Jose Campos, Ryan Brett, Yordano Ventura, etc. are all well regarded prospects and are missing...

I know it's impossible to get every player in, but using the Orioles as an example, Zach Booker (???) was included even though he hasn't even played this year and has a combined total of 6 games played since 2009... That's just odd to me. Speaking of Baltimore, Rich Rundles has never played for a Baltimore affiliate and he was put in the Class-A roster - Maybe replace Rundles and Booker with Esposito and Delmonico?

LOL...the purpose of these releases is as accurate as possible AAA and AA......not Top prospects in lower levels...sometimes when replacing a player its not just the potential that comes in play(example you need 2 catchers at each level otherwise I would replace most of the crappy D and F rated catchers with top prospects but that would in effect "break" the game)..but what do I know I only put hundreds of hours into this set .....use the set or dont...no ones forcing anyones hand...As a matter of fact I dont like alot of the variation sets out there...the pitch edits etc..BUT...I dont say a word..to each his own.....

PS Rundles is a guy with ML service time who was signed to play in AAA within the last 10 days ..hence he is in this set.

Thanks for your time

[scotlandforever7]

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I am well aware of how dumb this sounds, but I have to ask...how do I download the roster?

[seanjeezy]

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LOL...the purpose of these releases is as accurate as possible AAA and AA......not Top prospects in lower levels...sometimes when replacing a player its not just the potential that comes in play(example you need 2 catchers at each level otherwise I would replace most of the crappy D and F rated catchers with top prospects but that would in effect "break" the game)..but what do I know I only put hundreds of hours into this set .....use the set or dont...no ones forcing anyones hand...As a matter of fact I dont like alot of the variation sets out there...the pitch edits etc..BUT...I dont say a word..to each his own.....

PS Rundles is a guy with ML service time who was signed to play in AAA within the last 10 days ..hence he is in this set.

Thanks for your time

Then why not replace Matt Hobgood? Hasn't made it out of A Ball and is out for the year, perfect candidate for replacement.

I don't see how the "break the game" argument is even valid, since you aren't adding top prospects, your replacing them with AAA scrubs. Only Rymer Liriano had an A potential and deservedly so, he's a top 100 prospect. Donavan Tate would have been a better choice: Lower level, lower ceiling, older, etc.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that, so I'll leave it at that, but to say you don't like the pitch edits when one of the main complaints about the game is the lack of realistic repertoires is a head scratcher lol, especially since the Andy Pettitte and Jamie Moyer you used have my pitch edits

[sfgiants28]

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Downloaded the rosters earlier today. Thanks for all the work you guys put into them.

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Then why not replace Matt Hobgood? Hasn't made it out of A Ball and is out for the year, perfect candidate for replacement.

I don't see how the "break the game" argument is even valid, since you aren't adding top prospects, your replacing them with AAA scrubs. Only Rymer Liriano had an A potential and deservedly so, he's a top 100 prospect. Donavan Tate would have been a better choice: Lower level, lower ceiling, older, etc.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that, so I'll leave it at that, but to say you don't like the pitch edits when one of the main complaints about the game is the lack of realistic repertoires is a head scratcher lol, especially since the Andy Pettitte and Jamie Moyer you used have my pitch edits

Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.

[Metsfan31]

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Anyone have a link? My network is down.

[Hootiefish]

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Guys stop fighting. You're scaring me.

[crques]

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Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.

Ridin, just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your rosters and I'm not a fan of pitch edits across the board either. Therefore, the next time you want to do an update and upload it to the vault, think of it as being for those that appreciate your work. It is easy to pick at the minor league rosters whenever you are a fan of a specific team and see a player or two in question for that organization. However, thinking of these edits as a whole and realizing just how much work goes into this for every team, not just one, you should gain a whole new appreciation for the work that has been put into them.

[seanjeezy]

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Its all a matter of opinion....

Pitch edits across the board arent my thing...but hey since you know everything I will leave the roster updates from now on in your hands "Oh great one"..since obviously you are the roster "guru"....I love this place and most of the people here but the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of appreciation some have for the countless hours and hours of work that some people do on these sets...some people just wanna rip others work...if you want I can do a suggestive review of the pitch edits roster but you wouldnt like it im sure..so I wont...you can now carry on with how great you feel the game is because your sliders " slide" 1/4 more across the TV screens in America than the ones in the update I put out.....carry on.

Seriously? Where am I "ripping" you? Just because I don't use those stupid smiley face things you think I'm slamming your work? I even offered possible replacement candidates that are a better fit, but I guess that isn't good enough.

Please, review the pitch edits set, I encourage it. How am I supposed to make it better if I don't know what needs to be fixed? There is a reason why we post our stuff here, community feedback is a big deal to me.

Really though, do you think I pulled all of the pitch data out of my a** or something? Or maybe you think pitch f/x isn't a valid system, I don't know, but how can you dispute something that is backed by statistical data? If the data exists, why not utilize it? Pitch f/x says the average fastball/changeup separation is around 6 MPH and the average slider breaks around 4.5 inches. Do you know what it was in OSFM? 10.46 MPH and 8 inches, not realistic in the slightest. Do you know how many players these global edits affected? 262/1210, all minor leaguers. The other 948 players had pitch f/x data available, no subjectivity involved, just hard facts. But by all means share your opinion, I would love to hear it since I am open to taking suggestions.

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Seriously? Where am I "ripping" you? Just because I don't use those stupid smiley face things you think I'm slamming your work? I even offered possible replacement candidates that are a better fit, but I guess that isn't good enough.

Please, review the pitch edits set, I encourage it. How am I supposed to make it better if I don't know what needs to be fixed? There is a reason why we post our stuff here, community feedback is a big deal to me.

Really though, do you think I pulled all of the pitch data out of my a** or something? Or maybe you think pitch f/x isn't a valid system, I don't know, but how can you dispute something that is backed by statistical data? If the data exists, why not utilize it? Pitch f/x says the average fastball/changeup separation is around 6 MPH and the average slider breaks around 4.5 inches. Do you know what it was in OSFM? 10.46 MPH and 8 inches, not realistic in the slightest. Do you know how many players these global edits affected? 262/1210, all minor leaguers. The other 948 players had pitch f/x data available, no subjectivity involved, just hard facts. But by all means share your opinion, I would love to hear it since I am open to taking suggestions.

Dude since we were putting the original OSFM set together this year you have had complaints and criticisms of work done by many, as you said it "bothers" you Well your criticisms of others work on a consistent basis "bothers" me....if you dont like the work or the sets please dont use them....Im done now...thats my pitch fx statistical data for the night...Im out.

[Side Effect]

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I like your 1.5 rosters Ridin. I'm not really interested in the pitch edits either. I'm working off your May 9 update roster and applying V2 cosmetics edits and making an optimal, no injuries or DL roster.

[UDBlueHen]

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Hey Ridin i used your 6-11 roster to update starting pitchers first 6 like stamina etc. no pitch type edits or pitches changed. also i updated top 7 to 8 players or more everything started to blur while doing ALL teams Edits from the new roster update from mlb show from monday. and exported some rookies and players also to give realism. Thanks so much for your hard work. its the least i could do. again THANK YOU AND ALL WHO HELPED YOU. Roster Name: OSFM 6-11 Ridindwnkingsl Description: Pitch Edits/Player Edits. Thank you for your hard work again the least i could do to help you out.