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  • gjneff
    Rookie
    • May 2010
    • 194

    #181
    Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

    Originally posted by Phobia
    It goes both ways, you can't appeal to everyone on everything. I have purchased 3 Maddens in my life. This is a year I feel like they listened for people like myself, the gameplay being addressed.

    I also understand some of you don't believe its been changed for the better. But you are also the same people that have not played it yet, just like I haven't.

    Basically my point is when you liked what you had and I was complaining the on field sucked.....people would say "its just a game enjoy it". Then they fix on field stuff (it appears) and I like what i see but features have been removed so those people who liked it before are now the ones complaining.
    CC has nothing to do with game play improvements. I'm happy to see those. They didn't need to leave out basic functions to give better game play.

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    • speedy9386
      Pro
      • Mar 2009
      • 828

      #182
      Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

      Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
      Woah what? Sounds like I'm not understanding this fixture thing, I haven't played a Madden in a long time.

      What I think is pathetic is that people complain about the gameplay for Madden for such a long time, then this year they finally make some huge strides with the gameplay including real physics, which if done right has the potenial to be a game changer. Then because of a lack of some failry minor things decide they won't buy the game at all.
      What may be fairly minor to you may not be to someone else. Despite the fact that I can't play offline franchise with my friends I am VERY excited for this game.

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      • moylan1234
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 3946

        #183
        Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

        Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
        Woah what? Sounds like I'm not understanding this fixture thing, I haven't played a Madden in a long time.

        What I think is pathetic is that people complain about the gameplay for Madden for such a long time, then this year they finally make some huge strides with the gameplay including real physics, which if done right has the potenial to be a game changer. Then because of a lack of some failry minor things decide they won't buy the game at all.
        I'm not sure what you mean by fixture. But I don't think many people are really complaining about the gameplay stuff is more the off field control aspects over your roster and how you play franchise or CC. They've removed a lot of basic stuff that isn't minor at all to some people like said family that won't be able to play a career with each other on one console anymore

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        • moneal2001
          Pro
          • Jul 2003
          • 835

          #184
          Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

          Originally posted by wheelman990
          I do like the idea of something fresh and new, and ccm might be awesome. The only thing I wish EA would have done is keep the old franchise mode, or even just a season mode with all old options(editing) as a option too. Then once they get those features back in ccm, get rid of season unless people are still asking for it(at that point, they prob wouldn't care cause all their features are present).

          I was excited about Madden 13. This editing thing really bumped me back to a used or thanksgiving sale ($29.99) type buy.
          if the game was made for the ps3 only that might have been an option. but not being able to use blu-ray for xbox makes that pretty much impossible. the disc space just isnt there.

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          • MattyEdgeworth
            Pro
            • Oct 2011
            • 570

            #185
            Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

            Originally posted by moylan
            I'm not sure what you mean by fixture. But I don't think many people are really complaining about the gameplay stuff is more the off field control aspects over your roster and how you play franchise or CC. They've removed a lot of basic stuff that isn't minor at all to some people like said family that won't be able to play a career with each other on one console anymore
            I mean the ability to play other games of the schedule, we call it a fixture here. I'm clearly misunderstanding this part of it, what exactly is it?


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            • Phobia
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2008
              • 11623

              #186
              Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

              Originally posted by wheelman990
              I do like the idea of something fresh and new, and ccm might be awesome. The only thing I wish EA would have done is keep the old franchise mode, or even just a season mode with all old options(editing) as a option too. Then once they get those features back in ccm, get rid of season unless people are still asking for it(at that point, they prob wouldn't care cause all their features are present).

              I was excited about Madden 13. This editing thing really bumped me back to a used or thanksgiving sale ($29.99) type buy.
              150% agree Wheel. I said this yesterday it should of been held back till it was 100% working like it should. But that didn't happen is my point I guess

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              • StanleyStutters
                Rookie
                • Jun 2012
                • 321

                #187
                Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
                I don't really care at all, no player editing is a bit **** but hasn't turned me away. Why does it matter that much that you don't get to play other fixtures?

                I think its just stupid that people would decide to not buy the game because of this, I would even call it pathetic.
                Everyone is different and everyone will rate features differently. I think calling people "stupid" and "pathetic" for deciding not to buy a video game that has taken away their favorite features is unfair. Also it's not just the player editing we have lost a lot of features. Personally, I am most upset about the loss of couch co-op and multiple team control in CC.

                This pretty much ruins the game for people who share consoles and run franchises together. Couch co-op in Franchise mode is something I have loved using for the last 10+ years and I have no idea why it's gone. When I played Franchise mode on my own I'd get a few years in and get bored, but when I was playing Franchise mode locally we'd get several years into a Franchise. For me it's much more enjoyable to play locally with friends than it is to play alone or online, but that's just my opinion.

                I still haven't decided what I'll do in August. Right now I'd say there is a good chance I'll pick up Madden 13 because some of the new features look enjoyable, but if continue to hear about more and more features being removed I could change my mind.

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                • moylan1234
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 3946

                  #188
                  Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                  Originally posted by MattyEdgeworth
                  I mean the ability to play other games of the schedule, we call it a fixture here. I'm clearly misunderstanding this part of it, what exactly is it?
                  you can only play as the team or player you choose when you start the CC
                  http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nly-yours.html

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                  • MattyEdgeworth
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 570

                    #189
                    Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                    Originally posted by StanleyStutters
                    Everyone is different and everyone will rate features differently. I think calling people "stupid" and "pathetic" for deciding not to buy a video game that has taken away their favorite features is unfair. Also it's not just the player editing we have lost a lot of features. Personally, I am most upset about the loss of couch co-op and multiple team control in CC.

                    This pretty much ruins the game for people who share consoles and run franchises together. Couch co-op in Franchise mode is something I have loved using for the last 10+ years and I have no idea why it's gone. When I played Franchise mode on my own I'd get a few years in and get bored, but when I was playing Franchise mode locally we'd get several years into a Franchise. For me it's much more enjoyable to play locally with friends than it is to play alone or online, but that's just my opinion.

                    I still haven't decided what I'll do in August. Right now I'd say there is a good chance I'll pick up Madden 13 because some of the new features look enjoyable, but if continue to hear about more and more features being removed I could change my mind.
                    Yeah this is fair enough, I clearly misunderstand what this was. Like I said I haven't played Madden in a long time and living in Northern Ireland doesn't exaclty have anyone do co-op with, so that's why I didn't really understand.


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                    • MattyEdgeworth
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 570

                      #190
                      Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                      Originally posted by moylan
                      you can only play as the team or player you choose when you start the CC
                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...nly-yours.html
                      Yeah I was right, but what I didn't understand was that this meant you could play co-op with people or whatever.


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                      • Drix10
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 71

                        #191
                        I'm certainly not happy about the news. It's more about how I handle incoming rookies from future drafts. I liked the fact I can edit names, jersey numbers, and schools to add character to teams and players. With no NCAA draft classes, the inability to edit is even more disabling as a player. I use the edit function to edit ratings too, if I feel like a player that was drafted is too high ... or too low.
                        I am very curious about how they are going to approach the draft with this limitation. I suppose they will have generic names and looks about them and the league will be populated with clones after about 7 years in the franchise.
                        I love the customization ability of my players in NCAA. I'll hours just editing freshman and molding a "team".

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                        • SoxFan01605
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7982

                          #192
                          Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                          Originally posted by MMChrisS
                          Has the 'closed' nature of Connected Careers turned you away and/or cooled your enthusiasm about Madden NFL 13?
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                          • Reed1417
                            MVP
                            • May 2012
                            • 6121

                            #193
                            as upset as i am it has only cooled me down a bit. i cant play 12 anymore it's just frustrating as all hell so i'm still going to get 13 and see how all this works out. it had better be good though that's all i'm going to say.
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                            • CT Pitbull
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1683

                              #194
                              Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                              it doesnt turn me totally away but it does suck...i just hope the powers that be are reading and listening to this board and fix this for next year if not give us some options back this year via patch ... i hope they are not that dense or arrogant that they are not going to give us these options back in future titles because if that is the case...i WILL be totally turned OFF from this games future releases
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                              • gjneff
                                Rookie
                                • May 2010
                                • 194

                                #195
                                Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                                Originally posted by Phobia
                                See I just can't wrap my head around this. You are welcome to feel the way you do. Trust me I sincerely feel that way, but to me this is just minor.

                                The MAJOR part of the game for me is the PLAYING part. Calling plays, moving my players around, making tackles, scoring TDs, sacks, etc. If that is improved I can live without the editing for a year or so
                                That's great that it won't matter to you, but why minimize it's importants to me? How my players look on the field is part of game play to me, and position changes is a most basic part of football.

                                As far as game play goes, the part I'm most curious about is if the CPU is smarter than they have been in the past. Do they utilize their weapons? If they have a stud receiver do they try to get him the ball all game. Vice versa, if I have a stud, do they focus their defense on him? If I run a slant all day will adjust to try and stop it? These are the real game play issues to me, even more than physics.

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