What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

[TajDeni]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

at the end of the day everything will boil down to 1 simple question that will either give folks hope 4 the future or just piss people off even more and thats: Does what was implimented in CCM fully work as advertised.

alot of ppl are not getting all this info that we are discussing and i personally believe when they 1st discover some of these ommissions they will experience personally the same frustration a lof of folks here have experience. but if the mode delivers what EA has promised it will deliver than ppl will eventually move past their frustrations and lose themselves within the experience laid out for them.

but if CCM fails to deliver in a major way on the promises EA has made, coupled with the removed features, I personally believe the fall out will have major ramifications heading into the next generation of consoles. even tho i do believe M13 will sell very well.

so again it really all boils down to: does CCM truly work as advertised..and in the truth of this answer i believe we will know all we need to know moving forward.

based on what i currently know as of this moment, personally ima hold of 4 a month or so to see which way the wind will blow. if all is on the up in up, dispite being very displeased about some of the features that are being left out, ill jump on board and pick the game up. sure im not the only 1 with this gameplan.

[TreFacTor]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

at the end of the day everything will boil down to 1 simple question that will either give folks hope 4 the future or just piss people off even more and thats: Does what was implimented in CCM fully work as advertised.

alot of ppl are not getting all this info that we are discussing and i personally believe when they 1st discover some of these ommissions they will experience personally the same frustration a lof of folks here have experience. but if the mode delivers what EA has promised it will deliver than ppl will eventually move past their frustrations and lose themselves within the experience laid out for them.

but if CCM fails to deliver in a major way on the promises EA has made, coupled with the removed features, I personally believe the fall out will have major ramifications heading into the next generation of consoles. even tho i do believe M13 will sell very well.

so again it really all boils down to: does CCM truly work as advertised..and in the truth of this answer i believe we will know all we need to know moving forward.

based on what i currently know as of this moment, personally ima hold of 4 a month or so to see which way the wind will blow. if all is on the up in up, dispite being very displeased about some of the features that are being left out, ill jump on board and pick the game up. sure im not the only 1 with this gameplan.

Not the case, the people that will miss the options of offline franchise will absolutely hate not being able to do the things they've grown accustomed to doing. It's similar to adding the strat pad, they had to change it because a large part of the community felt it was restrictive. This is no different other than it's a lot more work than stream lining an input method.

This is why people who are going to miss those features are expressing themselves with personal accounts most times. The people who won't miss these features or the strictly online player is indifferent to the effect. It may be small potatoes to the online player, and I know many of them can't see past the improvements as some could care less about those improvements. It's an issue that needs to be addressed, and the closer it gets to release day without no information regarding those features the more ticked the protesters are gonna be. While the online player or the people who don't have this issue are gonna remain the same, full of optimism and glee.

Must be lovely to feel that way this time of year.

[roadman]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Not the case, the people that will miss the options of offline franchise will absolutely hate not being able to do the things they've grown accustomed to doing. It's similar to adding the strat pad, they had to change it because a large part of the community felt it was restrictive. This is no different other than it's a lot more work than stream lining an input method.

This is why people who are going to miss those features are expressing themselves with personal accounts most times. The people who won't miss these features or the strictly online player is indifferent to the effect. It may be small potatoes to the online player, and I know many of them can't see past the improvements as some could care less about those improvements. It's an issue that needs to be addressed, and the closer it gets to release day without no information regarding those features the more ticked the protesters are gonna be. While the online player or the people who don't have this issue are gonna remain the same, full of optimism and glee.

Must be lovely to feel that way this time of year.

Agree with most of this, but what answer would make people the happiest? What if the answer is we will attempt to patch in editing this year if it works effiently and next year we will try to put back the features that were left off this year if it works efficiently.

Would that make people happy?

[Big FN Deal]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Not the case, the people that will miss the options of offline franchise will absolutely hate not being able to do the things they've grown accustomed to doing. It's similar to adding the strat pad, they had to change it because a large part of the community felt it was restrictive. This is no different other than it's a lot more work than stream lining an input method.

This is why people who are going to miss those features are expressing themselves with personal accounts most times. The people who won't miss these features or the strictly online player is indifferent to the effect. It may be small potatoes to the online player, and I know many of them can't see past the improvements as some could care less about those improvements. It's an issue that needs to be addressed, and the closer it gets to release day without no information regarding those features the more ticked the protesters are gonna be. While the online player or the people who don't have this issue are gonna remain the same, full of optimism and glee.

Must be lovely to feel that way this time of year.

Huh? While I hope EA/Tiburon somehow does find a way to address the issues they can before next year, why all of sudden is this particular community outcry going to be the catalyst? Like you stated, strat pad would seem to be different than these issues and many "online" gamers had been complaining about wayyyyy more missing in Online Franchise, for YEARS, with nothing added! lol

So what gives you the impression that the groundswell from those accustomed to offline Franchise, that are upset about CCM not having the same options, will shake the heavens and stir EA/Tiburon into immediate action?

[kehlis]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Thats how EVERY SPORTS GAME WORKS. Just because they put out the latest roster doesn't mean it will update your in progress career.

its not a conspiracy... They made the game the way people have asked for it for years. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit the way you play. Having a functioning game mode is (IMO and many others) more important than being able to edit rosters.

Sorry for the late reply but no it is not how every sports game is made.

In other games I can have edited rosters when they are done and don't have to wait for an "official" roster release to start my season.

You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Agree with most of this, but what answer would make people the happiest? What if the answer is we will attempt to patch in editing this year if it works effiently and next year we will try to put back the features that were left off this year if it works efficiently.

Would that make people happy?

I wonder too Road.

What if EA/Tiburon were to say, they can add stuff server side so they might get in this year but then do nothing, like they did for salaries and contracts with Online Franchise for Madden 10?

I am just amazed at people that act as if what is happening is beyond belief, like they have just been unplugged from The Matrix or something. That "red pill" is a bitch. LOL

[TreFacTor]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Agree with most of this, but what answer would make people the happiest? What if the answer is we will attempt to patch in editing this year if it works effiently and next year we will try to put back the features that were left off this year if it works efficiently.

Would that make people happy?

I believe the truth is all that is needed in any situation and then let the parties involved deal with the information they are given. It's definitely a big issue, tell me the truth and I may still buy in good faith. Say nothing and risk me not even thinking about making this purchase. Quiet frankly how bad does EA value it's Madden community? Or do I care about them more than they care about me in this business relationship we've had going on for 20 years. Give or take the years they were unfaithful to me or I to them.

[roadman]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

I believe the truth is all that is needed in any situation and then let the parties involved deal with the information they are given.

I hope you are right, Tre, but I guarantee you, if the truth be told, there will still be a faction of the people who will be mad as all get go, no matter what EA says.

I love your answer in the ideal world and I hope it's true.

[TreFacTor]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

I hope you are right, Tre, but I guarantee you, if the truth be told, there will still be a faction of the people who will be mad as all get go, no matter what EA says.

I love your answer in the ideal world and I hope it's true.

We have to meet somewhere. The intelligent should be able to take whatever the answer is, and move on from there. It's obvious that it is a big issue and the protesters can't do anything. It's in the devs corner and something I feel, the sooner addressed the better. I myself may never have another opinion on the game based on the answer.

[DNMHIII]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Agree with most of this, but what answer would make people the happiest? What if the answer is we will attempt to patch in editing this year if it works effiently and next year we will try to put back the features that were left off this year if it works efficiently.

Would that make people happy?

Patch in exactly what functionality offline franchise last year had that was left out of CCM and it's a done deal.....end of discussion. People are only upset because entire modes of how they've played in the past are completely gone and the flexibility to edite players and make your own Playbooks is history in CCM. Put that back in and you've got 95% of the people happy as could be IMO.

[roadman]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Patch in exactly what functionality offline franchise last year had that was left out of CCM and it's a done deal.....end of discussion. People are only upset because entire modes of how they've played in the past are completely gone and the flexibility to edite players and make your own Playbooks is history in CCM. Put that back in and you've got 95% of the people happy as could be IMO.

I agree, that is what makes the world go round. I just think, if the old code isn't meshing with the new code at this time, hard to patch everything in from last year with a bit more than a month from going gold.

That's why I say, not everyone will be a happy camper with whatever EA says.

[mcpats]

One thing they keep harping on is the ability to "change over" in CC if you get bored with your current team. Couldn't you do that in madden 12? I remember being able to switch which teams were user controlled and which weren't every offseason. A positive is you can switch from coach to player, I guess.

[StanleyStutters]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

Agree with most of this, but what answer would make people the happiest? What if the answer is we will attempt to patch in editing this year if it works effiently and next year we will try to put back the features that were left off this year if it works efficiently.

Would that make people happy?

If they said they were going to do everything they could to get editing players, importing classes, multiple team control, and couch co-op into CC for Madden 14 I'd be much happier with the direction they're taking.

As far as I know none of this has been said and my biggest concern going forward is that we will be without these features for more than just one year. I wouldn't be surprised if all of these features (except editing) are still absent from CC in Madden 14.

[DNMHIII]

Re: What Madden NFL 13 Connected Careers Gives, Takes Away and Might Have (Kotaku)

I agree, that is what makes the world go round. I just think, if the old code isn't meshing with the new code at this time, hard to patch everything in from last year with a bit more than a month from going gold.

That's why I say, not everyone will be a happy camper with whatever EA says.

Gotcha...its really tough to pick one or two things you know because so much was removed. I guess that if full editing and some form of multi player franchise was patched in to CCM it would really ease the tension.

[CRMosier_LM]

Sorry for the late reply but no it is not how every sports game is made.

In other games I can have edited rosters when they are done and don't have to wait for an "official" roster release to start my season.

You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

What other sports game can you be halfway through a career and the rosters automatically update with the newest one without having to.start over?? I have yet to see that....ever.


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