Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Absolutely and its a bigger mode and exploits WILL be found. I cant say how little bugs will be in, but i think given the success last years revamp was im not too afraid for this year.
Looman has set a high bar that works well (which people then complain dont have imports etc that barely worked).

I know i cant knock down every-mole head in this joint but im gonna go down Ian Cummings style because im so impressed with this mode it deserves better attention.

Yes i know the board here should look at the faults and how to improve them but its not balanced and its really frustrating when big advances get knocked , do you want EA to slow down updating this mode. If your mega happy about the progress stand up for this mode guys! Swamp the complaints until you can barely see them!

Two of the things in last years successful upgrade were to allow rating editing.. Gone! And the unanimously popular random UDFAs also removed , the XP progression in CC is a great idea I think most people agree and looman is dedicated and kind to animals I'm sure that doesn't change my opinion.
I think that CC has much potential and is a vast improvement over the old online franchise and SS modes however as it stands at present its not ready to replace offline franchise as it lacks too much basic functionality

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Well, obviously a big complaint here is that people can't edit the ratings during CCM like everyone did last year as a work-around for poor AI-progression.

Pre-editing them before starting an old franchise fixed the roster file you started with, but what did everyone do (before last year) when they got to year 3...year 5...etc? The ratings couldn't be edited then, and everybody knew that but bought the game anyway. So what's the difference this year?

Again, I'm speaking only to the edit ratings feature because, with exception to '12, every current gen Madden has lacked it & 13 is no exception, yet a lot of people that bought '08 or 09 are skipping this. Not trying to argue, I just don't understand & am looking for clarification.

Custom rosters were used by different people for a multitude of reasons , for affecting gameplay and to individually re-rate players, add missing players etc obviously any gameplay effects would be watered down yearly but most people never get much farther than 5 years in anyway I think

[TreFacTor]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Those who are angry that editing didn't make it in (talking ratings only, here), what did you do before last year?

Not trying to start a fight, just simply curious.

Edit the rosters before starting a franchise and then play the franchise. Once you have the opening day rosters done you can make adjustments to the players equipment, number, name and position until last year when ratings editing was added.

[denverbro89]

I am turned away I must admit. Why would they scrap an entire mode, one that is as significant as Franchise mode, the focal point of the game. And no player editing, THIS IS MADNESS!!!

[ArghMuffinMan]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

OMG they have not, repeat have not scrapped Franchise Mode in Madden. It is simply called Connected Careers Mode now. This mode has all the basic functionality of franchise mode (except hiring coaches, and editing player ratings) with more features.

[therealsmallville]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Edit the rosters before starting a franchise and then play the franchise. Once you have the opening day rosters done you can make adjustments to the players equipment, number, name and position until last year when ratings editing was added.

I'm not talking about opening day rosters though. A lot of posts here are saying that they want to edit ratings to work around the AI progressing or regressing players around the league incorrectly as you get more and more seasons into the franchise. I don't know about Madden 06 on up on last gen as I didn't play those, but Madden 06 - 11 on this gen did not allow you to edit them once a franchise started. So I guess I don't understand why it's a big deal now, unless it's a case of the man who sniffed a blonde and now won't go back to redheads

Draft imports, equipment & number editing, play any game--these have long been staples, more or less, of the series going back to Madden 99. I understand the frustration about those. But editing ratings is lost on me.

[ComfortablyLomb]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

As someone who only plays offline franchise I'm disturbed by the decision making this year. I don't know how it will play out and I think Looman is good at what he does but if I were given a choice this isn't what I would choose. As for the lack of edits, I never have edited rosters to the degree I do in baseball games but being unable to make a few necessary alterations will drive me nuts. The roster guru at EA does a good job but some of his decisions are unforgiveable and being stuck with them is the kind of thing that just eats away at me. I think it was Bill Abner who said that sports games are always flawed but whether or not the flaws are things you can live with determines whether a game will be good for you. All I can say without having played this year's edition is that I'm not encouraged.

[TreFacTor]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

I'm not talking about opening day rosters though. A lot of posts here are saying that they want to edit ratings to work around the AI progressing or regressing players around the league incorrectly as you get more and more seasons into the franchise. I don't know about Madden 06 on up on last gen as I didn't play those, but Madden 06 - 11 on this gen did not allow you to edit them once a franchise started. So I guess I don't understand why it's a big deal now, unless it's a case of the man who sniffed a blonde and now won't go back to redheads

Draft imports, equipment & number editing, play any game--these have long been staples, more or less, of the series going back to Madden 99. I understand the frustration about those. But editing ratings is lost on me.

The issue isn't the loss of editing ratings. The outcry is that there is no way for the offline player to edit anything at all. You mentioned yourself that the ability to edit ratings within your franchise was just implemented last year, most of the complainers understand this. We have however been able to at least edit the offline rosters to our liking before starting a franchise, thus allowing us to update our own rosters and depth charts. Connected Careers offline removes functionality that "have long been staples, more or less, of the series going back to Madden 99."

[bucky60]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

This was the article I was referring to for the Charles Woodson theories or rumors.

Woodson himself said it will be the same as last year and McCarthy said there might be a 6 to 8% chance they change things up with Woodson this year.

My point was, he still lined up at slot DB for OTA's.

Woodson is slowing down a little. They are going to see who the best two cover corners are. Those are the two that will start at CB. If Woodson is one of the top two COVER CORNERS then he will start at CB. If not, he won't. He will be used at the nickel position and probably at safety. Everything hinges on who are the two top COVER corners. GB doesn't know who is going to line up where until they get far enough into training camp and preseason.

[bucky60]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Thought Shields looked pretty good when I've seen him and in himself is another case for editing as his original ratings did him injustice (UDFA?)

Shields took a bit of a step backwards last year. The CB Coach is taking blame for that. Shields was used in sub packages his first year and performed much better than expected. The CB coach used special flash cards to get him ready before each game. Because GB used their base defense so sparingly last year, shields was in first, second and third downs (full time) and the CB coach didn't give him as much personal attention. Shields only played ONE year at CB in college. I'm hoping that he makes a big jump forward this year with an entire off season and training camp/preseason.

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

I'm not talking about opening day rosters though. A lot of posts here are saying that they want to edit ratings to work around the AI progressing or regressing players around the league incorrectly as you get more and more seasons into the franchise. I don't know about Madden 06 on up on last gen as I didn't play those, but Madden 06 - 11 on this gen did not allow you to edit them once a franchise started. So I guess I don't understand why it's a big deal now, unless it's a case of the man who sniffed a blonde and now won't go back to redheads

Draft imports, equipment & number editing, play any game--these have long been staples, more or less, of the series going back to Madden 99. I understand the frustration about those. But editing ratings is lost on me.

I know personally I have been editing ratings prior to starting franhise for many years, tho my memory fails me as to when it was first introduced and thus it belongs on that list with equal billing.
Really to isolate one aspect is missing the point its the total lack of customisation that is the issue I have whether its positions, ratings names or anything

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

OMG they have not, repeat have not scrapped Franchise Mode in Madden. It is simply called Connected Careers Mode now. This mode has all the basic functionality of franchise mode (except hiring coaches, and editing player ratings) with more features.

Quote: franchise is dead ... J. Looman (june2012)
IMO CC Is more an online SS mode with the option to be a coach that resembles HC09 (without the ability to change player position that was in that game)
Long term and big picture that promises to be a good thing but it lacks 3 major (to many) options that were franchise staples and maybe isn't ready to replace franchise this year

[TreFacTor]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

None of the people who will miss editing are negating the advancements the Madden devs have made. The popular misconception of those opposed to allowing editing is that we (the protesters) are somehow berating the advancements of connected career. WE ARE NOT. Connected careers is a wonderful idea until you delve deeper into the offline portion. By trying to make each element equal, they have taken away control of the offline player. Control that is necessary in order to ensure customization of the way you play. We are not asking that full customization be reimplemented, but rather that the devs at least allow us the ability to update our offline connected careers roster. That is all. If you have the ability to get EA's updated rosters, that's fine, but for those who for whatever reason can't this is all we are asking. Is that too much?

[therealsmallville]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

The issue isn't the loss of editing ratings. The outcry is that there is no way for the offline player to edit anything at all. You mentioned yourself that the ability to edit ratings within your franchise was just implemented last year, most of the complainers understand this. We have however been able to at least edit the offline rosters to our liking before starting a franchise, thus allowing us to update our own rosters and depth charts. Connected Careers offline removes functionality that "have long been staples, more or less, of the series going back to Madden 99."

You...really need to calm down a bit. And if you read all 50+ pages of this thread, you'll see that some are singling out the inability to edit ratings as being their biggest issue. My question was obviously to them, and apparently didn't apply to you. But I'm done with this thread, because apparently a question that specifically was looking for clarification and NOT argument cannot be met with any type of logical discussion and is instead viewed as an attack.

The good news is, the release of 13 does not mean that Looman will enter your house and break your copy of 12. Have fun.

[mwjr]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

CC will be the deepest franchise mode you've played in a Madden game.

Just curious - what makes you say this?