Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

[Cnada]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

That lost me but I get the gist is you mean its complicatd. I guess what myself and others are saying is that customisation is such a basic feature it should have been in the 'must have' section of design criteria when the mode was first concieved NOT in the ' to be added when time permits' column. IMO the mode is not ready to replace offline franchise in its current form but was rushed out as a much needed upgrade to online.
I'm not criticizing anything in the mode, I think it shows much promise, more the decision making that lead to the position many longtime offline customers are now in

Customization is not a basic feature contrary to OS belief. Its a much loved aspect here (and i understand that) but its not easy to implement, its not a must have and CC is absolutely ready to replace franchise in every single way outside of the customization enjoyed currently
Im 100% offline franchise guy , the game lags so i don't get to play online.
Now il be able to enjoy Solo Online benefits on top of everything else.

[Bigmac612]

I want to know where is this proof of these "dynamic" storylines what is sooo dynamic about it?? Twitter??...i hope yall not just calling it that cause they (Madden devs) said it is...i seen some of the news feed screens...and it looks just like generic statements...really no different from nba2k...

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[Bigmac612]

Customization is not a basic feature contrary to OS belief. Its a much loved aspect here (and i understand that) but its not easy to implement, its not a must have and CC is absolutely ready to replace franchise in every single way outside of the customization enjoyed currently
Im 100% offline franchise guy , the game lags so i don't get to play online.
Now il be able to enjoy Solo Online benefits on top of everything else.

Its basic enough that every sports game has it in their career modes...now except for madden...s***, i think almost every game in general has a customization menu..especially games involving "people" your playing as...

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[Bigmac612]

Think the base of the problem why it wasn't included isn't being understood and that is causing misguided anger.

It is not that the roster file cannot be touched, its not that specific roster code on players will cause a crash. You can do allllll you player editing in play now like usual.
The problem is that the team has added a big number of very cool new background to every player (real or drafted) which gives them more realistic parameters including production, development, individual team based rating on the scheme they run (so very very cool) , more accurate progression/regression (outside of XP) I could go on, man so proud of the effort done for a relaunch , no franchise mode was reinvented with this amazing level of depth.

So because of the complex logic of Connected Careers in M13 it needs to account for that in edits which is inifitinely harder to predict what happens when you run the bigger code (people forget that its AI and Logic based coding and the consequences can be unintended much like a butterfly effect where it leads to teams doing unrealistic things within the coding parameters all the way to the blue screen of death ...sort of speak

M13 Team know exactly that they want a newsfeed that reflects those storyline changes to your team and trust me its on its way but just not year 1 of CC its the new road map for the next 10 plus years! and is it not a level above the Madden06 roadmap which lacked any innovation and just tacked on horrible sim stat micro improvements??

MAN IM SO HAPPY!! I really want to work with the M13 team

So changing a # or helmet type is going to throw off a player back story and etc??...i think this is what ppl mean when they say "poor design" if this truly the case....

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[Cnada]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Its basic enough that every sports game has it in their career modes...now except for madden...s***, i think almost every game in general has a customization menu..especially games involving "people" your playing as...

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Its already been said that many games when starting out did not have it. Customisation is for the 1% not the 99%

(YES im exaggerating but Im sure Ian Cummings could back me up)

and yes editing # or helmets could mess up storylines.

Im not going to post forever i know OS is a big community and the minority of every bug or feature that doesnt get the ugrade with shout till they die. but i believe strongly in this and will do my part to counter this

[Bigmac612]

Its already been said that many games when starting out did not have it. Customisation is for the 1% not the 99%

(YES im exaggerating but Im sure Ian Cummings could back me up)

and yes editing # or helmets could mess up storylines.

Im not going to post forever i know OS is a big community and the minority of every bug or feature that doesnt get the ugrade with shout till they die. but i believe strongly in this and will do my part to counter this

But madden isnt starting out nor is any of the other sports games..these are features that have been in these games for 15+ years...which makes them basic imo...

And if # editing and etc changes a storyline and etc...they need to go have a talk with the NBA2k ppl for some tutoring and advice...

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[edjames01]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

It's more of a "I want this too look realistic" type thing.

Stop being a Madden Fanboy and accept that some people don't like certain parts of the game, instead of insulting them.

Not a fanboy. I just prefer to spend my time watching REAL football (at the stadium & on television). And it is silly for grown men to be taking this game that seriously.

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Customization is not a basic feature contrary to OS belief. Its a much loved aspect here (and i understand that) but its not easy to implement, its not a must have and CC is absolutely ready to replace franchise in every single way outside of the customization enjoyed currently
Im 100% offline franchise guy , the game lags so i don't get to play online.
Now il be able to enjoy Solo Online benefits on top of everything else.

When I say basic I'm not referring to any necessity for function I'm refering to customer expectations of what should be in a video game as a product, this is not 1995 or whenever career modes were first introduced and customer expectation is at a higher level now, in the same way that Henry Fords mythical "you can have any colour as long as its black" comment wouldn't wash with todays car buyers the absence of customising my game as an option will be railed against by todays game buyers from the OCD sim types to the kid who wants him and his brother on their home team

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Not a fanboy. I just prefer to spend my time watching REAL football (at the stadium & on television). And it is silly for grown men to be taking this game that seriously.

You expected what on a video game forum? No- ones throwing themseves off bridges suprisingly we're discussing a video game

[edjames01]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

Here's a real simple explanation of what i can't do in CC. Every year in all my ports games i make a CAP of myself and add him to my favorite teams and use them in career modes. This year, i can't do that now. That right there is enough to turn me off to this mode this year.

I have the same problem. I have four players that I add to my team regardless of what game or sport I am playing (Madden, 2k Basketball, etc). For some reason I can't do that now.

Obviously, the developers are going in a different direction. If the game isn't good or fun, then you/we should not buy it. On the other hand, if the game is awesome, most of the people complaining will forget about all of this.

[edjames01]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

You expected what on a video game forum? No- ones throwing themseves off bridges suprisingly we're discussing a video game

Some people are crying like their constitutional rights have been violated. Come on, It is a video game (and a awful one).

[edjames01]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

When I say basic I'm not referring to any necessity for function I'm refering to customer expectations of what should be in a video game as a product, this is not 1995 or whenever career modes were first introduced and customer expectation is at a higher level now, in the same way that Henry Fords mythical "you can have any colour as long as its black" comment wouldn't wash with todays car buyers the absence of customising my game as an option will be railed against by todays game buyers from the OCD sim types to the kid who wants him and his brother on their home team

I blame online players for this. If offline & online modes weren't merged, some of these features would not have been touched. That has to be the real reason.

[Cnada]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

I blame online players for this. If offline & online modes weren't merged, some of these features would not have been touched. That has to be the real reason.

32 Full-Online leagues vs editing equipment and jersey #

Its a no-brainer for the Madden team

(not saying its one or the other but you get my drfit)

[briz1744]

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Some people are crying like their constitutional rights have been violated. Come on, It is a video game (and a awful one).

This is a discssion forum , people voicing their opinion is why it exists and its the ONLY game in the genre

[briz1744]

Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

I blame online players for this. If offline & online modes weren't merged, some of these features would not have been touched. That has to be the real reason.

Can't blame the consumer , online franchise needed attention , how this was done however is the issue