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  • CRMosier_LM
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 2061

    #1036
    Originally posted by caballero
    To nitpick, Eric Weddle doesn't wear gloves, and no QB wears gloves on their throwing hand either (except Brady, Roethlisberger and some others when it's real cold)...


    pretty sure ps2 games' Free Agent list wasn't limited... don't listen to EA's BS.


    can you develop? (feel free to PM me)
    Yeah it was.... This get even more so with hd textures, real life audio,... Etc. Ask ANY game developer at this point and they will tell you the EXACT same thing.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

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    • alifeincomplete
      I bent my Wookiee!
      • Jul 2008
      • 1255

      #1037
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

      Originally posted by AttackAttack
      Oh, so you want to be 99 by the middle of your rookie season?

      Most players should never even reach 99
      Holy strawman, Batman!
      The Last of Us is the Citizen Kane of video-games. It is better than every game that has ever come before it, and is the new benchmark for all games to follow. It is nothing short of a work of art.

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      • KBLover
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 12172

        #1038
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

        Originally posted by cuttingteeth
        I pulled the following from the running diary of a gamechanger guy testing Madden 13. Read it and tell me you don't still prefer regular editing.



        Week 4 ( missed the first week)
        2:15 – Ok, so after 3 weeks I’ve only gained 2,225 XP. I can’t buy anything except for Contract Packages 1,050 XP for individual players, free agent pacjages for 787 XP for players, and 1,050 XP for XP Boost Package. Crazy!
        I hate Cut Days, I have to cut 6 players.
        Oh no, Reggie Wayne got hurt in a Preseason game and is out the rest of the year.

        2:35 – Diving into Player Progression. I’m going to manually progress RG III, my HBs, WR, LBs, and DB
        RG 3 had 1, 259 XP and does not qualify for any boosts. The lowest boost available was for 1,500 XP
        Tim Hightower – had 1,274 XP again, nothing to spend on
        Roy Helu – has 1,263 XP
        Santana Moss – 1,699 but the only thing I could buy was Toughness that would move him from a 70 to 71


        It's going to take forever to get any ratings different or to one's liking. I want to vomit. (yes, I posted this in another thread, too, but it's important here just as much).
        Actually, I'm GLAD that it takes a lot of experience points to move players up.

        Seems like XP is more for "tweaking" a player than building one. Still will need to scout, care about the player's skills, etc.

        Or he's going to have to prove over significant time (by earning exp) that he's able to play at a high level in order to progress quickly.

        As far as editing - I wouldn't edit a player's abilities. I'd rather a deeper player-based development system over EXP, but based on what you posted, I feel a bit more at ease about the experience system, even if I still don't particularly like it.
        "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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        • moneal2001
          Pro
          • Jul 2003
          • 835

          #1039
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

          Originally posted by KBLover
          Actually, I'm GLAD that it takes a lot of experience points to move players up. I still don't know how I feel about my experience as a coach making a player play better - that just seems...odd...
          coaches xp doesn't make a player better. each player gains their own xp which you can use to make them better. coaches xp is for off the field(free agency, scouting, and contract negotiantions) and developmental(players under you gain more xp when they complete goals) stuff.

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          • goravens2052
            Banned
            • Jul 2010
            • 772

            #1040
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

            Originally posted by cuttingteeth
            I pulled the following from the running diary of a gamechanger guy testing Madden 13. Read it and tell me you don't still prefer regular editing.



            Week 4 ( missed the first week)
            2:15 – Ok, so after 3 weeks I’ve only gained 2,225 XP. I can’t buy anything except for Contract Packages 1,050 XP for individual players, free agent pacjages for 787 XP for players, and 1,050 XP for XP Boost Package. Crazy!
            I hate Cut Days, I have to cut 6 players.
            Oh no, Reggie Wayne got hurt in a Preseason game and is out the rest of the year.

            2:35 – Diving into Player Progression. I’m going to manually progress RG III, my HBs, WR, LBs, and DB
            RG 3 had 1, 259 XP and does not qualify for any boosts. The lowest boost available was for 1,500 XP
            Tim Hightower – had 1,274 XP again, nothing to spend on
            Roy Helu – has 1,263 XP
            Santana Moss – 1,699 but the only thing I could buy was Toughness that would move him from a 70 to 71


            It's going to take forever to get any ratings different or to one's liking. I want to vomit. (yes, I posted this in another thread, too, but it's important here just as much).
            I felt like you just posted a guide to Pokemon games, not a Football game.

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            • bpac55
              Pro
              • Dec 2007
              • 545

              #1041
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

              yeah reallly...what the heck does that stuff even mean...this is what I am talking about. I play OFFLINE franchise. I have never played online. This stuff means nothing to me. Aside from the roster editing disaster now we have to do all of that???

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              • DorianDonP
                MVP
                • May 2010
                • 1121

                #1042
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                Originally posted by bpac55
                yeah reallly...what the heck does that stuff even mean...this is what I am talking about. I play OFFLINE franchise. I have never played online. This stuff means nothing to me. Aside from the roster editing disaster now we have to do all of that???
                lol I hear what you are saying but the stuff posted above isn't online specific or anything. It's just something you usually see in role playing games. Get enough XP points and you can spend them on upgrades or level ups.

                It's been in Madden before (in mini camps you used points to upgrade your players skills), just not to this extent.

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                • 1D4ever
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 281

                  #1043
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                  Originally posted by AttackAttack
                  Oh, so you want to be 99 by the middle of your rookie season?

                  Most players should never even reach 99
                  Who cares? If he pays 65 dollars he should be able to be rated whatever he wants. Why would anybody care it his game. People act like we are putting Quaters in a arcade machine. No this game cose 59.99 in some countries over 100 dollar so who care if he wants to play 3 different games in a week, import some real rookies, play his brother or change a freaking jersey number, and if you can't do this game is not worth 60 dollars and this game certainly doesn't deserve to carry an exclusive anything.

                  To throw away 15% percent( I thing it is much much bigger) of your fan base away for no good reason at a time when you are losing sales and you exclusive licence is slowly approaching it's end is not good business

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                  • DeuceDouglas
                    Madden Dev Team
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4297

                    #1044
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                    Originally posted by 1D4ever
                    Who cares? If he pays 65 dollars he should be able to be rated whatever he wants. Why would anybody care it his game. People act like we are putting Quaters in a arcade machine. No this game cose 59.99 in some countries over 100 dollar so who care if he wants to play 3 different games in a week, import some real rookies, play his brother or change a freaking jersey number, and if you can't do this game is not worth 60 dollars and this game certainly doesn't deserve to carry an exclusive anything.

                    To throw away 15% percent( I thing it is much much bigger) of your fan base away for no good reason at a time when you are losing sales and you exclusive licence is slowly approaching it's end is not good business
                    I'd like to play as the Sonics....we don't always get what we want whether it's Madden or any other game.

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                    • pats3912
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 284

                      #1045
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                      its gonna be impossible to progress defensive players. Mark my words. I hope players still have an auto preogression during the offseason, because if not, Madden 13 will be the most frustrating experience EVER!!!!!

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                      • slick589
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1285

                        #1046
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                        Originally posted by pats3912
                        its gonna be impossible to progress defensive players. Mark my words. I hope players still have an auto preogression during the offseason, because if not, Madden 13 will be the most frustrating experience EVER!!!!!
                        Whats defense? Madden is about throwing the ball all over the field and trying to score 100 points. Defense hasnt been touched sin Ray Lewis was on the cover and all the pass trajectories are only going to make things worse.

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                        • 87Birdman
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 473

                          #1047
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                          Originally posted by 1D4ever
                          Who cares? If he pays 65 dollars he should be able to be rated whatever he wants. Why would anybody care it his game. People act like we are putting Quaters in a arcade machine. No this game cose 59.99 in some countries over 100 dollar so who care if he wants to play 3 different games in a week, import some real rookies, play his brother or change a freaking jersey number, and if you can't do this game is not worth 60 dollars and this game certainly doesn't deserve to carry an exclusive anything.

                          To throw away 15% percent( I thing it is much much bigger) of your fan base away for no good reason at a time when you are losing sales and you exclusive licence is slowly approaching it's end is not good business
                          Yeah I always loved the he spent $65 so he should get what he wants. So that means if I spend 100,000 dollars on a house I should have everything I want plus more since you know I am spending a heck of a lot more than that measly $65. Sorry but that isn't how it works you spend $65 on something someone else built if you don't like it you don't buy it. And if you feel your entitled to those things you can alway build your own, and as long as you don't sell it or give it out to people I highly doubt the NFL would come after you for using likeness in your game. Because I don't think people get taken down for editing rosters in the NCAA games or in Back Breaker.

                          And if 300,000 plus people aren't going to buy it (which is about that 15%) they will probably have that many new customers then because it seems like their numbers on Madden stay faily consistent and may even show a growth.

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                          • bucky60
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3288

                            #1048
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                            Originally posted by 87Birdman
                            Yeah I always loved the he spent $65 so he should get what he wants. So that means if I spend 100,000 dollars on a house
                            I should have everything I want plus more since you know I am spending a heck of a lot more than that measly $65. Sorry but that isn't how it works you spend $65 on something someone else built if you don't like it you don't buy it.
                            So you only have one choice of house? Did EA buy some exclusive housing license too?

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                            • cuttingteeth
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 627

                              #1049
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                              Originally posted by bucky60
                              So you only have one choice of house? Did EA buy some exclusive housing license too?
                              Touche'

                              That's exactly the point of that argument. When buying a house, I will have choices of house, and I will then have choices of features and options within the house. With Madden, it is the only "house" available, and within that "house" we get limited/decided by others features and options from year to year.

                              The only legitimate argument is that I can buy or not. Of course, then the argument becomes whether or not sales make up what percentage or will or won't make a difference.
                              I'm still playing NCAA 14 and Madden 25...and you know, it's alright.

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                              • pats3912
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 284

                                #1050
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

                                Originally posted by slick589
                                Whats defense? Madden is about throwing the ball all over the field and trying to score 100 points. Defense hasnt been touched sin Ray Lewis was on the cover and all the pass trajectories are only going to make things worse.
                                agreed.

                                .....10 char

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