Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

[CurryMan]

Does anyone know

[MMurda]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

i seriously doubt it, but there is a slight glimmer of hope since theres no old code leftover for these modes and everything is brand new and redesigned.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

Doubt it. Wasn't like that in HC09 if I recall correctly.

[mastermark]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

No and I don't really see where it is necessary. the only real difference would be your DT2 doesn't actually get on the field and your MLB2 does. I don't think a whole new Depth Chart is required for that.

[gjneff]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

A whole new depth chart is sorely needed for many reasons, but that isn't really one. There should be depth chart positions broken down into NFL positions. There should be x,y,z receivers and there should be nickel corner backs as well as left and right corners separate from each other. You could go on with others that really should be there as well; short yardage back, 3rd down pass rush specialists. In the NFL these are all very different positions with different qualities wanted for each spot.

Back to the original question, they at least need to adjust the roster minimums for each defense (more MLB less DT), but removing the limits all together would be the proper choice.

[edjames01]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

A whole new depth chart is sorely needed for many reasons, but that isn't really one. There should be depth chart positions broken down into NFL positions. There should be x,y,z receivers and there should be nickel corner backs as well as left and right corners separate from each other. You could go on with others that really should be there as well; short yardage back, 3rd down pass rush specialists. In the NFL these are all very different positions with different qualities wanted for each spot.

Back to the original question, they at least need to adjust the roster minimums for each defense (more MLB less DT), but removing the limits all together would be the proper choice.

In a perfect world, Madden would completely model everything related to NFL football, but it is a game. Simulating the work of everyone in the front office/coaching staff would be overwhelming for most people.

[Droopy03]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

I hope so because the 3-4 Defensive positions require different strengths. The MLB isn't suppose to be set up by overall ratings. Traditional your strong MLB (the side where the TE is) is more of your run stopper and the other one can run better from sideline to sideline. Also the DE are different as well.

[mastermark]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

A whole new depth chart is sorely needed for many reasons, but that isn't really one. There should be depth chart positions broken down into NFL positions. There should be x,y,z receivers and there should be nickel corner backs as well as left and right corners separate from each other. You could go on with others that really should be there as well; short yardage back, 3rd down pass rush specialists. In the NFL these are all very different positions with different qualities wanted for each spot.

Back to the original question, they at least need to adjust the roster minimums for each defense (more MLB less DT), but removing the limits all together would be the proper choice.

Now that's what I'm talking about!

[Aranor]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

the sad thing is this was something that the 2k series had years ago and madden still hasnt produced something like this YET.

[leonardsigne]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

I don't think a whole new Depth Chart is required for that

[eagskerfan]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

That is so far from realistic it's not even funny. For a 3-4 you need to have a big mammoth 1 tech to play DT so he can take on multiple blockers. Ends need to be larger as well. Your outside backers would be more of a 4-3 defensive end in terms of size, but also need to be athletic enough to drop in to coverage. Have you ever seen an NFL team swith from 4-3 to 3-4 and keep everyone at their same position?????

This is a change they really need to make.

No and I don't really see where it is necessary. the only real difference would be your DT2 doesn't actually get on the field and your MLB2 does. I don't think a whole new Depth Chart is required for that.

[gamerk2]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

No and I don't really see where it is necessary. the only real difference would be your DT2 doesn't actually get on the field and your MLB2 does. I don't think a whole new Depth Chart is required for that.

Yes it is. What if your second ROLB is FAR better then your second MLB? You might want him as the second MLB in a 3-4 scheme.

[moneal2001]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

then put your rolb at 2nd mlb on the depth chart. the only schemes that would warrant a different depth chart would be the 425 and maybe the 335

[btemp]

Re: Is there going to be a separate depth chart for 34 and 43 defenses now?

No and I don't really see where it is necessary. the only real difference would be your DT2 doesn't actually get on the field and your MLB2 does. I don't think a whole new Depth Chart is required for that.

Ugh.

First, it doesn't make any sense to have a standard 4-3 depth chart when the 3-4 (and now the 4-2/3-3) is very prevalent. They're different base schemes that at such a basic level should be included in the game. Its like saying "why differentiate the different LBs, they're pretty much the same!" Further, why aren't there real life depth charts? When you have a depth chart, its not a single list of players by seniority, but players ranked by positions. That's also incredibly basic.

I'll also agree with a previous poster that really there should be REAL NFL positions (although the 4-3/3-4 problems are indicative of the lack of attention played to the defence and line play specifically) like X and Y receivers, H-back instead of Fullback, NT and DTs, 5 tech vs 4-3 DEs etc. To people that suggest this would be too complicated for a casual consumer, who obviously should be able to pick it up and play, not only are the positions blindingly obvious but its right there on the depth chart. So with a 4-3 you have your two starting DTs, and with you're 3-4 you have a single NT.