NCAA Football 13 Screenshot - Field Degradation

[Ky3217]

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Using what appears to be low-level high school football to illustrate how fields should look for major college programs is one of the funnier things I've seen on this site in a while.

Just examples of how weather can affect uniforms. Nothing more, nothing less. The level of play isnt relevant

[mrprice33]

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Just examples of how weather can affect uniforms. Nothing more, nothing less. The level of play isnt relevant

No but the quality of stadium and field is. Would you use a dirt field in the Dominican Republic to compare to the field in Fenway?

Would you use your local YMCA's basketball court to compare to the floor at a new basketball arena?

[Ky3217]

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No but the quality of stadium and field is. Would you use a dirt field in the Dominican Republic to compare to the field in Fenway?

Would you use your local YMCA's basketball court to compare to the floor at a new basketball arena?

Last time I checked, grass affects a jersey the same way no matter what level the game is played at.

Same with dirt at a baseball field.

I wasnt calling the quality of the playing fields into question. I was showing how bad weather can affect jerseys. so again, the level of play is irrelevant

[FloydNDLAL]

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Last time I checked, grass affects a jersey the same way no matter what level the game is played at.

Same with dirt at a baseball field.

I wasnt calling the quality of the playing fields into question. I was showing how bad weather can affect jerseys. so again, the level of play is irrelevant

If what you want for the uniforms to be dirty as in high school. I would never touch NCAA again.

[mrprice33]

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Last time I checked, grass affects a jersey the same way no matter what level the game is played at.

Same with dirt at a baseball field.

I wasnt calling the quality of the playing fields into question. I was showing how bad weather can affect jerseys. so again, the level of play is irrelevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyT0QX6o44I&feature=plcp

I was at this game. It was by far the rainiest game I've ever been to, and check out the uniforms near the end of the video when the rain kicks up. They're wet and dirty, but they aren't filthy. These games were played in a pro stadium on a pro field, not in your backyard. The quality of the turf, and the upkeep of it, makes a HUGE difference in how messed up jerseys get.

When you say "this is how it would be if EA did it realistically," you are trying to prove that what you posted is somehow a representation of what people see on Saturdays and Sundays in fields that cost millions of dollars to keep up.

It's not.

It's really not.

[loccdogg26]

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2010 Capital One Bowl Penn State vs LSU is the last one I remember











http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcOF5NHKpo8

The only reason the field is that awful was a combo of rain mixed with two bowl games and the Florida high school football championships being played around the same time frame.

[jello1717]

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Last time I checked, grass affects a jersey the same way no matter what level the game is played at.

Same with dirt at a baseball field.

I wasnt calling the quality of the playing fields into question. I was showing how bad weather can affect jerseys. so again, the level of play is irrelevant

The quality of the fields leads directly to how dirty the uniforms get so it's very relevant.

[mrprice33]

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That field was so bad they considered never holding a bowl game there ever again.

It almost ended Craig Cooper's career in Miami.

It was a historically bad field for this era.

[Ky3217]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyT0QX6o44I&feature=plcp

I was at this game. It was by far the rainiest game I've ever been to, and check out the uniforms near the end of the video when the rain kicks up. They're wet and dirty, but they aren't filthy. These games were played in a pro stadium on a pro field, not in your backyard. The quality of the turf, and the upkeep of it, makes a HUGE difference in how messed up jerseys get.

When you say "this is how it would be if EA did it realistically," you are trying to prove that what you posted is somehow a representation of what people see on Saturdays and Sundays in fields that cost millions of dollars to keep up.

It's not.

It's really not.

And you think what EA has in now is realistic?

You're telling me higher level football players never get really dirty?




(You can also use the other PSU-LSU photos from earlier in the thread as evidence) and in rsponse to people's explanations... but, but, the field upkeep, the field quality, bla bla bla

Or that fields never degrade?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DTNEa2E7w

Now, if you would have actually read my posts you would have seen that I said I chose them only because they were quick and easy to find. But this time, I did the work just for you. Now dont you feel special?

Also, I dont understand the aversion to muddy football games? Such games are usually some of the most fun to watch.

[Ky3217]

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The quality of the fields leads directly to how dirty the uniforms get so it's very relevant.

So college/professional grass is better than normal grass? lol

I think you'll find that no matter where it is, grass, is grass.

[FloydNDLAL]

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So college/professional grass is better than normal grass? lol

I think you'll find that no matter where it is, grass, is grass.

Pretty sure it is better grass. College/Professional make a lot of money so wouldn't it make sense that they keep the grass in best conditions as possible, because if it were to be that everyone was sliding and it cost you a game just because everyone was sliding all over the place. Am pretty sure everyone would be frustrated losing a game over that reason when they could of simply kept it maintained to where it wouldn't tear causing players to slide, fall, slip, etc.

[mrprice33]

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Games where it gets super muddy are RARE.

Not sure how you can think otherwise unless you don't watch the sport.

But whatever, keep posting pictures of your little brother's pop-warner games and compare that to professionally-maintained fields (not located in Pittsburgh or Chicago).

I used to have season tickets for the Dolphins and Hurricanes, two teams that play in perhaps the rainiest part of the country. I have left more games soaked than I can even count. I know what wet football players look like when they're on a properly maintained field, and it looks NOTHING like what you posted.

[mrprice33]

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Pretty sure it is better grass. College/Professional make a lot of money so wouldn't it make sense that they keep the grass in best conditions as possible, because if it were to be that everyone was sliding and it cost you a game just because everyone was sliding all over the place. Am pretty sure everyone would be frustrated losing a game over that reason when they could of simply kept it maintained to where it wouldn't tear causing players to slide, fall, slip, etc.

Not only that, they re-sod the field multiple times per year. So not only does the field have better drainage, and probably higher quality dirt, it's new more often that it's not.

And that's not even counting field turf!

[PowerofRed25]

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So college/professional grass is better than normal grass? lol

I think you'll find that no matter where it is, grass, is grass.

No, college/professional grass is better maintained than "normal" grass. You know that Steelers mud bowl game at Heinz Field you linked to? 6 days later they played a home game on the same field and the field was fantastic. Why? Because the grounds keepers and facilities maintenance guys for NFL and college teams get A LOT of money to make sure the fields are in as good of condition as possible.

If a grass field gets too torn up, NFL and college teams can afford to replace part or all of the field. If the turn-around time is too quick for sod to take, they can do a pretty good job of repairing it and making it look good and play well. Teams with FieldTurf roll and brush the field turf after every game. If a part of FieldTurf were to get damaged, that individual roll can be pulled out and a replacement sewn in.

The reason the Chicago Bears grass is so terrible is because the Chicago Bears do not operate Soldier Field. It belongs to the Chicago Park District who in turn contracts some of the operations out to an independent company. Upside: Bears don't have to pay for it, Downside: The Chicago Park District can't afford it and so they let the grass get as damaged as possible before replacing it.

You're able to cherry pick these "disaster scenario" field situations because they often get the most air time and dramatic pictures, but the fact of the matter is, it happens maybe a few times a year at most all across football.

[Ky3217]

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Pretty sure it is better grass. College/Professional make a lot of money so wouldn't it make sense that they keep the grass in best conditions as possible, because if it were to be that everyone was sliding and it cost you a game just because everyone was sliding all over the place. Am pretty sure everyone would be frustrated losing a game over that reason when they could of simply kept it maintained to where it wouldn't tear causing players to slide, fall, slip, etc.

And it being better grass means it wont be torn out because? The grass will still get torn out. The field will still get muddy and torn up.

and you're point about losing because of weather conditions is? Anyone who's played the sport knows it's a part of the game. It happens. The other team is struggling with it just as much. Any player/coach/fan who blames a loss on field conditions/weather is just making excuses.

Games where it gets super muddy are RARE.

Not sure how you can think otherwise unless you don't watch the sport.

But whatever, keep posting pictures of your little brother's pop-warner games and compare that to professionally-maintained fields (not located in Pittsburgh or Chicago).

I used to have season tickets for the Dolphins and Hurricanes, two teams that play in perhaps the rainiest part of the country. I have left more games soaked than I can even count. I know what wet football players look like when they're on a properly maintained field, and it looks NOTHING like what you posted.

You're clearly hating on the pictures just to hate, so whatever. Like I said, if you had actually read the post, you would have seen that I said I posted them because they were quick and easy to use. They were an easy depiction. But reading an entire post must be a foreign concept to you. Especially since you also ignored the fact that I mentioned playing on grass would make it much worse many times, even though not all teams play on grass.

Sure, muddy games may be rare. Mainly because you havent seen many football games played in the pouring rain lately. But they still happen.

I mean, is it bad that I can find pictures that prove you wrong? And yes, even though this dirt may possibly be from the old baseball field, it's highly unlikely that you went through the entire football game without seeing a dirty jersey like you're implying.



I also like how the fields that do get messy "dont count" because they "arent well maintained". Does the Notre Dame picture not count either because their field also isnt "well maintained?" What a cop out