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  • Playmakers
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 14978

    #76
    Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff in to NCAA Football 13

    Originally posted by jyoung
    You could choose between playoffs or bowls to end your season in the Genesis games, too.

    So the feature was actually around for two consecutive gaming generations.

    For whatever reason, they took away the feature when NCAA Football made the jump from PS1 to PS2.
    Thank you.....

    I'm not sure why these guys are defending EA for not having it already.....

    This could have been a feature EA used on their own just like they did back in the days you mentioned.

    What does giving the USER the option to choose between Bowl games and playoffs in their Dynasty Mode have to do with real life NCAA Football rules not being in place yet?

    Like i said before earlier in the thread I don't expect EA to include it this year only because they will use it as a MARKETING HYPE for NCAA 14 or 15.

    That's just the way they operate now days...
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21545

      #77
      Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

      Originally posted by Playmakers
      It was once included on the old PS2 system even without a college football playoff system in place.
      I owned every PS2 NCAA Football game (2002 with Chris Weinke on the cover was the first, I had a PS2 at launch, there was no EA college football game for the 2001 iteration on the console) and I don't remember a single one of them having a playoff.

      There's no reason for EA to put a playoff in this year's game, it won't exist in real life for two years, and the logistics as to how bowls will cooperate with the playoff have yet to be determined.

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      • malky
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 1288

        #78
        Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff in to NCAA Football 13

        Originally posted by Playmakers
        Thank you.....

        I'm not sure why these guys are defending EA for not having it already.....

        This could have been a feature EA used on their own just like they did back in the days you mentioned.

        What does giving the USER the option to choose between Bowl games and playoffs in their Dynasty Mode have to do with real life NCAA Football rules not being in place yet?

        Like i said before earlier in the thread I don't expect EA to include it this year only because they will use it as a MARKETING HYPE for NCAA 14 or 15.

        That's just the way they operate now days...
        Yep not rocket science doesnt have to be accurate this time around just include a playoff option using the polls end of story and put them in random stadiums but I guess that requires too much thinking
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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 14978

          #79
          Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

          Originally posted by CM Hooe
          I owned every PS2 NCAA Football game (2002 with Chris Weinke on the cover was the first, I had a PS2 at launch, there was no EA college football game for the 2001 iteration on the console) and I don't remember a single one of them having a playoff.

          There's no reason for EA to put a playoff in this year's game, it won't exist in real life for two years, and the logistics as to how bowls will cooperate with the playoff have yet to be determined.
          and again what does REAL LIFE have to do with a video game and giving you the OPTION to choose between Bowls games or Playoffs in your Dynasty mode?

          I'm confused as to why some of you keep saying this as a reason why it's not in the game already.

          Hell i've always felt it should've been part of the game in play now mode for years already.

          The fact remains there was no playoff system intact when it used to be inlcuded in the game so what makes it any different right now?

          And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.
          Last edited by Playmakers; 07-02-2012, 11:02 PM.
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          • BA2929
            The Designated Hitter
            • Jul 2008
            • 3351

            #80
            Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

            Originally posted by Playmakers
            And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.
            And why shouldn't they market that? That's what they SHOULD do if they're not bad business people. it's not smart business to rush out a patched HUGE feature in '13 that could possibly bring in tons more cash for your business in '14 if it's marketed correctly.

            Also, why push out a half-done patched "Play Now" playoff system when they can work on it for a year and put it on the back of the box AND include it in Dynasty? To be perfectly honest, I don't see why some of you guys even want a playoff in the game if it wouldn't even be usable in Dynasty. Just draw a bracket on paper, put teams in it, and play it that way. It's nearly exactly the same. I used to do that in Tecmo Bowl back on the NES.
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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21545

              #81
              Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

              Originally posted by Playmakers
              and again what does REAL LIFE have to do with a video game and giving you the OPTION to choose between Bowls games or Playoffs in your Dynasty mode?

              I'm confused as to why some of you keep saying this as a reason why it's not in the game already.

              Hell i've always felt it should've been part of the game in play now mode for years already.

              The fact remains there was no playoff system intact when it used to be inlcuded in the game so what makes it any different right now?

              And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.
              Double-standard. People openly criticize and mock EA Sports games for not getting every last detail correct. It is absolutely unfair to demand realism to a T in one instance of the game, and them to create an option that is artificial to what currently exists in real life the next.

              It's not a marketing ploy if EA doesn't have the playoff until NCAA Football 15. It will probably take the real-life powers that be that long to figure out how everything with regard to the playoff - and everything affected by it - is going to work.

              I personally don't want the playoff in a video game until EA has enough information to attempt to do it correctly.

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              • K0ZZ
                The Hard Way
                • Dec 2004
                • 3845

                #82
                I'm critical of EA but to blame them or claim no patch is laziness is erroneous.

                1) No finite factual information has been pulled on how teams were being selected and where they play, if there is any restrictions, etc.

                2) MLB The Show wasn't able to patch in the one extra wild card, and that went into effect this season.

                Despite what some people may believe there is a specific scheduling matrix and that alters dynasty to its very core, not only would they have to code out conflicts, they would have to make up a form of selection of teams, which most likely would just amount to BCS 1-4.

                As far as I'm concerned, it would be nice but it by no means makes them lazy. Drawing the parallel to the Show to support that.
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                • Playmakers
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 14978

                  #83
                  Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                  Originally posted by BA2929
                  And why shouldn't they market that? That's what they SHOULD do if they're not bad business people. it's not smart business to rush out a patched HUGE feature in '13 that could possibly bring in tons more cash for your business in '14 if it's marketed correctly.

                  Also, why push out a half-done patched "Play Now" playoff system when they can work on it for a year and put it on the back of the box AND include it in Dynasty? To be perfectly honest, I don't see why some of you guys even want a playoff in the game if it wouldn't even be usable in Dynasty. Just draw a bracket on paper, put teams in it, and play it that way. It's nearly exactly the same. I used to do that in Tecmo Bowl back on the NES.

                  There are other sports games that allow you to create tournaments and playoffs outside of a franchise or dynasty mode.

                  Heck you can start with College Hoops 2K8 and create a tournament that only consist of All Time teams or Classic teams.

                  There are guys who create and download many teams from Team Builder who probbaly would love to have the option of playing a tournament/Playoff with classic teams like 95 Nebraksa vs 91 Washington for example....

                  Just because it doesn't appease to you doesn't mean it would be worhtless to others.....I for one would have no problems using the feature to setup Playoffs for Classics teams i create.

                  Here's some examples of things you can do with a playoff mode even if it's not installed in Dynasty mode....

                  http://www.dfnsports.com/bigten/2006...big-ten-teams/

                  ESPNโ€™s All-Time Greatest College Football Playoff includes just 5 current Big Ten teams

                  ESPN recently launched their All-Time Greatest College Football Playoff where they have compiled what they feel are the 32 greatest teams in the history of college football. Of those 32 teams, only 5 of the greatest teams in history comes from the current Big Ten Conference.

                  Included on their list are the following Big Ten football teams:
                  ยป 1947 Michigan
                  ยป 2002 Ohio State
                  ยป 1968 Ohio State
                  ยป 1941 Minnesota
                  ยป 1986 Penn State

                  Another example of what a Tournament/Playoff mode would do for added replay value in the game.


                  I mean seriously for the guys who don't care about a playoff system that is your choice....but there are some guys who could also make great use of such a feature even if it's not included in a Dynasty mode for this year.

                  In fact I'd be willing to bet money if EA used a Playoff system this year you'd have more guys on these forums at OS who would download classic teams and use the Playoff Mode outside of Dynasty mode more than they would use the single player Heisman mode inside of Dynasty.
                  Last edited by Playmakers; 07-03-2012, 03:03 AM.
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                  • siouxredskins
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 370

                    #84
                    Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                    does anyone even understand what a patch is or even if its possible with this? Can they involve all the logic this would take ? I think not..I dont know either?

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                    • MrRudy
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 624

                      #85
                      Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                      Originally posted by chicagopax
                      I'm critical of EA but to blame them or claim no patch is laziness is erroneous.

                      1) No finite factual information has been pulled on how teams were being selected and where they play, if there is any restrictions, etc.

                      2) MLB The Show wasn't able to patch in the one extra wild card, and that went into effect this season.

                      Despite what some people may believe there is a specific scheduling matrix and that alters dynasty to its very core, not only would they have to code out conflicts, they would have to make up a form of selection of teams, which most likely would just amount to BCS 1-4.

                      As far as I'm concerned, it would be nice but it by no means makes them lazy. Drawing the parallel to the Show to support that.
                      I personally agree that the patch seems pretty darn unrealistic. However, with all of the talk surrounding the playoff recently, I really wish they'd have just thrown it in there so they could tweak it for the next couple years.

                      I can see it now, broken logic results in my final four being.
                      #1 Alabama (12-0) vs. #4 Kent State (11-1, with 7 wins over FCS Midwest)
                      #2 Boise State (12-0, still in MWC) vs. #3 Toledo (12-0, one win over Kent State, the rest were hogwash)

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                      • MrRudy
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 624

                        #86
                        Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                        Originally posted by siouxredskins
                        does anyone even understand what a patch is or even if its possible with this? Can they involve all the logic this would take ? I think not..I dont know either?
                        This is the meaning of life, or is it? I don't know, or do I?

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                        • SammyC14
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 70

                          #87
                          Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff in to NCAA Football 13

                          Originally posted by taman08
                          playoff system will be a sales pitch for one of the later ncaa footballs...no reason for them to put it in now!! they need to add FCS and all the new FBS schools!!
                          I agree with this! It already seems to take EA's team 6 months to come up with a new marketing campaign for a game that is pretty much similar to the last.

                          Pus, if it's going to be in the game, it needs to actually be in the game (right EA?). I wouldn't want some rigged up playoff format that doesn't actually exist.
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                          • ActLikeYouCrow
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1027

                            #88
                            Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                            the committee will be hell for them to replicate because theres no specific formula to picking the 4 teams. especially that first year when they have to put it in the game before actually seeing it work. which might lead to them saying screw it and just put the top 4 teams from one poll or a polls average.

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                            • malky
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1288

                              #89
                              Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                              Originally posted by ActLikeYouCrow
                              the committee will be hell for them to replicate because theres no specific formula to picking the 4 teams. especially that first year when they have to put it in the game before actually seeing it work. which might lead to them saying screw it and just put the top 4 teams from one poll or a polls average.
                              Yup college hoops 2k didn't have a committee they pretty much used the polls in the game. Basically everything has been done before on other games its not like ea is reinvented the wheel with a playoff. the excuses made for ea are stunning it's almost like they work for them
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                              • voodoo_magic
                                On the 15 day DL-blister
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 724

                                #90
                                Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                                Prediction: won't be in this year and they will "run out of time" to get in next year.

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