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  • FloydNDLAL
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    • Jun 2012
    • 281

    #121
    Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

    Originally posted by Playmakers
    Completely agree with you....

    I think some of these guys will defend EA for life. No one cares if the playoff system isn't intact yet in the real world.

    This is VIDEO GAME FOOTBALL not the real world....They (EA) include fictional players in the game so why would a fictional playoff system be in any different?

    People on these boards argue every year over random ratings assigned to players so who cares if they argue over a random playoff system.....

    They included a playoff mode in older version of the game without it being in the real world of NCAA FOOTBALL yet all of sudden some of these guys are acting like it has to be cut in stone only if the NCAA has it implented in real life already.

    Your comments about Madden and the Houston Texans was a great example of how EA could do it but they won't do it and some of these posters will act like it's impossible even when it's been done before on a older system.

    I understand the playoff formula might not be right this year if they patched it into the game but EA has had done things wrong before in Dynasty mode and tweaked it the next year based on feedback.

    I don't see how including a playoff format would be any different and they could just tweak it next year to make it 100% accurate.

    Personally, I'm more interested in getting the mode added to the game with or without Dynasty Mode this year.....I just think they should atleast include some kind of Playoff Mode/Tournament Mode just for Play Now Games.

    That way as i stated before you give these guys who spend hours creating teams on Team Builder something to do outside of Dynasty mode with their created teams....

    Who to say a guy that creates High School Teams, Division II schools or Black College Football Programs wouldn't love to have a playoff mode and use their Team Builder squads in that Mode.
    Wouldn't it just be the same. If the Playoff system is in included in dynasty? What's the point if your just going to plug whatever teams you want? That just is not what college football is about. Its about the rankings. Every Saturday someone can lose and you could be up in the poll's to have that chance to get into the playoffs that is what makes it exciting imo. This isn't the NFL or NBA where rankings don't matter.

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    • Playmakers
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 14980

      #122
      Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

      Originally posted by FloydNDLAL
      Wouldn't it just be the same. If the Playoff system is in included in dynasty? What's the point if your just going to plug whatever teams you want? That just is not what college football is about. Its about the rankings. Every Saturday someone can lose and you could be up in the poll's to have that chance to get into the playoffs that is what makes it exciting imo. This isn't the NFL or NBA where rankings don't matter.
      I guess you failed to read any of my post....

      Maybe should try reading 1st before responding and following me around CLOWN.

      If your downloading teams from TB like classic teams and or highschool teams you create your own tournament outside of Dyansty mode.

      I also posted two examples of All Time Tournaments created by ESPN maybe you shoudl try reading 1st those are examples of Playoffs/Tournaments that the user can create on his own outside of Dynasty mode......has nothing to do with rankings.

      Now stop being a clown and following me around quoting all of my post....if you disagree fine move the hell on.
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      • FloydNDLAL
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        • Jun 2012
        • 281

        #123
        Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

        Originally posted by Playmakers
        I guess you failed to read any of my post....

        Maybe should try reading 1st before responding and following me around CLOWN.

        If your downloading teams from TB like classic teams and or highschool teams you create your own tournament outside of Dyansty mode.

        I also posted two examples of All Time Tournaments created by ESPN maybe you shoudl try reading 1st those are examples of Playoffs/Tournaments that the user can create on his own outside of Dynasty mode......has nothing to do with rankings.

        Now stop being a clown and following me around quoting all of my post....if you disagree fine move the hell on.
        So your saying that we should just put a playoff mode for created teams. When you in fact can just put them in dynasty mode. What would be the difference?

        Way to be rude.Am just posting my opinion no need to get all offended. If NCAA doesn't approve it obviously it won't be in the game. Its that simple.
        Am not following you around can't i check the all the threads?, But Ok

        If you disagree with me. You move on no need to be quoting me back

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        • Kaiser Wilhelm
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 2801

          #124
          Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

          Originally posted by Playmakers
          I guess you failed to read any of my post....

          Maybe should try reading 1st before responding and following me around CLOWN.

          If your downloading teams from TB like classic teams and or highschool teams you create your own tournament outside of Dyansty mode.

          I also posted two examples of All Time Tournaments created by ESPN maybe you shoudl try reading 1st those are examples of Playoffs/Tournaments that the user can create on his own outside of Dynasty mode......has nothing to do with rankings.

          Now stop being a clown and following me around quoting all of my post....if you disagree fine move the hell on.
          Lay off the name calling. Your post did have some clarity issues. Also, I think having a playoff-tournament mode is a waste. The real topic at hand is the real "playoff" (if you can call it that) system that the NCAA is implementing and having EA implement it into dynasty mode.

          I'm not trying to start anything, but simply saying that we should keep it civil here and leave the name calling for the playground.
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          • mattsatx79
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            • Nov 2011
            • 14

            #125
            That would be great it they patched it, but I do not see it happening.

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            • ghettoqball
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 363

              #126
              Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff in to NCAA Football 13

              Originally posted by AlmostLikeFlacco
              "If itโ€™s not in the game, then EA is failing to deliver the most accurate product possible."


              Oh, please. Give me a break.

              The playoff system doesn't even go into effect for another 2 YEARS. They can, should, and probably will implement it in NCAA Football 15 because then, and only then, would it be accurate to do so.
              I really don't understand how this post got so many likes... especially because of the bolded part. Only in NCAA 15 would it be accurate to do so? I guess... if your dynasty only lasts a year or two. I usually have a dynasty that goes 20 or more years. So 18 or more of those years in real life would have a playoff. For long dynasties, it would be far more accurate to have a playoff every season than to continue with the current bowl setup.

              I don't expect them to implement a playoff in this year's game... especially since the details of the playoff aren't even completely worked out yet. But it ABSOLUTELY should be in next year's game.

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              • Playmakers
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 14980

                #127
                Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                Originally posted by FloydNDLAL
                So your saying that we should just put a playoff mode for created teams. When you in fact can just put them in dynasty mode. What would be the difference?

                Way to be rude.Am just posting my opinion no need to get all offended. If NCAA doesn't approve it obviously it won't be in the game. Its that simple.
                Am not following you around can't i check the all the threads?, But Ok

                If you disagree with me. You move on no need to be quoting me back
                1st off you've been quoting me for the past 3 days

                2nd of all if you want to get me banned by having a mod send warnings that's fine....

                I think it's silly and childish of you but what ever i'm done with this conversation if banning me makes you guys feel better because i disagree about the situation then ban me.
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                • malky
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1288

                  #128
                  Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff in to NCAA Football 13

                  Originally posted by ghettoqball
                  I really don't understand how this post got so many likes... especially because of the bolded part. Only in NCAA 15 would it be accurate to do so? I guess... if your dynasty only lasts a year or two. I usually have a dynasty that goes 20 or more years. So 18 or more of those years in real life would have a playoff. For long dynasties, it would be far more accurate to have a playoff every season than to continue with the current bowl setup.

                  I don't expect them to implement a playoff in this year's game... especially since the details of the playoff aren't even completely worked out yet. But it ABSOLUTELY should be in next year's game.
                  Yep I agree this whole "realistic" crap is bs. right now I can put the whole PAC 12 on the east coast in this game. Is that realistic? Heck no. But it's about choice which is something ea appeared to be getting right last year we will see if they get it right next year with BOTH games
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                  • thelasthurtknee
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1461

                    #129
                    wow, hardheaded people. they cant guys, NCAA controls content based on license. They cannot do this, without paying for it. They cannot make money off of a revenue generating (bowls make money) aspect of whats in the game. which means if they put the playoffs and use the real bowls they have to pay the bowls like they do already to have them in the game. they make a % off of each sell just like the schools do. if you add the playoff they would have to not use the bowls and make up a playoff that has not link to current bowls. ONce the bowl rotation schedule is approved and which bowls will be used are in then they will know how much each school gets. also the ncaa lisence experation date comes into play. you only hope is they make up their own playoff system, unlikely or they get it in for next season and it adds in for season 2014. this isnt hard to understand guys. why would ea spend time making a playoff system that they would just have to rewrite when they find out system. The NCAA lawyers still get approval on everything. they removed the academic and suspensions from this game because of image. they also didnt allow rivals in when they EA had already put them in the game. Its not ea's call. let the ncaa know that you want a playoff in the game. Try Mike Slive (sec president), he might care. come on kiddo's you guys are smarter than this. I know you guys can contemplate the business side.

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                    • The JareBear
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 11574

                      #130
                      Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                      I just have a hard time believing that EA could handle doing this even if they wanted to.

                      I mean, it took them a couple patches last year just to fix custom playbooks. I mean honestly, even if they wanted to, could they add a brand new component to the game post-release?
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                      • smlmeyer
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 111

                        #131
                        I don't know if this has been brought up (Reading six pages of people saying, "IF IT'S NOT IN, I'LL NEVER BUY AN EA GAME AGAIN!" and other people saying, "THEIR IDEA OF A PLAYOFF IS NOT EVEN COMPLETE YET!" is not generally how I choose to spend my time on here.) but wouldn't it be the neutral stance AND user-friendly stance to do what they did with conference alignment and allow us to CHOOSE from season to season? If you want a sixteen team playoff from the get-go, you can. If you want what they think will be the case and start a four team playoff in 2014 or 2015, you can. If you want BCS forever, you're dumb but you can. Just a thought. The question is a good question, but it's more of an open-ended question than what all of you fine OS'ers are making it.
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                        • malky
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1288

                          #132
                          Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                          Originally posted by smlmeyer
                          I don't know if this has been brought up (Reading six pages of people saying, "IF IT'S NOT IN, I'LL NEVER BUY AN EA GAME AGAIN!" and other people saying, "THEIR IDEA OF A PLAYOFF IS NOT EVEN COMPLETE YET!" is not generally how I choose to spend my time on here.) but wouldn't it be the neutral stance AND user-friendly stance to do what they did with conference alignment and allow us to CHOOSE from season to season? If you want a sixteen team playoff from the get-go, you can. If you want what they think will be the case and start a four team playoff in 2014 or 2015, you can. If you want BCS forever, you're dumb but you can. Just a thought. The question is a good question, but it's more of an open-ended question than what all of you fine OS'ers are making it.
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                          • TDenverFan
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                            • Jan 2011
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                            #133
                            Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                            I believe the NCAA does not allow that. EA used to have it.
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                            • Annarborborn
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 6

                              #134
                              I am totally convinced that most of the people here are either 10 years old or never had a real job in your lives. For one there is a little thing called a CONTRACT!!! EA has a contract with the NCAA and they cannot just put something in the game without getting some approval or they will no longer have a game to make. And no, the next company would not be able to put in a playoff in their game either, not until everything is finalized and concluded and everyone has signed on the dotted line.

                              Then this playoff system is changing daily. I can tell no one watches actual NCAA news. Do you fools know that the ACC just signed a 12 year contract with the Orange Bowl? The game will be played at 1:00 in the afternoon on New Year's Day and will have some possible playoff involvement, but not yet determined. Heck all you have to do is watch College Football Live on a regular basis and you will see how much this story has changed. Also the Big 12 and SEC have created a new bowl and have named it, but have not figured out the details of when it will be played and where it will be played. And yes, this has not been determined yet either.

                              Now you fools want EA to put in something that not only has not been worked out by all the parties involved, but has not been contracted with EA to use. If EA did put in the Bowls that will be included in the playoff system and used the wrong ones that will be in real life, then you fools would be upset about that too. Then you would be upset if they did not use the bowls at all and did a home field option which has also been discussed by the NCAA Committee that made this proposal. There are so many issues not finalized and we do not even know if there will be a BCS type poll used at all in the process or just a committee. All we know is there will be a 4 team playoff, but we do not know how the committee will decide these things or where the darn games will be played. All of that would be screwed up if EA just patched this up and put it in a game.

                              I am convinced that people here have never heard of a contract. I guess they do not realize that they have to get a contract for all the schools, uniforms, helmets, logos, trophies and even stadiums. So when the Michigan-Notre Dame game had new uniforms, Adidas has to give permission to use their design and logos to put in the game. You cannot just throw something together and hope that the NCAA or those companies are not upset. And if they take their licensing away everyone would complain. The NCAA is already being sued now for the likenesses of players being used with just a number.

                              I think some of you need a job in the real world and maybe, just maybe you will get a clue. My God this has to be one of the dumbest topics and gripes I have ever read about a video game in my life.

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                              • malky
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1288

                                #135
                                Re: Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

                                Originally posted by Annarborborn
                                I am totally convinced that most of the people here are either 10 years old or never had a real job in your lives. For one there is a little thing called a CONTRACT!!! EA has a contract with the NCAA and they cannot just put something in the game without getting some approval or they will no longer have a game to make. And no, the next company would not be able to put in a playoff in their game either, not until everything is finalized and concluded and everyone has signed on the dotted line.

                                Then this playoff system is changing daily. I can tell no one watches actual NCAA news. Do you fools know that the ACC just signed a 12 year contract with the Orange Bowl? The game will be played at 1:00 in the afternoon on New Year's Day and will have some possible playoff involvement, but not yet determined. Heck all you have to do is watch College Football Live on a regular basis and you will see how much this story has changed. Also the Big 12 and SEC have created a new bowl and have named it, but have not figured out the details of when it will be played and where it will be played. And yes, this has not been determined yet either.

                                Now you fools want EA to put in something that not only has not been worked out by all the parties involved, but has not been contracted with EA to use. If EA did put in the Bowls that will be included in the playoff system and used the wrong ones that will be in real life, then you fools would be upset about that too. Then you would be upset if they did not use the bowls at all and did a home field option which has also been discussed by the NCAA Committee that made this proposal. There are so many issues not finalized and we do not even know if there will be a BCS type poll used at all in the process or just a committee. All we know is there will be a 4 team playoff, but we do not know how the committee will decide these things or where the darn games will be played. All of that would be screwed up if EA just patched this up and put it in a game.

                                I am convinced that people here have never heard of a contract. I guess they do not realize that they have to get a contract for all the schools, uniforms, helmets, logos, trophies and even stadiums. So when the Michigan-Notre Dame game had new uniforms, Adidas has to give permission to use their design and logos to put in the game. You cannot just throw something together and hope that the NCAA or those companies are not upset. And if they take their licensing away everyone would complain. The NCAA is already being sued now for the likenesses of players being used with just a number.

                                I think some of you need a job in the real world and maybe, just maybe you will get a clue. My God this has to be one of the dumbest topics and gripes I have ever read about a video game in my life.
                                And yet you write a book about what we are discussing? So who's the bigger fool? Yet you know what eA can and cannot do? You don't know what it says in there contract so what do you know? only thing you seem to know is holding up the EA shield for no reason at all
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