Trade for CJ Spiller

[Arrow218]

I've been done with M12 for awhile now, but looking ahead to 13, I've decided to trade for CJ Spiller in my Colts franchise/Pagano CC. I probably want to include Donald Brown or Delone Carter in the deal. Brown and Spiller have similar play styles, and should both be in the same OVR range, 77-80. Keeping in mind that I use realistic sliders and should be picking top 10, what would be a fair trade? Maybe Brown and a 2013 4th rounder for Spiller? Leave some ideas please!

[Gronk4M13]

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I've been done with M12 for awhile now, but looking ahead to 13, I've decided to trade for CJ Spiller in my Colts franchise/Pagano CC. I probably want to include Donald Brown or Delone Carter in the deal. Brown and Spiller have similar play styles, and should both be in the same OVR range, 77-80. Keeping in mind that I use realistic sliders and should be picking top 10, what would be a fair trade? Maybe Brown and a 2013 4th rounder for Spiller? Leave some ideas please!

As you said, Brown and Spiller should both be between 75-80 overall. I'd do Brown, another player in the high 70's or low 80's, and a second rounder for Spiller and since you'll be the Colts, a wide receiver.

[pinksheets]

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I agree with the above. Brown has never proven anything on the field really, Spiller stepped up when Jackson went down. I'd offer Brown + a solid 3-4 defender + a 3rd/4th.

[jlmattick54]

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You are probably going to have to wait to see how the trade logic is this year. I think I read somewhere that it has changed. This seems like a fair trade to me on madden Spiller is a way more versatile player than Brown. That being said if the trade logic is upgraded at all it shouldnt let it go through

[Arrow218]

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You are probably going to have to wait to see how the trade logic is this year. I think I read somewhere that it has changed. This seems like a fair trade to me on madden Spiller is a way more versatile player than Brown. That being said if the trade logic is upgraded at all it shouldnt let it go through

Why shouldn't it go through? That's a fair trade.

[Arrow218]

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I agree with the above. Brown has never proven anything on the field really, Spiller stepped up when Jackson went down. I'd offer Brown + a solid 3-4 defender + a 3rd/4th.

Brown actually had a good year. 4.8 ypc and 550 some yards. He didn't start at first, that's why he had so few carries. But yeah, that sounds fair.

[brettmickey]

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I agree with the above. Brown has never proven anything on the field really, Spiller stepped up when Jackson went down. I'd offer Brown + a solid 3-4 defender + a 3rd/4th.

Actually Buffalo is going back to a 4-3 defense with Mario Williams and Mark Anderson as the d-ends. Since the overalls will differ depending on scheme, the OP would be more inclined to give up a 4-3 player because that 4-3 player will have a more favorable overall with the Bills. So, if I wanted Spiller and I controlled the Colts, I would offer Spiller, a mid round draft pick, and a solid 4-3 defender (maybe a linebacker?).

Actually now that I think about it, isn't Indy going to a 3-4 dominant scheme? If they are, this would work out very well for the OP as he gets to keep his 3-4 players and ship off some 4-3 preferred players in exchange for Spiller. Sounds like a good plan to me!

[Stafford2Johnson]

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Brown, 4th Rounder, and a defender sound fair. Then again, I've never been one to think trades over to make sure I'm not getting a steal. My rule has and always will be:

I find an offer I like. If they accept, I cannot go back and try to get something better, or offer less. (:

[Arrow218]

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Actually Buffalo is going back to a 4-3 defense with Mario Williams and Mark Anderson as the d-ends. Since the overalls will differ depending on scheme, the OP would be more inclined to give up a 4-3 player because that 4-3 player will have a more favorable overall with the Bills. So, if I wanted Spiller and I controlled the Colts, I would offer Spiller, a mid round draft pick, and a solid 4-3 defender (maybe a linebacker?).

Actually now that I think about it, isn't Indy going to a 3-4 dominant scheme? If they are, this would work out very well for the OP as he gets to keep his 3-4 players and ship off some 4-3 preferred players in exchange for Spiller. Sounds like a good plan to me!

Yep, sounds fair.
We are indeed switching to a 3-4. We cut some of our better 4-3 players, however. Anyone who couldn't move positions to fit in the 3-4 like Freeney and Mathis are. Any other positions of concern I could help with? We have a good 2nd year 4-3 DT in Drake Nevis from LSU, he was a 3rd round draft pick in 2011. I know your DL is pretty much set, could he develop behind Kyle Williams?

[pistolpete]

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I bet the Bills IRL would take a 2nd rounder straight up.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Are you trying to find a deal that the game will accept or that the real Bills would likely accept? Because these trades would get you hung up on IRL.

[buckyt16]

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Not sure if anyone here reads rotoworld or not but I have found that site very helpful in the past and this is what they have to say about Donald Brown....

"Donald Brown's 2011 yards-per-carry average of 4.81 drops to 4.25 if you exclude one run -- Brown's 80-yard touchdown in Week 15 against the Titans.
The run was the best of Brown's career and no one can take it away from him, but it single-handedly skews a stat we like to think of as predictive for NFL running backs. Even when you include the run, Brown's career yards-per-carry average is 4.17. And that's a lot more indicative of the kind of player he's been."

Hopefully this helps.. and if you want it to be fair I say Spiller is a Much better talent than Brown so you might have to offer a lot more.

[brettmickey]

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Not sure if anyone here reads rotoworld or not but I have found that site very helpful in the past and this is what they have to say about Donald Brown....

"Donald Brown's 2011 yards-per-carry average of 4.81 drops to 4.25 if you exclude one run -- Brown's 80-yard touchdown in Week 15 against the Titans.
The run was the best of Brown's career and no one can take it away from him, but it single-handedly skews a stat we like to think of as predictive for NFL running backs. Even when you include the run, Brown's career yards-per-carry average is 4.17. And that's a lot more indicative of the kind of player he's been."

Hopefully this helps.. and if you want it to be fair I say Spiller is a Much better talent than Brown so you might have to offer a lot more.

Plus Spiller is a much better receiving threat and has kick returning ability with more upside.

[Arrow218]

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Plus Spiller is a much better receiving threat and has kick returning ability with more upside.

I don't think KR ability would really break the deal... Who's to say he has more upside?

[Arrow218]

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Are you trying to find a deal that the game will accept or that the real Bills would likely accept? Because these trades would get you hung up on IRL.

IRL. And I don't think so. Spiller looks like a bust, he's not starting, and look at what players go for. Asante Samuel- 7th round pick. Brandon Marshall- two 3rds. Keith Rivers- 4th. DB, a 3rd, and a good LB is more than fair for a backup RB.