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  • thedudedominick
    MVP
    • Mar 2009
    • 3794

    #1

    Recruiting Gems and Busts

    For those that have gotten into a dynasty already let's hear about your biggest recruiting finds as far as Gems and Busts go.

    With UTSA I was searching for some JUCO players to give my team depth and talent at the cost of not having a deep freshman class, I found three offensive linemen that started around 60 overall and after scouting each were close to 75. Definitely was just what I needed, three guys one SO and two JR that could step in and start right away.

    I also found a guy who was a bust. 4* player that started at 70, ended up being a 60 after scouting.
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    NCAAF: Ohio State
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    MLB: Chicago Cubs
  • ipitythafool25
    C*n*n FTW
    • Dec 2002
    • 771

    #2
    Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

    I've had a few ..one right off the top of my head was a 3* tight end who was rated a 68, nobody was touching him.. I didn't really need a tight end, but his height and 40 time made me scout him out.

    Turns out to be a 80 rated tight end

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    • Tweeg
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1414

      #3
      Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

      Is that really how the gem/bust feature works? I would consider a gem or bust somebody that ends up differently than what you've scouted, regardless of how much you scout them. If you can just sniff out these 'busts' by scouting, then they aren't actually a bust.
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      • thedudedominick
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 3794

        #4
        Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

        Originally posted by Tweeg
        Is that really how the gem/bust feature works? I would consider a gem or bust somebody that ends up differently than what you've scouted, regardless of how much you scout them. If you can just sniff out these 'busts' by scouting, then they aren't actually a bust.
        Pretty much. Every recruit starts off with an overall. Scouting them reveals their individual attributes and recalculates their overall based on that. The 4* guy I scouted and saw how much worse he was, ended up signing with Texas. I bet they were disappointed.

        It just puts an emphasis on scouting. I haven't advanced multiple seasons yet so I don't know if being a gem or a bust effects progression at all.
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        NCAAF: Ohio State
        NFL: Minnesota Vikings
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        • Chrisksaint
          $$$
          • Apr 2010
          • 19127

          #5
          Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

          Heh it's as close as you're gonna get, I mean it still applies as they may be a 70 overall 3* to recruiting services but after you're scouting you realize he's overrated and would be a bust relative to what he was given rating/* wise.

          Had a 3* OT in my Texas St. go from a 57 to a 66 with scouting, haven't found a bust yet but I like this system so far.
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          • Colt45
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 656

            #6
            Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

            I saw a two-star WR who was 70 OVR at 100% scouted. Can't remember what he started as, though.

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            • thedudedominick
              MVP
              • Mar 2009
              • 3794

              #7
              Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

              Earlier today had a 3* athlete jump from up from a 65 to an 80. Looks like he will be able to play offense or defense and be a very good player right away. Looking forward to bringing him into my rebuilding program.
              NHL: Vegas Golden Knights
              NCAAF: Ohio State
              NFL: Minnesota Vikings
              MLB: Chicago Cubs

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              • franch1se
                All Star
                • Apr 2004
                • 9060

                #8
                Just started a test dynasty with sdsu. Haven't had a chance to land any gems or busts but I have seen The gem label. I think I'm onto a bust though. 3* CB and everytime I scout him his ratings decrease with the red arrow.

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                • Colt45
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 656

                  #9
                  Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                  I got the gem label on a DE in my dynasty. He was 54 OVR after 100% scouted.

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                  • thedudedominick
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3794

                    #10
                    Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                    I think I am going to start marking down who my "gems" are and see if they progress more than the other freshmen I bring in.
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                    NCAAF: Ohio State
                    NFL: Minnesota Vikings
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                    • Tweeg
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1414

                      #11
                      Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                      I guess I won't be scouting then. It gives a huge advantage to the user to see these real ratings while the cpu is just going to recruit based on the initial rating.
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                      • thedudedominick
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3794

                        #12
                        Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                        Originally posted by Tweeg
                        I guess I won't be scouting then. It gives a huge advantage to the user to see these real ratings while the cpu is just going to recruit based on the initial rating.
                        I don't think this is necessarily true. I had TCU come in and steal a 2* gem from me when I was Texas State. I was the only guy on his list up until week 8 or so and TCU popped up and got ahead of me.
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                        • Colt45
                          Rookie
                          • May 2011
                          • 656

                          #13
                          Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                          Originally posted by Tweeg
                          I guess I won't be scouting then. It gives a huge advantage to the user to see these real ratings while the cpu is just going to recruit based on the initial rating.
                          And how do you know this?

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                          • Pezell04x
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2907

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tweeg
                            I guess I won't be scouting then. It gives a huge advantage to the user to see these real ratings while the cpu is just going to recruit based on the initial rating.
                            You only get 3 hours for the regular season, I believe

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                            • thedudedominick
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3794

                              #15
                              Re: Recruiting Gems and Busts

                              Originally posted by Pezell04x
                              You only get 3 hours for the regular season, I believe

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                              Correct. 20 in the pre-season and 3 each week after. I can see having a frustrating recruiting year if everyone you scout turns out to be just what you expected or busts.
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                              NCAAF: Ohio State
                              NFL: Minnesota Vikings
                              MLB: Chicago Cubs

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