Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

[jWILL253]

I was playing on my Miami Hurricane's Dynasty today, and I finally started my first game against Boston College after spending 2 hours recruiting. I play on All-American difficulty, 15 min qtrs, play clock on.

At first, I had a huge 24-7 lead half way through the second quarter... Then things started getting a little weird.

My receivers started dropping obscene amounts of passes. I mean, just consecutive wide open pass drops. Halfway through the third, my QB was only 9/23, with 200 yes, and 1 pick. From there, I decided to Supersim, only to have BC create a comeback, and UM was only able to win by 3, after letting them come back to score 47.

I feel like that was gonna happen regardless...

[JoedicyMichael]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

lol I certainly doubt the game has pre-determined outcomes for User vs CPU action.

While i played the Demo, i noticed all the scores from the updates would eventually be the same. But that was CPU vs CPU of course.

So in theory. My answer is For User vs CPU - Def Not.. For CPU vs CPU.. Maybe.. Who knows. But even then i still dobut it.

[Floridastatefan02]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

A big "conspiracy" about FIFA 12 was this pre-determined theory. I don't think that we could go as far as saying the game is predetermined, but I think that the CPU may try and "cheat" to keep themselves in the game.

[Madwolf]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

CPU vs CPU isn't predetermined. North Texas beat LSU in week 1 of my dynasty.

[aerovt]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

simmed games are not predetermined. Save, sim game, check score, reload and repeat to get different results.

Thats said, there is definitely a 'comeback' ai that tries to help keep the ai in user/cpu games. Its not as bad as some people rage about, but if you are up by a lot, your chances of throwing picks, dropping passes or fumbling on aggressive plays increases substantially. Its EA's silly way of preventing blowouts. When you're up just do HB dives and play it safe.

[Colt45]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

CPU vs. CPU games are simmed inbetween weeks. There's nothing pre-determined about it.

Comeback AI, though, that's DEFINITELY legit.

[jeremym480]

Ah, release week for any major sports game isn't complete without the old comeback AI thread.

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[marginwalker12]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

I definately get a sense of strong AI rubberbanding present in this game. I basically took last year off when I traded it in for Madden, so maybe I'm not back to speed. But, in my Texas opener against Wyoming, the CPU made it rain first off. Which I accept. But up 10-3 driving in the early second, Malcolm Brown got hurt. Next play was stuffed for a three yard loss. Then the dams broke on a sack putting me out of field goal position. On the next drive I hit Shipley in the end zone only for him to make the catch out of the end zone and be down at the inch line. No biggie, I'll punch it in from there. Nope. Wyoming stuffs me 4 times. I get a safety after the turnover and go up 12-3. Early third, Ash gets a concussion and doesn't come back. The offensive line then decides it hates McCoy and won't block for him. And when he does get the pass off he doesn't throw according to the route, he throws it to where the receiver is at, picked off. (Why after each interception my receiver becomes totally limp and freeze? But for the CPU, their receiver turns into a ballhawking mosquito?) Wyoming puts it in the end zone when my defender retreats after snuffing a WR screen. (3 blockers, forget this!) 12-10. I add a field goal thanks to a 3 headed run attack. Nothing open on 3rd, so I just threw it away. 15-10. Wyoming's second string quarterback enters the game. Marches them down the field. Hits a wide open man along the sideline around my 13, Hicks strips the ball and Vaccaro some how recovers the ball with what appears to be magnet hands before it goes out. Hold on for the 15-10 win.

Impresssions:
The CPU defense obivously picks up on snap counts. I drew them offsides five times during the game. Which told me they picked up their game after falling behind 10-3, and played much more aggressive.

The Texas schedule isn't right. Their second game is against New Mexico not Ole Miss.

[ClemTiger]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

It definitely exist. The two games I've lost on heisman difficulty I've had double digit leads only to magically start tossing picks all over the field and the CPU becoming unstoppable.

[jeremym480]

So has anyone came back from multiple scores down to beat the CPU?


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[Aoyoc]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

It definitely exist. The two games I've lost on heisman difficulty I've had double digit leads only to magically start tossing picks all over the field and the CPU becoming unstoppable.

I've noticed similar things get weird in my games too. More drops, more picks, and more sacks. It's almost like as the game progresses the CPU players stats increase/ramp up.

[adamcsay]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

So has anyone came back from multiple scores down to beat the CPU?


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I've done it twice in year one thus far. I'm in week 6 right now, but I was down 24-0 at the half against Baylor in week 1 (SMU) and came back to beat them 27-24. Then I just finished up a game against TCU where I was down 27-0 and beat them 37-30. Though I will say I'm playing as an OC and simmed through defense.

[Cardot]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

So has anyone came back from multiple scores down to beat the CPU?

In my history with EA football games, I have had some comebacks that felt pretty spoon-fed and cheesy. Not fun at all. I have had games were I have sucked, and really deserved to lose. But all of a sudden I'll get a freebie kick return where defenders don't come within 15 yards of me. Then I'll get a courtesy pick-6 by a CPU teammate where I have the daunting task of holding up on the control stick for a TD. Despite struggling with the passing game in the first half, all of a sudden I can lob up passes into triple coverage for completions.

[jayenomics]

Re: Does NCAA Football 13Have Completely Pre-determined Outcomes?

It definitely exist. The two games I've lost on heisman difficulty I've had double digit leads only to magically start tossing picks all over the field and the CPU becoming unstoppable.

maybe when you have double digit leads you should try to start running the ball like a normal team would...

[Lets Mosh]

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I was playing on my Miami Hurricane's Dynasty today, and I finally started my first game against Boston College after spending 2 hours recruiting. I play on All-American difficulty, 15 min qtrs, play clock on.

At first, I had a huge 24-7 lead half way through the second quarter... Then things started getting a little weird.

My receivers started dropping obscene amounts of passes. I mean, just consecutive wide open pass drops. Halfway through the third, my QB was only 9/23, with 200 yes, and 1 pick. From there, I decided to Supersim, only to have BC create a comeback, and UM was only able to win by 3, after letting them come back to score 47.

I feel like that was gonna happen regardless...

The problem is there is a glitch in the supersim. The CPU offense will always score a TD in one or two plays. Why? Go into supersim and watch a play or two on defense and you'll see why. It's freakin weird.