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  • sabo022362
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 7

    #1

    Cpu aggressive zone defense

    I play coach mode and watch some cpu vs cpu games.whenever I check the cpu defence adjustment on zone coverage its on aggressive, I think this is leading to poor safety play(getting burned deep) has anyone else noticed this and are their any solutions to problem
  • DirtyJerz32
    All Star
    • Aug 2007
    • 7617

    #2
    Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

    This would an amazing find if true. I'm going to play right now and find out.
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    • Ramminyou
      MVP
      • Feb 2005
      • 1222

      #3
      Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

      Is there some way to keep them from doing this throughout the game?

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      • DirtyJerz32
        All Star
        • Aug 2007
        • 7617

        #4
        Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

        Anyone else noticing this?
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        • hornfan
          Rookie
          • May 2003
          • 123

          #5
          Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

          Yeah. I have tried switching it but everytime I go back to CPU control it switches back. This could be the root of a lot of the coverage problems

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          • ralphieboy11
            Pro
            • Jul 2005
            • 543

            #6
            Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

            This is a really good find, and may be worthy of putting in the bugs glitches thread. I haven't been able to check it out yet.

            I was doing some testing last night and trying to figure out why coach mode plays so differently than cpu vs. cpu.

            I set it up so I was basically coaching both teams. I was calling plays for both, yet I didn't see a lot of the deep wide open receivers during that game.

            In cpu vs. cpu you will see some of the worst pass coverage you've ever seen. Receivers will occasionally just run right past a db.

            Maybe this is the reason.

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            • nortobc
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 1130

              #7
              Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

              This is exactly what is happening. When you start throwing short passes and completing them, the CPU switches to aggressive zone in order to stop the short passes. Then you can burn them on 4 verts.

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              • ralphieboy11
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 543

                #8
                Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                Originally posted by nortobc
                This is exactly what is happening. When you start throwing short passes and completing them, the CPU switches to aggressive zone in order to stop the short passes. Then you can burn them on 4 verts.
                I haven't been able to test this out for sure because I'm at work. If this is the case and we can't find a workaround, this needs to go in the bugs and glitches thread. It needs to be shouted from the rooftops, actually. This is a gamekiller for me.

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                • booker21
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4928

                  #9
                  I don't think this will fix the problem but worth the try. I'm saying this because this was always the case. And the deep ball was not an issue in all NCAA I believe

                  Practice doesn't have game plan and they still come closer to the LOS on deep balls. This started when. Ea added the new zones coverage were the DB will follow every player that enter their zone
                  I could be wrong though.

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                  English, is not my first language.

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                  • JoBo513
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 370

                    #10
                    Good find. This was an issue in '12 as well before the patches.

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                    • Ramminyou
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 1222

                      #11
                      Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                      Originally posted by booker21
                      I don't think this will fix the problem but worth the try. I'm saying this because this was always the case. And the deep ball was not an issue in all NCAA I believe

                      Practice doesn't have game plan and they still come closer to the LOS on deep balls. This started when. Ea added the new zones coverage were the DB will follow every player that enter their zone
                      I could be wrong though.

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                      Yeah and now that you mention it, aren't people seeing the same problems when playing online? If so that would have nothing to do with Gameplanning.

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #12
                        Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                        This may seem like a simple question but I'll say it anyway. The only play I've seen that you can consistently beat the cpu with deep is "four verticals". The other deep plays work occasionally but arent automatic. Now we expext EA will patch this but cant people just not use "four verts". This issue seems no different than just a money play issue.

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                        • shttymcgee
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 744

                          #13
                          Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          This may seem like a simple question but I'll say it anyway. The only play I've seen that you can consistently beat the cpu with deep is "four verticals". The other deep plays work occasionally but arent automatic. Now we expext EA will patch this but cant people just not use "four verts". This issue seems no different than just a money play issue.
                          No way.

                          It needs to be fixed.

                          The vertical plays in the playbooks don't even have route conversions, just locked vertical routes. Covering vertical threats is the number 1 thing that must be done in any zone defense.

                          3 vert/4 vert concepts are base concepts in almost any passing game philosophy and its unacceptable to suggest that those concepts should be avoided.

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                          • booker21
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 4928

                            #14
                            Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            This may seem like a simple question but I'll say it anyway. The only play I've seen that you can consistently beat the cpu with deep is "four verticals". The other deep plays work occasionally but arent automatic. Now we expect EA will patch this but cant people just not use "four verts". This issue seems no different than just a money play issue.
                            I´m sorry but what you are saying is not correct.

                            When the Defense calls Cover 2 and you send 1 streak the error may happen.

                            I have seen many plays (no 4 verticals) with this bug triggers.

                            Most of the time when you have 2 players on the same side , When the outside WR run a fly route it could happen.

                            For some reason the SS comes to the LOS to cover the slot WR, sometimes the SS will hesitate (stop, turn, stop, turn) when he go to the outside wr is too late, he beat the SS easily.

                            I´m 100 sure of this because like you, i assume, i don´t call 4 verticals anymore and this is still happening.

                            I Believe it is because the SS is closer to the Slot receiver when the play starts, so when the Slot receiver enters the SS area, he will come closer to the SS, not being aware of the Outside receive is running a Fly route. When the WR enters the SS cover zone area, is too late.

                            Make sense?
                            Last edited by booker21; 07-13-2012, 10:52 AM.
                            English, is not my first language.

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                            • terpsfan1978
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 63

                              #15
                              Re: Cpu aggressive zone defense

                              Ok...I was going to do a post about this. But you can burn the defense passing against cover 2 big time with vertical routes with outside receivers. I was playing as awful Boston College on heisman against Miami and my QB was splitting the gap between the corner and safety every time. The safety arrives way too late. You can thread it in every time, even with a loser QB on heisman.

                              Then I played as alabama against Michigan on heisman and the LSU corner tries to jam and gets burned, and then the safety gets burned. I thought Michigan corner had some poor rating on bump and run or man coverage, but it was high 88. Then I though my receiver was some stud, but he was 82 overall.

                              Also, the camera angle stinks. You can't see your outside receivers until a little later. You can't really read if it's a cover 2 or not until a little later. That's why I love Madden 12, the camera goes WIDE right off the bat so you can see if your outside receiver is going against man, cover 2, or getting jammed on the line.

                              New Note. This is awful. I did the vertical routes with Akron against LSU, and my QB was able to split the cover 2 between the corner and safety with outside receiver. And Akron sucks donkey balls.

                              Dunno if their is a glitch with the corner jamming or the safety not reacting quickly, or maybe just the shotgun set with empty backfield. Maybe their is a glitch with shotgun empty backfield or having the rb line up in slot.

                              This game stinks. They focus on stupid mascots, dreadlocks, and intro presentations instead of gameplay.
                              Last edited by terpsfan1978; 07-13-2012, 11:14 AM. Reason: shotgun, empty backfield

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