Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

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  • chi_hawks
    Beat the Heat!
    • Sep 2007
    • 301

    #61
    Bravo - couldn't agree anymore! Inredibly well written!

    You can still enjoy the game if you "overlook" all of these things, but after a while, it gets old.
    "Break the Rock"

    http://www.operationsports.com/chi_hawks/blog/

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    • PowerofRed25
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 1477

      #62
      Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

      Originally posted by AGG_JD
      Ok. It's official! OS is full of gamers that love to just scrutinize games!

      Many of these so called issues, I have not had any issues with. There are some issues, but nothing to say the game isn't worth playing. Football has never been a perfect game! So I don't expect every play to be perfect when playing this game. Option plays get busted up! QB to HB hand offs get muffed! These issues happen in real life, so what's the issue?

      A keyboard when paired with the internet obviously makes people feel they can critique any and everything and that their points are valid. SMH I don't see it.
      Wait, does your keyboard paired with your internet make your points any more valid than mine?

      I LOVE playing the game..... when it actually operates. I've had 13 freezes that required a hard reset so far, across any number of game modes. The corresponding corrupted hard drive has caused me to not even be able to load the disc without restarting my system. I love the game when it starts and doesn't freeze, but the freezes are a pretty big problem don't ya think?

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      • TDAWG89
        Banned
        • Jun 2011
        • 530

        #63
        Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

        Originally posted by AGG_JD
        Ok. It's official! OS is full of gamers that love to just scrutinize games!

        Many of these so called issues, I have not had any issues with. There are some issues, but nothing to say the game isn't worth playing. Football has never been a perfect game! So I don't expect every play to be perfect when playing this game. Option plays get busted up! QB to HB hand offs get muffed! These issues happen in real life, so what's the issue?

        A keyboard when paired with the internet obviously makes people feel they can critique any and everything and that their points are valid. SMH I don't see it.
        You aren't seeing it because you're most likely not looking. Like you said, you don't expect it to be perfect. It's never going to be perfect. But there a lot of people that think the game is not even "good" or that it's just average. The glaring problems don't stand out to you, but to us who actually want a better game, they do stand out and it makes us mad that the same old problems aren't being addressed while new ones are being found at the same time.

        Sure there might be a lot of criticism on here but that should give you a hint. Just because you don't see any problems doesn't mean they aren't there.

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        • Dr. Poe
          Rookie
          • Oct 2011
          • 72

          #64
          It's just the same game as always. I know this is about NCAA but Madden is the same. NFL 2k had maximum passing like 12 years ago. You could always determine if you lob or zip the ball. Pass trajectory is old. That is an old feature. EA is just now catching on.
          The line play has always sucked. I can take Suh in Madden and never get to the QB and then a generic nobody will lead the team in sacks.
          Cam Newton can't outrun linemen. Every time you try to get outside with a QB the defensive end or any lineman magically speeds up to tackle you.
          Play action is worthless.
          DBs and linebackers are still psychic. They still jump like superman.
          The game is no longer fun. It feels like a chore to play. EA needs to put fun back in it's games. Players should play realistic.
          Madden better be better.

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          • thevaliantx
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 369

            #65
            The only thing fun about Madden or the college football series is seeing your favorite team on the field for the first time. It goes downhill ... fast ... after that. (by the way, 'next gen' consoles aren't going to fix the issues we are seeing here, that's just wishful thinking)

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            • MacDiiddy
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 138

              #66
              Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

              Originally posted by gopher_guy
              Run/Pass Commit

              Defenses can also participate in a guessing game called run/pass commit, where correctly choosing one of four offensive scenarios (pass, run right, run left, run middle) results in the play getting blown up like a scene out of Tecmo Super Bowl. Essentially, Run/Pass Commit functions just like Jump The Snap, only without the risk of ever taking a penalty.

              With a 1:4 chance of guessing the right offensive setup and snuffing out the play, the odds in this gameplay mechanic are stacked largely in the defense's favor. At least in Tecmo Super Bowl the defense had only 1:8 odds of picking the right preplay setup.

              As some downs will force the offense into obvious passing situations, the "pass commit" option becomes foolproof at times since there's no directional guessing involved like there is in run plays.

              It's a mystery why this feature even exists. If the user wants to defend against a running play, why not just send blitzers into the gaps where the run is expected?

              Or if the user believes a pass is coming, what's wrong with simply choosing a traditional coverage scheme or an overload blitz to the quarterback's weak side?

              Why is it necessary to artificially enhance the defense's ability with a silly guessing mini game that can stifle any offensive play?

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              This one puzzles me. I feel like this is feature is pretty fair. You're telling your players to sell out to stop a specific play. 3rd and 29? Hey, they are probably going to pass, tell your defense to drop back because you know a pass is coming.

              And if you guess wrong you get destroyed. Especially if you guess run and it's a pass.
              Pass commit makes sense to me. I have been coaching high school ball for 7 years now, and we have calls to tell our defense to play pass first (which deepens our skinny skills and tells our d-line to get after the QB).

              The run commit is what I have a problem with. No one is going to say call a time out and say, okay they are going to run to the right. so everyone on the defense just sprint to that side on the snap of the ball.

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              • AGG_JD
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 27

                #67
                In response to those that quoted me, I do see some things that would make the presentation better as well as some added features could make the game better. There are a number of brilliant ideas in the forums, as well, in these comments. But to speak about this game not being worth purchase is ludicrous to me.

                It's a decent game. A better game for those who are not into football as much. It just appears that some people are presenting a large amount of hate for NCAA once again as if Madden was any better the past 5 years. I value reading people's opinions. It's just when they cross that line from stating opinions, to just down right being negative and hating.
                @AGG_JD #TeamAGG Bwahahahahaha

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                • Cardot
                  I'm not on InstantFace.
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6164

                  #68
                  Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

                  Originally posted by MacDiiddy
                  Pass commit makes sense to me. I have been coaching high school ball for 7 years now, and we have calls to tell our defense to play pass first (which deepens our skinny skills and tells our d-line to get after the QB).
                  But can't I already do that with nickel or dime personnel, and then making a pre-snap adjustment to drop the DB's back into loose coverage?

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                  • RandyBass
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1179

                    #69
                    Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

                    Five?

                    I counted about 30 in that article.

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                    • PowerofRed25
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1477

                      #70
                      Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

                      Originally posted by AGG_JD
                      In response to those that quoted me, I do see some things that would make the presentation better as well as some added features could make the game better. There are a number of brilliant ideas in the forums, as well, in these comments. But to speak about this game not being worth purchase is ludicrous to me.

                      It's a decent game. A better game for those who are not into football as much. It just appears that some people are presenting a large amount of hate for NCAA once again as if Madden was any better the past 5 years. I value reading people's opinions. It's just when they cross that line from stating opinions, to just down right being negative and hating.
                      You kind of glossed over the concern I brought to your attention.

                      How could I recommend someone purchase this game when it has frozen more times than it has finished games and it has ruined my Playstation?

                      I love 13 when it works, I loved playing NCAA 12 despite glaring problems. But we're past gameplay problems and server quirks now, this series is now to the point where it is unstable across all game modes. I will play this game until it absolutely prevents me from doing so, but after another freeze and corresponding failure to load the disc tonight, I am up to 14 freezes.

                      There is a 31 page thread of people with the exact same problems, many of the people in it have already gotten rid of the game. If you posed the question, "Would you recommend this game to someone who has held off buying it" in that thread, I guarantee you would receive 0 yes responses.

                      If these problems are fixed, then absolutely this game is fantastic and well worth it. But I'm going to need a new PS3 because of this game ruining my current one before these patches are even released.

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                      • DarthLeon
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 78

                        #71
                        Originally posted by OGKing
                        NCAA 13 is the best NCAA game i've ever played. It's heaps better than 12, 11, etc..

                        I guess it's because of the new passing, and it feels more smoother.
                        Oh yeah, 13 is definitely better by leaps and bounds. Certainly the best it has ever been.

                        In other news, I'm in the best mental state I've ever been. I used to be committing genocide on a daily basis; Now I only kill a guy once a week or so. Now that's progress!

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                        • SECElit3
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5553

                          #72
                          Well written article... Thanks!

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                          • Gap Integrity
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 853

                            #73
                            Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

                            I'd say if your into buying an incomplete product and having to wait for updates before it's playable, then this is for you. I feel sorry for the guys who buy the game and don't play online. They'd be screwed. That'd be like buying a top shelf cambodian hooker and then come game time you find out its a herm with VD and your on Dateline. ouch.
                            "Statistics always remind me of a fellow who drowned in a river where the average depth was three feet." -Woody Hayes

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                            • Knight9299
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 134

                              #74
                              Re: Five Reasons to Hold off on Buying NCAA Football 13

                              Originally posted by DarthLeon
                              Oh yeah, 13 is definitely better by leaps and bounds. Certainly the best it has ever been.

                              In other news, I'm in the best mental state I've ever been. I used to be committing genocide on a daily basis; Now I only kill a guy once a week or so. Now that's progress!
                              Your point is what seems to fly over a lot of the people's heads who say "This game is fine, quit looking so closely" Those of us who look so close, see these issues that have been in the game for years and wonder why haven't they been addressed. Defenses will now react to 3x1 or twins formations out of the huddle, but STILL can't put the Sam linebacker on the TE in under? The front 7 seven don't have play any sort of gap control? With the new physics engine, I know these things won't be addressed as they will have their hands fill implementing that and making sure the implementation doesn't render other things unplayable.

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                              • Foechuckle
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 39

                                #75
                                Its funny, if your a football fanatic your gonna buy NCAA or Madden or like me both yeah both games has flaws what game doesn't that uses the same regurgitated game engine from years past. Its unfortunate that EA has turned themselves into a monopoly and has legally gained exclusive rights to the NFL licence and now the partnership with the UFC praying they won't mess that up too???.....Back to my point all the people that are trolling just stop complaining and do something about it we all know what problems NCAA and MADDEN have too the ones that complain we know you will be in the mid-night release line getting MADDEN 13 undercover playing on a bogus account hating it but enjoying it.

                                Also, those of you expecting the NEXT generation to have leaps and bounds over the generation consoles??? Think again don't expect anything over the top graphics will look better yeah but not by much no matter what console gaming will never catch up to what a PC can do graphically and performance wise even with a **** graphics card for PC with the configuration settings on Low PC will win. Yes, I console game and I don't have a high end PC but I do put together gaming rigs for people lowest price rang $500 and that's after TAXES played BATTLEFIELD 3 on Lowest settings still looked 20x better than Xbox 360 and PS3!!!
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