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  • StrawHat Patriot
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 876

    #106
    Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

    Well only extended one year to the license back in 2011 and I heard from some posters that EA was unhappy with the NFL in general in terms of the money, which could lead to, I don't know, a dispute/holdout/whatever would realistically happen in this type of situation.

    So, there's a reason to be optimistic.

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    • chi_hawks
      Beat the Heat!
      • Sep 2007
      • 301

      #107
      EA's stock has been tanking. The company is hurting. Losing another 30 mil, in addition to the investment they made in UFC (which I think will flop) could spell the end for these guys.
      "Break the Rock"

      http://www.operationsports.com/chi_hawks/blog/

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      • shaunlmason
        Pro
        • Nov 2002
        • 745

        #108
        Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

        Originally posted by Big FN Deal
        Be of good cheer my friend, there was no need to include the NFL exclusive because EA ain't renewing that one anyway. #http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/530621-beware-ides-march-nfl-exclusive-license.html
        I think you are wrong my friend. I know nothing you don't but I would think that EA wouldn't have settled if they were not going to renew the NFL license. If they weren't going to renew, they wouldn't have given up exclusive rights to everything else and settled, they would have just let the court declare it a monopoly and moved on.

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        • SA1NT401
          Banned
          • Sep 2007
          • 3498

          #109
          Hope this all points to the DEATH of exclusivity in sports gaming.... Forever!

          I'll gladly take my cash too....

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          • Big FN Deal
            Banned
            • Aug 2011
            • 5993

            #110
            Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

            Originally posted by Shaun Mason
            I think you are wrong my friend. I know nothing you don't but I would think that EA wouldn't have settled if they were not going to renew the NFL license. If they weren't going to renew, they wouldn't have given up exclusive rights to everything else and settled, they would have just let the court declare it a monopoly and moved on.
            I see your point but I think the settlement was more about paying out a lower dollar amount for the "price fixing" than about relinquishing control of the exclusive licenses. I believe they were going to stop paying for exclusive licenses anyway, including the NFL exclusive, as a business decision but they settled this to avoid going to trial and potentially paying out far more money for restitution.

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            • SLVRBLCKATTACK
              Banned
              • Jun 2012
              • 11

              #111
              Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

              Originally posted by chi_hawks
              EA's stock has been tanking. The company is hurting. Losing another 30 mil, in addition to the investment they made in UFC (which I think will flop) could spell the end for these guys.
              were so doomed as a country, I have no idea how to even respond to this statement

              EA posted $83 million in net income (PROFIT!!!) last quarter (ONE 3 MONTH PERIOD). Which include only these console games, Mass Effect 3, FIFA Street 4, SSX, and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

              I am sorry for insulting you, but two minutes of work could of kept you from looking like an idiot.
              Last edited by SLVRBLCKATTACK; 07-21-2012, 05:47 PM.

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              • jWILL253
                You know why I'm here...
                • Jun 2008
                • 1611

                #112
                Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                Originally posted by SLVRBLCKATTACK
                were so doomed as a country, I have no idea how to even respond to this statement

                EA posted $83 million in net income (PROFIT!!!) last quarter (ONE 3 MONTH PERIOD),

                I am sorry for insulting you, but two minutes of work could of kept you from looking like an idiot.
                Calm down, bro. Every major corporation promotes a net profit, as well as a loss, for every quarter...
                jWILL

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                • DeuceDouglas
                  Madden Dev Team
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4297

                  #113
                  Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                  Originally posted by chi_hawks
                  EA's stock has been tanking. The company is hurting. Losing another 30 mil, in addition to the investment they made in UFC (which I think will flop) could spell the end for these guys.
                  I saw a tweet that said this settlement is worth about half of what EA made off Madden Ultimate Team last year alone. EA's not going anywhere.
                  Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 07-21-2012, 05:53 PM.

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                  • SLVRBLCKATTACK
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 11

                    #114
                    Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                    Originally posted by jWILL10
                    Calm down, bro. Every major corporation promotes a net profit, as well as a loss, for every quarter...
                    I am not mad, but damn the guy believes this company losing maybe 40 mil is going to break them, that is just sad

                    Now Star Wars crashing that is going to hurt them

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                    • chi_hawks
                      Beat the Heat!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 301

                      #115
                      Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                      Originally posted by SLVRBLCKATTACK
                      were so doomed as a country, I have no idea how to even respond to this statement

                      EA posted $83 million in net income (PROFIT!!!) last quarter (ONE 3 MONTH PERIOD). Which include only these console games, Mass Effect 3, FIFA Street 4, SSX, and Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

                      I am sorry for insulting you, but two minutes of work could of kept you from looking like an idiot.
                      Funny thing you mention looking things up before posting - because thats exactly what I did. Its nice being able to read through SEC documents on all companies.

                      Long story short, here is the net income after tax (which is what matters) for EA over the last 3 quarters:

                      Q3 2011: -340 million
                      Q4 2011: -205 million
                      Q1 2012: 400 million

                      I don't have Q2 for this year, but regardless, the companies income after taxes, over 9 of the last 12 months, is -145 million.

                      Now, they have another 30 million plus lawyer fees to pay.

                      Also, read my post better next time chief. It didn't say that this alone was going to bankrupt them. I said that this, in addition to the money they spent on UFC license (which I think will fail) may signal the end for EA.

                      There is a reason this companies stock is at its lowest levels in almost 20 years and was rated as the most hated company in America. Maybe they can turn it around - idk? Paying 30 mil in penalties isn't a good start though.

                      In case anyone wants to see more info on the trainwreck that is EA:

                      http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:EA

                      Last edited by chi_hawks; 07-21-2012, 06:52 PM.
                      "Break the Rock"

                      http://www.operationsports.com/chi_hawks/blog/

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                      • chi_hawks
                        Beat the Heat!
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 301

                        #116
                        Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                        Originally posted by SLVRBLCKATTACK
                        I am not mad, but damn the guy believes this company losing maybe 40 mil is going to break them, that is just sad

                        Now Star Wars crashing that is going to hurt them
                        Could spell the end <> bankrupt. Perhaps I could have worded this a little better....EA is in trouble, has been in trouble, and this doesn't help.

                        It is funny how pissed this appears to have gotten you, though. Almost like your a hedge fund manager and you have some portfolios heavy leveraged in EA stock. Regardless, its kind of amusing.

                        Also, welcome to OS (I see you just recently joined).
                        Last edited by chi_hawks; 07-21-2012, 06:57 PM.
                        "Break the Rock"

                        http://www.operationsports.com/chi_hawks/blog/

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                        • scoonie05
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 493

                          #117
                          Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                          bankrupt?? Lol....

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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #118
                            Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                            Originally posted by chi_hawks
                            Could spell the end <> bankrupt. Perhaps I could have worded this a little better....EA is in trouble, has been in trouble, and this doesn't help.

                            It is funny how pissed this appears to have gotten you, though. Almost like your a hedge fund manager and you have a lot of your clients heavily invested in EA stock. Regardless, its kind of amusing.

                            Also, welcome to OS (I see you just recently joined).
                            Are you really surprised someone called you on predictions EA would fail because they settled a lawsuit for $27m with none of the context you decided to add after the fact? Context that shows that quarterly they are trending very favorably in the black so pardon us if it doesn't do a whole lot to convince many who bother to read it.

                            EA lists $5.4b in assets on it's balance sheet, $1.8b of that in cash and short term investments. UFC could get cancelled and this lawsuit could be for 10x this amount and EA wouldn't be going anywhere.

                            Could they be better positioned? Certainly, but the entire industry is pretty depressed, an industry in which they're a pretty big player, their stock reflects that volatility.

                            Bankrupt? In trouble? Hardly.
                            Last edited by mestevo; 07-21-2012, 07:07 PM.

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                            • scoonie05
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 493

                              #119
                              Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                              If he consider EA in trouble, what does he consider TAKE two aka 2k which is hurting more then EA??

                              http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:TTWO

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                              • chi_hawks
                                Beat the Heat!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 301

                                #120
                                Re: $27 Million Settlement Announced in EA Madden Price-Fixing Lawsuit

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                Are you really surprised someone called you on predictions EA would fail because they settled a lawsuit for $27m with none of the context you decided to add after the fact? Context that shows that quarterly they are trending very favorably in the black so pardon us if it doesn't do a whole lot to convince many who bother to read it.

                                EA lists $5.4b in assets on it's balance sheet, $1.8b of that in cash and short term investments. UFC could get cancelled and this lawsuit could be for 10x this amount and EA wouldn't be going anywhere.

                                Could they be better positioned? Certainly, but the entire industry is pretty depressed, an industry in which they're a pretty big player, their stock reflects that volatility.

                                Bankrupt? In trouble? Hardly.
                                No, not surprised. Could have worded it more appropriately (notice hes banned now).

                                Anyway, regarding EA's cash reserves as a backup for no quarterly income, if a company has to dig into its cash reserves to pay its bills, employees and dividends, its generally frowned up. Look at Sony. They have what, 21 bn in cash reserves, and it doesn't matter. They have been losing, their stock is at early 90's levels (much like EA). The market and investors are concerned - which directly coorelates to their market value and what folks are willing to pay for a share of their stock. Same applies for EA.

                                Will Sony continue to be able to pay dividends and get by? Sure. For a long time, I suppose. But if I had to make a roadmap from here to the end for Sony, it would look a lot like what is going on with them right now. Same with EA. It is a good sign for them that they were in the black the last 2 quarters though, but I think that breaks them even over a 1 year period. Not exactly what you'd like to see from the industry giant.
                                "Break the Rock"

                                http://www.operationsports.com/chi_hawks/blog/

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