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  • btemp
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    • Mar 2010
    • 160

    #241
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

    Originally posted by ozzy57
    You know I don't why everyone hates them being rated high each team carries 3 QB's so thats 96. Out of 96 QB's shouldn't the starters be highly rated I mean seriously if you went on a 1 point scale with each QB being slightly less and started at 99 the lowest QB would be rated a 4.
    You're missing the point.

    First of all, then what's the point of all QB's being rated the same (as it currently is)? The only really tangible difference between QB's is scrambling ability.

    You have a 99 point scale, use it! What's wrong with your 3rd string QB being 42 OVR? What's wrong with your starting QB being 72? That's the first step on players playing as individuals with notable differences on the field.

    The point isn't that starting QBs should be rated higher than backups, of course. Its that there is a 99 point scale that needs to be used.

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    • ozzy57
      Rookie
      • May 2009
      • 252

      #242
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

      Originally posted by btemp
      You're missing the point.

      First of all, then what's the point of all QB's being rated the same (as it currently is)? The only really tangible difference between QB's is scrambling ability.

      You have a 99 point scale, use it! What's wrong with your 3rd string QB being 42 OVR? What's wrong with your starting QB being 72? That's the first step on players playing as individuals with notable differences on the field.

      The point isn't that starting QBs should be rated higher than backups, of course. Its that there is a 99 point scale that needs to be used.
      After being in an nba forum for a little bit I believe it was confirmed the NBA doesn't like players being rated below a 50 maybe one or 2 and if the NFL does the same thing then you are going to have a high end scaling. I'm all for spreading out ratings but only 9/96 QB's are 90 or higher thats not bad not 1/10th of the players are above a 90. I understand wanting to spread out ratings but only JaMarcus Russell should have a rating lower then a 45 he should be the first overall 1

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      • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
        Next Miami Great
        • Dec 2008
        • 4285

        #243
        Homer but I don't think Stafford is better then Ryan. Ryan's has had consistent seasons as a very good QB. His only knock is he hasn't won a playoff game, which Stafford hasn't either.

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        • speedy9386
          Pro
          • Mar 2009
          • 828

          #244
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

          Originally posted by ozzy57
          After being in an nba forum for a little bit I believe it was confirmed the NBA doesn't like players being rated below a 50 maybe one or 2 and if the NFL does the same thing then you were going to have a high end scaling. I'm all for spreading out ratings but only 9/96 QB's are 90 or higher thats not bad not 1/10th of the players are above a 90. I understand wanting to spread out ratings but only JaMarcus Russell should have a rating lower then a 45 he should be the first overall 1
          If the ratings were spread out then the overalls would have different meaning than they do now. What you see now as a 45 being abysmal, with spread out ratings would be slightly more acceptable. It would truly show the difference between an elite player and your everyday average player. As of right now you don't need Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson to have a good passing attack all you need is a slot reciever with decent speed.
          Last edited by speedy9386; 08-01-2012, 04:19 PM.

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          • ozzy57
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 252

            #245
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

            Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
            Homer but I don't think Stafford is better then Ryan. Ryan's has had consistent seasons as a very good QB. His only knock is he hasn't won a playoff game, which Stafford hasn't either.
            Even though you are a homer you and this thread and NFL analyst prove my point there is no Top 10 list that everyone agrees with even being unbiased people won't agree with the Top 10 so you are going to see ratings closely bunched and I don't mind that really yea I want individuals but the players that start are suppose to be and I use the term "Suppose" loosely the best QB's in the game.

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            • Champion8877
              MVP
              • Apr 2011
              • 1518

              #246
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

              Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              Homer but I don't think Stafford is better then Ryan. Ryan's has had consistent seasons as a very good QB. His only knock is he hasn't won a playoff game, which Stafford hasn't either.
              Matt Ryan's deep ball, or lack of it, is probably the only thing holding him back from being above 90.

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              • goravens2052
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 772

                #247
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

                Originally posted by coogrfan
                Did Lee Evans inabillity to hold on to the ball in the end zone in the final minute of the AFCCG mean that Flacco "choked"? See how silly that sounds?

                It is possible for a team to lose a game without it being the QB's fault.

                Romo was one of the very few Cowboys who didn't embarass himself in the season ending loss @ NY (29-37 289 yds 2 tds 1 int). This despite having no running game (46 yds) and having to run for his life all game long as the NYG pass rushers overwhelmed the pathetic Cowboy o-line. The reason Dallas lost was because the D completely failed to show up, allowing Eli to go 24 of 33 for 346 3 tds - 0 int (NY also tacked on 106 yds and a td on the ground).

                Dallas trailed 21-0 at the half; Romo rallied them to 2 scores to make it 21-14 with 10 minutes remaining, only to watch the Giants march 75 yds for a fg with 5:50 to go that effectively put the game out of reach. NY would score another td after to make the final 31-14.

                Romo, as he had all season, played his heart out. Dallas lost because the team as a whole just wasn't good enough.
                "It is possible for a team to lose a game without it being the QB's fault"

                Well you have a point, and I'll concede you win the argument.

                I was just hoping we get enough arguments that EA would patch in the ability to edit ratings. As you can see EA, everyone has a different opinion on who should have the ratings and this is why you should have never took out the ability to Edit Ratings, let the Users decide if they want to move ratings up and down, not this voting thing.

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                • Jimi XIII
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 452

                  #248
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

                  Originally posted by btemp
                  Sigh.

                  Rather than arguing about a 3 point spread which has NO IMPACT IN GAME, why don't we talk about how ratings are clustered in a 15 point range which makes them near meaningless?

                  In real life, having Brady over Freeman makes a huge difference. In Madden, because there point totals are so close I am just as capable as winning it all with Freeman as Brady.

                  This is the problem, not Romo being a 93 or 89.
                  Right. Now the only sports games I still play are Madden, NBA2K and NFL 2K games that have ratings and in those 2K games ratings are extremely spread out and seriously give players their unique skill sets. In Madden they try so hard to make sure players get their overalls high enough they end up giving players the same feel. Plus as you mentioned that ends up also making so many players similar.

                  One of the worst examples of this comes from the CB position to me. Almost any CB can play like Charles Woodson since his ratings aren't too much different from a guy like Winfield who plays the position well, but not the way Woodson does.

                  In NFL2K, they weren't afraid to had out 50 overalls, and that wouldn't even mean the play is complete trash some times, but his weaknesses are just very weak but may have a strength or two you can still use. You just don't get that with Madden due to various issues but ratings is a part of that.

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                  • Find_the_Door
                    Nogueira connoisseur
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 4051

                    #249
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

                    Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                    Homer but I don't think Stafford is better then Ryan. Ryan's has had consistent seasons as a very good QB. His only knock is he hasn't won a playoff game, which Stafford hasn't either.
                    14 completions of 20 yards or more on the season aren't going to cut it in the NFL. Matt Ryan has more than just lack of playoff success to overcome, he's got a bit of an issue dumping it off.
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                    • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                      Next Miami Great
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4285

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Batum Shaka Laka
                      14 completions of 20 yards or more on the season aren't going to cut it in the NFL. Matt Ryan has more than just lack of playoff success to overcome, he's got a bit of an issue dumping it off.
                      95tds 46ints 88qb for a career. Looks like he's doing pretty well in the NFL. Sure he needs to go deep more but to say it isn't cutting it is simply false.

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                      • Find_the_Door
                        Nogueira connoisseur
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4051

                        #251
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

                        Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                        95tds 46ints 88qb for a career. Looks like he's doing pretty well in the NFL. Sure he needs to go deep more but to say it isn't cutting it is simply false.
                        He's been "good" but a little too safe for me, I'd take...

                        1. Rodgers
                        2. Brees
                        3. Brady
                        4. Peyton
                        5. Romo
                        6. Stafford
                        7. Roethlisberger
                        8. Cutler
                        9. Newton

                        Over him
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                        • hockeysbadboy
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 4

                          #252
                          i'd take tebow....hasn't anyone seen this guy play?

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                          • hockeysbadboy
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4

                            #253
                            is tebow the greatest college football player ever....? probably. Is he like twice as good as tom brady or aaron rodgers or any of these guys...? obviously...Madden really dropped the ball on ratings with this guy. He should be at least a 120 or something (which is think is the highest any madden player has ever been) and the next quarterback down...probably kevin kolb or one of those perennial pro bowlers should be like a 75. Peyton should be a 50 and tom brady should jump off a cliff

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                            • hockeysbadboy
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 4

                              #254
                              Who would you take...Tebow or Matt Stafford.

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or Jermoe Bettis

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or Tony Gonzalez

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or Ray Lewis

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or various unidentified religious figures

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or Medicaid

                              TEBOW

                              Tebow or Digestive Relief Tea...

                              well that unfortunately goes to the Tea. Unless the Jets start Tebow then I will literally Cr@p my pants

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                              • Dally_D
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 55

                                #255
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Player Ratings - Top 10 Quarterbacks

                                Stafford should be 94 or 95 as for big ben way overrated he should be 90 maybe lower

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