NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjusted

[BallinVol]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Wrong... The tuner did not effect any animations or player interactions. It affected reaction to the option. You guys are getting pretty ridiculous.

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Placebo effect or not, what's ridiculous is bashing people's thoughts, theories, etc. on what THEY are seeing. If THEY are seeing it, then why say THEY are getting ridiculous with what THEY are seeing and report on it? Either way, the track record is there. Any time that EA has EVER tuned or patched anything, something else is affected. Or is that Placebo?

[khaliib]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Wrong... The tuner did not effect any animations or player interactions. It affected reaction to the option. You guys are getting pretty ridiculous.

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So as a Gamechanger, you're statement is that any alterations to internal player programming or even external player ratings, have "No" affect on Animations nor drive when/which should play out during any given situation of gameplay?

Wasn't the adjustment done to clean up the Option Gameplay that's still not playing out as intended?

NCAA 13 is still centered around Canned Animations, correct?

If so, that means Offensive "Blockers" for the Option must be pre-programmed to enter a Blocking Animation with a Def player so that Gameplay doesn't look goofy with players moving about without purpose (aka a bug).

Just like the DL, LB's are the next layer of players that "Must" enter some form of a Blocking Animation for Option Gameplay to Animate smoothly.

More than one LB simply have to be pre-programmed into a Blocking Animation for it to look/play right.

More so since players are not animating on a Physics Engine that allows them to not be so pre-linked. (ie Canned Animated)

Adjust the Run Defense to 100, and everyone will attack the run before the RB gets the ball no matter the level.

So if the Slider was able to make this adjustment, what about LB's Reaction alone, was in error?

Why not the secondary also since they're all so linked together?

As someone who's supposed to be a vocal extension for Gamers to developers to improve a game, I hope this isn't the thinking (it's all just ridiculous placebo babble) that's applied to many of the gamers findings/thoughts/suggestions by those participating in the Gamechanger Program.

Especially since the history of EA's tweaks/tuners are always so vague about how exactly they will affect things across the board.

[TheShizNo1]

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How does blocking affect a linebacker that is unblocked pursuing a play? There are not several things different its in your head. You guys kill me with your assumptions. Placebo effect running rampant.

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LB's read the Oline. At least they should be. Before anything else in a play happens, that's there key. Like someone else said, if it isn't set up the way (obviously not) something else is messed up. I would also think it would do something to pursuit angles.

I'm not saying someone is right or wrong, but people are bringing up good points.

[thelasthurtknee]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Wrong... The tuner did not effect any animations or player interactions. It affected reaction to the option. You guys are getting pretty ridiculous.

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so as a game changer explain why you know this please. is there a hidden attribute that effects only what happens on option plays? i dont see that attribute in my players abilitys. there is not one for defending option. so is there something that we dont see thats programmed internally for the option? if they improved the awarness on run plays or pursuit wouldnt effect all runs even if the point was just to improve read and react to the option. im just wondering how you know that this only effects the option run. wouldnt this also effect choice option? i dont see how this would effect one type of run play and not others. but im sure you know as your in the loop. a lot of guys are being pretty descriptive with what they are seeing and your just bashing without supporting it with proof. and if your proof is just that ea said it. well you in the wrong spot if your looking for believers in them.

and just to add one other thing. im pretty sure we all hated the tuners last year because they messed up other things when they tried to fix something else. thats why we hated them and they caused so many issues. i pretty sure we even had a patch to fix a patch.

[thelasthurtknee]

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Even if a developer came on here and said that it hasn't been touched, you will never convince me that recruiting hasn't been tuned. I've done several seasons of recruiting, and for the first time after this latest tuner, the CPU is way more aggressive in offering scholies to players. Never before in the second week of the season did any player on my board have 8, or 4 or even 3 offers that quickly. Even the players who I've scouted out to be a "Bust" still have multiple offers now. This ain't no placebo.

this interesting and a very good thing if so. ive been very worried about how easy it is to recruit very good players late in season because they dont have offers or only 1. this was much needed. maybe the gamechanger guy can fill us in or atleast find out.

[ncaa13]

Dumb LB were not broke its the CB that just slide and stare at the runner running by them. Another pointless update

[Chedapalooza]

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Dumb LB were not broke its the CB that just slide and stare at the runner running by them. Another pointless update

Although I COMPLETELY agree that the cb standing still issue is there, I believe it could be bc certain defenses dictate that corners man up on a particulAr offensive player.. So they won't react to the ball cArrier if it Isnt their Man.. Stupid, yes. Make sense, yes. Should it be this way? No

[TheResurrection]

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Safe to say this tuner update didnt work and possibly made things worse. Auburn vs CPU Alabama, I just ran 3 wishbone power options in a row, untouched, 50+ yards to the house - LBs didnt attack the QB or pitch man at all.

[Buckeye Country]

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How do you get the tuner? I do not get prompted to download it.

[Chedapalooza]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

The tuner applied to already active dynasties?

[Matt10]

Re: NCAA Football 13 Tuner Update Released, Coach Trust Points and LB Reaction Adjust

Some good conversations in here. Interesting findings and theories. I also believe in canned animations. And the key with that is the fact that there must always be a balance. If one slider value is changed, another value has to adjust to compensate for it's increase/decrease. This is how it has always been with NCAA/Madden - and since the introduction of sliders, it has remained. So there is no surprise that the effectiveness of the tuner will be compensated by a rate of increase or decrease in animation speed/reaction. Ever wonder why when you increase a penalty slider like face-mask or roughing the passer...it prompts the animation to occur more often?

I also find it interesting that a gamechanger quickly dismisses any type of theory that isn't per described by EA's game plan. With great power, comes great responsibility. That color in a gamechanger's name is supposed to represent us as the community and our thoughts that go along with it, whether they are agreed upon or not.

We are supposed to align - side by side - with our thinking, and if it is to be thought otherwise - then theories need to be proved that supports dismissal - After all, to be a gamechanger do you not have to prove yourself in the first place?

Furthermore, to be a gamechanger do you really need to have a different color in your name? [Insert "A Few Good Men" quote here].

[ncaaballerUSC]

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I love NCAA football. But am I the only one who thinks this game is as buggy as a Bethesda game!? How hard is it to program a football game that's been around for 20 years now and can't fix simple bugs.

You know what needs to be FIXED, when you downplay another team who has a D and your team is an A+, you shouldn't get a big fat ZERO! as while your recruiting.

Also, game freezes! I have to reset the game daily! I have a couple but these are major to me. The game recap after you finish a game during online dynasty, if it doesn't upload, the game freezes. While managing highlights during the game it freezes...

Another issue, when the games over and you review the game. Why does it seperate the teams scores by team rather than in order points were scored, that's annoying.

Wrs not attempting to catch the football when their icon is showing and you throw it to them, they don't jump, u press the jump button or hold it down and it does nothing.

And the last one ill complain about is WHY DON'T U SHOW THE COMPLETE REPLAY!!!!!??? AAAHHHH!!! how many great interceptions with 10 broken tackles that's returned for 113 yard touchdown are cut down to running from the 20 hardline and scoring...... Come on EA! U use to show the entire replay back in 09! Why cut the replay to 5 seconds. I don't have many replays saved due to key moments not being captured due to only showing the td Being ran in rather then the rest of the epic play

[ncaaballerUSC]

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Also fix the custom playbooks! I don't have access during games/practice, to formations I specifically put in my playbook! It only put a few of them. Am I the only one complaining bout this stuff for the ps3??? I don't demand perfection but come on. It's the same format year after year of programming.

[K0ZZ]

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I love NCAA football. But am I the only one who thinks this game is as buggy as a Bethesda game!? How hard is it to program a football game that's been around for 20 years now and can't fix simple bugs.

You know what needs to be FIXED, when you downplay another team who has a D and your team is an A+, you shouldn't get a big fat ZERO! as while your recruiting.

Also, game freezes! I have to reset the game daily! I have a couple but these are major to me. The game recap after you finish a game during online dynasty, if it doesn't upload, the game freezes. While managing highlights during the game it freezes...

Another issue, when the games over and you review the game. Why does it seperate the teams scores by team rather than in order points were scored, that's annoying.

Wrs not attempting to catch the football when their icon is showing and you throw it to them, they don't jump, u press the jump button or hold it down and it does nothing.

And the last one ill complain about is WHY DON'T U SHOW THE COMPLETE REPLAY!!!!!??? AAAHHHH!!! how many great interceptions with 10 broken tackles that's returned for 113 yard touchdown are cut down to running from the 20 hardline and scoring...... Come on EA! U use to show the entire replay back in 09! Why cut the replay to 5 seconds. I don't have many replays saved due to key moments not being captured due to only showing the td Being ran in rather then the rest of the epic play

First, just because the series had been around for twenty years, the current generation has been around about 7/8? Some bugs should've been fixed and such, not disagreeing there, but you can't diagnose the bug situation as a two decade thing.

I've noticed the second thing too but this is either a bug or the game not picking the right table to draw data from or not drawing data at all. Just don't pick a downplay that says 0-0, it isn't ideal but it's an easy workaround for now.

Freezing issues is on a case by case basis, I haven't had the game freeze once while others swear the game freezes every other game. It might be a faulty disc, issues with the code, etc. There is a huge amount of factors it could be and since in a sense it hits a niche market, without them getting a hold of the system and the same copy of the game, they are going to have a hard time figuring out the issue, it sucks for those that do have freezing issues but there is a good majority that don't and since it's not a unified issue it's not just a matter of looking where the code gives errors.

I do agree with the replay speech though.

[thelasthurtknee]

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if your having freezing issues then you need to unplug your 360/ps3 and see if it still does it. if not its your interent not holding a consistent connection. this is mostly the problem. if it still freezes and your on 360 its most likly your box. time for new one. the other thing it could be is a compatibility issue with the disc and your disc reader. the last 4 years this has been a issue with EA and the discs. they do make the discs in different places so switching discs can help. 90% of time its your internet. if your wireless then plug in a hardline. this helped mine last year and no more freezes since.