Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #1 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

[aloncho11]

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Konami has removed several options and player ratings from the game the past few years, to the detriment of the overall gameplay IMO. That's the bottomline as I see it.

Which stats are you referring to? I believe some have just changed name, the only one I can remember now that was removed was shot technique...

[NINJAK2]

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I am no where near the soccer fan that most are here and I don't possess half the knowledge about the rules/players/etc. that you guys have. Knowing all this I do dabble in playing the video game representation of it from time to time. After playing 4 games of this demo I must say I'm very impressed. I only played on the Regular setting so far but the teammate a.i. seems to be very good as far as moving to open spaces to receive passes or being in good defensive position. It was a little too easy to keep ball away from the D(Could be related to setting). I also think this game looks extremely good graphically(great camera selections) and animates very well. This game is certainly on my radar now.

[KG]

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Just now watching Mexico/Swiss game, Olympics. I have the broadcast on one laptop, side-by-side with my laptop with the PES 2013 demo running. I was wrong. PES colors and stadium lighting is much closer to real-life, practically spot on actually.

I always thought that their game looked very authentic with a good brnd of realism when it came too realism in the graphics department.

[Yeats]

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Which stats are you referring to? I believe some have just changed name, the only one I can remember now that was removed was shot technique...

After 2011, they removed the agility, shot technique, technique and aggression ratings, while adding a ball control rating. I can honestly say the thing that saved PES 2011 for me was globally raising the shot technique rating for all players in the game; it did away with all the moon-shot air balls that were commonplace in that game. When I heard they removed that rating in 2012, all the complaints about the "broken shooting" in 2012 made complete sense to me. It's the main reason I never bought that game.

[Yeats]

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I always thought that their game looked very authentic with a good brnd of realism when it came too realism in the graphics department.

Yes, I never appreciated that until I saw the demo and the real game side-by-side the other day. I was impressed.

[fugazi]

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After 2011, they removed the agility, shot technique, technique and aggression ratings, while adding a ball control rating. I can honestly say the thing that saved PES 2011 for me was globally raising the shot technique rating for all players in the game; it did away with all the moon-shot air balls that were commonplace in that game. When I heard they removed that rating in 2012, all the complaints about the "broken shooting" in 2012 made complete sense to me. It's the main reason I never bought that game.

I'm not sure how any game can be devoid of an "agility" rating...

And the two "techniques" were really central to each player's performance, it seemed.

I didn't play 2012, but I was puzzled they removed them.

[KG]

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I'm not sure how any game can be devoid of an "agility" rating...

And the two "techniques" were really central to each player's performance, it seemed.

I didn't play 2012, but I was puzzled they removed them.

What's the difference between body balance and agility?

One thing I'd like to see is more fouls called on follow-throughs when shooting. They are hardly ever called.

[RoyceDa59]

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What's the difference between body balance and agility?

One thing I'd like to see is more fouls called on follow-throughs when shooting. They are hardly ever called.

Found these on pesstats.

Body Balance essentially is a player's strength. Players with high Body Balance are more able to knock the opposition off the ball and to withstand tackles and other physical confrontations. A defender with high Body Balance would be more adept at using brute force to deal with the oppositions' attacks, and to overpower them and win the ball in that manner. Likewise, an offensive player with high Body Balance would be much more difficult to knock off the ball and more resilient in physical confrontations.

Agility determines how fast a player is at moving his body. A player with high Agility is more adept at making movements, such as turns, quickly. Agility is not, however, how well they move or how intelligent/skilled their movements are. Agility is related solely to the speed of their movements.

[aloncho11]

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After 2011, they removed the agility, shot technique, technique and aggression ratings, while adding a ball control rating. I can honestly say the thing that saved PES 2011 for me was globally raising the shot technique rating for all players in the game; it did away with all the moon-shot air balls that were commonplace in that game. When I heard they removed that rating in 2012, all the complaints about the "broken shooting" in 2012 made complete sense to me. It's the main reason I never bought that game.

Right, now I remember. You see, many of them are still there. Technique is now ball control, aggression which was the likelihood of a player making a forward/attacking run was replaced by the attack/defense awareness ratio, agility was combined with acceleration as one stat and is now explosive power (equivalent to quickness in other sports games). Shot technique was eliminated so that shooting was more direct by all footballers like in real life.

Remember that this game is Japanese, and they have a very different conception and interpretation of sports games, and when it comes to naming stats or attributes it can get tricky and many times aren't within the confines of traditional sports gaming...so some terms are not what they are in other Football or sports games.

[ezio]

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CPU Goal. I like how two players missed it before the finish

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Wish I meant to do this but it was purley accidental

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[Yeats]

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Right, now I remember. You see, many of them are still there. Technique is now ball control, aggression which was the likelihood of a player making a forward/attacking run was replaced by the attack/defense awareness ratio, agility was combined with acceleration as one stat and is now explosive power (equivalent to quickness in other sports games). Shot technique was eliminated so that shooting was more direct by all footballers like in real life.

Great explanation, thanks. The reason I specifically mentioned shot technique is because it's the one rating I feel that needs to be brought back. There doesn't seem to be anything in the game anymore that differentiates a player who can get off a good shot while off-balance, versus a player who doesn't have the skill to do the same. That's always been a defining aspect of this series and now it's not there. I think that's why the manual shooting in the demo feels so vanilla and uber-easy to me. There's no real sense one has to work to position the shooter properly before shooting.

[Yeats]

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Wish I meant to do this but it was purley accidental

Looked good! And never tell people it was an accident -- this is the internet, you don't have to tell the truth.

[aloncho11]

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Wish I meant to do this but it was purley accidental

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Nice one

[ezio]

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Looked good! And never tell people it was an accident -- this is the internet, you don't have to tell the truth.

Nice one

Thanks

and Yeats - In that case of course I meant to do it I was totally going for the chip

[Yeats]

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I found my own "fix" to tone down the CPU attack with an editing trick I use in FIFA 12. Using barcafan's roster editor, I pulled the CPU formation back as far as it would go, then changed players' registered positions to mostly all defensive (RB, CB, LB and DB). Attack mentality seems to be tied to position, to a degree anyway. The greater the number of CPU defensive players on the pitch, the more defensively the CPU team plays.

It also causes the CPU to pull more men back when attacked, flooding the CPU's box with extra defenders. Much tougher to get a shot off. And more realistic IMO as the rest of the players aren't just standing around 30 yards up the pitch watching their teammates defend, they're back helping out.