Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

[BadBoy7150]

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First, My point exactly. Secondly, Is this bolded quote true??

If this were true... Don't you thin Fantasy Draft would have made it in as well? Its a bit more complicated then just giving the user the ability to edit ratings my friend...

[XplosiveRunna26]

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Ignore him... He seems to be looking for a iFight.

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.....JKKK lighten up. I understood his point of view. I just expressed my opinion that Luck has yet to play a down, yet his ovr rating exceeds a someone who legitimatley took his team to the playoffs. They kind of shafted him. that's all.

[XplosiveRunna26]

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If this were true... Don't you thin Fantasy Draft would have made it in as well? Its a bit more complicated then just giving the user the ability to edit ratings my friend...

Touche'...

[LBzrule]

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This again. Wrong how so? The only thing wrong, imo, would be setting Luck's AWR or DPP better than Dalton's because Dlaton has proved that he can utilize his physical talent and skill sets at the NFL level, unlike Luck. However, that shouldn't keep Luckk's actual physical talent and skill sets from being rated higher than Dlaton's IF they actually are evaluated that way.

Yeah but how much of a distinction is DPP gonna make Big? It would be great if it did distinguish them but my bet is it does not. I'm not seeing the gradations in DPP applied to players that is implied in your statements. While I think DPP could be the factor that mitigates it, it probably will just not be visible enough to see or even feel. We'll see but I doubt it.

[CRMosier_LM]

.....JKKK lighten up. I understood his point of view. I just expressed my opinion that Luck has yet to play a down, yet his ovr rating exceeds a someone who legitimatley took his team to the playoffs. They kind of shafted him. that's all.

Dalton is a good QB but he isn't a beast... He manages the game well. Luck has a better arm, much better accuracy, better athletic ability and much more experience in a pro style offense. I see no issue with it personally.

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[Dj_MyTime]

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I understand sliders help (I use them), but they shouldn't have to be used to make players ratings differentiated. They should be used to make the game easier or harder if I am playing as a specific team.

I should be able to play a game on all-pro or even pro(the default setting) and be able to tell the difference between a Pro-Bowl QB, Mid Level QB, and a back-up.

But that is another topic for another thread.

Not saying I don't agree but that is why I'm happy we finally have sliders to balance out user vs user games.

[LBzrule]

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There is no way Flacco has as much arm strength as Stafford.

I might agree with you but based on what? I'm not into anecdotal statements about who has higher arm strength. I want research and that's what Jaws gives. So with that said, what evidence do you have that this is the case?

[PanthersGM305]

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Can someone explain to me why Brees Deep accuracy is only 84...

LOL Dayuumm Bountygate maybe, or his comments about Roger!!! LMAO hey am a non Aints fan, but he got robbed. I mean this guy broke Dan Marios passing record... wow Now Cam a 89 hmmm with AWR 74.Andrew Luck 84 WOW EA Donny slow down bruh. how is abrew luck a 84 Cam came in at 77 took him like 9 weeks before he got what he deserved after breaking rookie QB records set back in the day there was no color on the television.. C'mon man please i am glad OS posted this in a info before i go waste my money on EA inaccurate representation of NFL players ,

[XplosiveRunna26]

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I might agree with you but based on what? I'm not into anecdotal statements about who has higher arm strength. I want research and that's what Jaws gives. So with that said, what evidence do you have that this is the case?

Didn't Flacco throw 75 yards in the long distance throwing competition as a rookie?....that's pretty damn good imo.

[jmurphy31]

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Not saying I don't agree but that is why I'm happy we finally have sliders to balance out user vs user games.

True. At least we have slider options. I only play vs the CPU, so that's why I made my complaint.

[LBzrule]

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Didn't Flacco throw 75 yards in the long distance throwing competition as a rookie?....that's pretty damn good imo.

I think that is one piece of the puzzle. There is more though. There is the velocity not just on downfield passes that stretch the field, but also on routes like outs and ins. You are not going to find a QB in the league that has more zip on the deep out and deep in than Flacco. That's what jaws was getting at in his presentation and research. It's not just about how far you can throw it, but also zip and velocity on throws.

[XplosiveRunna26]

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I think that is one piece of the puzzle. There is more though. There is the velocity not just on downfield passes that stretch the field, but also on routes like outs and ins. You are not going to find a QB in the league that has more zip on the deep out and deep in than Flacco. That's what jaws was getting at in his presentation and research. It's not just about how far you can throw it, but also zip and velocity on throws.

No slight to Flacco but I honestly believe Vick has one the BEST zip/velocity in the NFL today.. My proof is in every game he's been in. (NFL game rewind)

[xman2k]

Wheres the "toughness/ability as game progresses" rating? Brees would top all.

[Big FN Deal]

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Yeah but how much of a distinction is DPP gonna make Big? It would be great if it did distinguish them but my bet is it does not. I'm not seeing the gradations in DPP applied to players that is implied in your statements. While I think DPP could be the factor that mitigates it, it probably will just not be visible enough to see or even feel. We'll see but I doubt it.

I definitely feel you on that, I was just trying to prevent the baby from being thrown out with the bath water. Meaning, AWR and DPP being tuned well enough to optimally differentiate how ratings play out should be the focus, not the fact that unproven players are capable of having higher physical and skill ratings than proven ones, which is realistic.

[LBzrule]

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No slight to Flacco but I honestly believe Vick has one the BEST zip/velocity in the NFL today.. My proof is in every game he's been in. (NFL game rewind)

That's based on your eye, which is no more credible than my eye looking at another QB. That's not proof, that's opining. We need quantifiable categories, again which Jaws provides, that would help us make the judgment.