Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

[Big FN Deal]

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That's based on your eye, which is no more credible than my eye looking at another QB. That's not proof, that's opining. We need quantifiable categories, again which Jaws provides, that would help us make the judgment.

Well maybe DCEBB will chime in on what data he used to reach the THP ratings for FBG. It looks like he has both Flacco and Vick at 91 THP.

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/index.php

I look at THP as how fast the player in Madden can get the ball down field and would measure it in MPH converted it into yards/feet per sec in-game. I have know idea how it's done in Madden or by others though.

[DNMHIII]

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LOL.......SOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAD!

Not being able to import custom rosters into CCM is even more damaging based on how bad these ratings are.

[joru100]

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I know he's not a good quarterback, but how in the hell is Christian Ponder's speed only 75, and acceleration 85, especially when Goldenboy Aaron Rodgers has 80 speed and 86 acceleration?

Christian Ponders' combine numbers are better than Rodgers' in the 40 yard dash, 20ss, 60ls, and 3-cone. He also has a higher yards per cary almost double that of Rodgers' even though you'd expect it would be easier for Rodgers to have the better rushing statistics when defenses are always expecting you to pass it deep.

A quick Youtube search for highlights will also show that Christian Ponder has ran faster in a few highlights than Aaron Rodgers has at any points in his entire life. The Texans preseason game, and the Bears games are good examples of this.

So like I said, I know Ponder isn't good, but credit should be given where credit is due, and a 75 speed rating and an 85 acceleration rating does not do Ponder justice. Even Luck as superior numbers despite his inferior combine numbers and he's a rookie.

[volstopfan14]

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lol at Matt Simms being a 61. No way he should be that high.

[DaBear23]

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ea should sack donny moore or whatever is name his, and higher this fbgrating guy. the fbgrating is impressive.

[Gaycandybacon]

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I know he's not a good quarterback, but how in the hell is Christian Ponder's speed only 75, and acceleration 85, especially when Goldenboy Aaron Rodgers has 80 speed and 86 acceleration?

Christian Ponders' combine numbers are better than Rodgers' in the 40 yard dash, 20ss, 60ls, and 3-cone. He also has a higher yards per cary almost double that of Rodgers' even though you'd expect it would be easier for Rodgers to have the better rushing statistics when defenses are always expecting you to pass it deep.

A quick Youtube search for highlights will also show that Christian Ponder has ran faster in a few highlights than Aaron Rodgers has at any points in his entire life. The Texans preseason game, and the Bears games are good examples of this.

So like I said, I know Ponder isn't good, but credit should be given where credit is due, and a 75 speed rating and an 85 acceleration rating does not do Ponder justice. Even Luck as superior numbers despite his inferior combine numbers and he's a rookie.

Ahem........, Before you insult my boy! It's not all about combine stats and do I mind you rodgers was in the combine 7 YEARS AGO LOL.. It's about what you do in pads. Ponder is indeed mobile, but can he escape sacks, run down the field, and throw on the run like Rodgers can? I think not! He doesn't even compare to what Rodgers can do on the field.

[joru100]

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Ahem........, Before you insult my boy! It's not all about combine stats and do I mind you rodgers was in the combine 7 YEARS AGO LOL.. It's about what you do in pads. Ponder is indeed mobile, but can he escape sacks, run down the field, and throw on the run like Rodgers can? I think not! He doesn't even compare to what Rodgers can do on the field.

holy S***, it's HOMER simpson

[Gaycandybacon]

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holy S***, it's HOMER simpson

You're right because Homer Simpson is yellow and the Packers are yellow. So you know I'm rocking that Homer Simpson face paint during Packer games.

[gzenius]

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Ahem........, Before you insult my boy! It's not all about combine stats and do I mind you rodgers was in the combine 7 YEARS AGO LOL.. It's about what you do in pads. Ponder is indeed mobile, but can he escape sacks, run down the field, and throw on the run like Rodgers can? I think not! He doesn't even compare to what Rodgers can do on the field.

i feel that and im not sayin i think ponder faster than rodgers cus i dont know.. but none of what you said should even factor in to the speed rating

[toolive50]

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Cheese galore with RGIII smh...

[Gaycandybacon]

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i feel that and im not sayin i think ponder faster than rodgers cus i dont know.. but none of what you said should even factor in to the speed rating

True. But, factoring combine stats into it is plain silly if thats from 7 years ago. I'm not being Homer Simpson lmao like that person posted above, but I truley believe Rodgers is more elusive than Ponder is. The speed of the QB should matter for his escape ablity, pocket pressence, getting away from pressure and running down the field.

[MattGarza13]

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Ahem........, Before you insult my boy! It's not all about combine stats and do I mind you rodgers was in the combine 7 YEARS AGO LOL.. It's about what you do in pads. Ponder is indeed mobile, but can he escape sacks, run down the field, and throw on the run like Rodgers can? I think not! He doesn't even compare to what Rodgers can do on the field.

I may be semi-biased because I'm a Bears fan that can not stand Rodgers, but I think Ponder is quicker and faster. Escaping sacks and throwing on the run has nothing to do with speed and agility. (Which I agree Rodgers is much better at.) Just straight running down the field Ponder has the edge on Rodgers. (Although Rodgers is a much better QB at this point in their careers obviously.)

[Gaycandybacon]

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I may be semi-biased because I'm a Bears fan that can not stand Rodgers, but I think Ponder is quicker and faster. Escaping sacks and throwing on the run has nothing to do with speed and agility. (Which I agree Rodgers is much better at.) Just straight running down the field Ponder has the edge on Rodgers. (Although Rodgers is a much better QB at this point in their careers obviously.)

Ok I gotcha, now that I think about it you could be right. Rodgers has that ablity to escape rushers better than most QBs. But doesn't have that straight line speed like the Vicks and Cams of the world.

[Willt_16]

Why is cams deep throw accuracy so low compared to two rookies???

[Big FN Deal]

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True. But, factoring combine stats into it is plain silly if thats from 7 years ago. I'm not being Homer Simpson lmao like that person posted above, but I truley believe Rodgers is more elusive than Ponder is. The speed of the QB should matter for his escape ablity, pocket pressence, getting away from pressure and running down the field.

I read a post like this and I picture people using it as some reasoning behind ratings must be subjective. I don't see how it's plain silly to use verifiable data for speed even from 7 years ago, if that's the only verifiable data that's available. Also why would Rodger being more elusive effect his speed rating when there is an actual elusiveness rating in Madden?

The thing is, Madden has certain skill ratings where the eye test should be factored in for access to animations and elusiveness is one of them, imo but not speed.

EDIT-Posted this before I saw your last reply.