Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

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  • Crazed69
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    • Aug 2012
    • 2

    #91
    Tebow should be a 80. Also you guys think agility is too low for some QBs? and throwing power for some QBs are out of this world!!

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    • Gaycandybacon
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      • May 2012
      • 154

      #92
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

      Originally posted by Big FN Deal
      I read a post like this and I picture people using it as some reasoning behind ratings must be subjective. I don't see how it's plain silly to use verifiable data for speed even from 7 years ago, if that's the only verifiable data that's available. Also why would Rodger being more elusive effect his speed rating when there is an actual elusiveness rating in Madden?

      The thing is, Madden has certain skill ratings where the eye test should be factored in for access to animations and elusiveness is one of them, imo but not speed.

      EDIT-Posted this before I saw your last reply.
      I understand where you're coming from. With the difference between speed and elusiveness thing. It's just my opinion that the combine proves nothing, because you're in shorts, no pads. If they have to use the combine stats cause they have nothing else then by god use it. It just shouldn't tell the whole story on a player. In 2005 they said Rodgers couldn't run and had no speed, his combine results were bad, But lone behold he can out run some NFL players today.
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      • OhioBuckeyes7
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        • Jun 2012
        • 53

        #93
        who cares it's a video game. in Real Life you really don't know who the strong arm is. here is what you do know Vick Pryor RG3 and Cam are Fast QB's. No need for them to get shafted. weather you played a NFL game or not. Fast QB's should not have speed lowered from college because they have not played. there fast. Cam newton threw some picks and RG3 is a Better passer than cam. so is luck. so they should be ratted better.

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        • OhioBuckeyes7
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          • Jun 2012
          • 53

          #94
          those 2 rookies are Better passer than cam. just saying.

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          • raiders81tim
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            • Jul 2009
            • 585

            #95
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

            Originally posted by OhioBuckeyes7
            those 2 rookies are Better passer than cam. just saying.
            No way of knowing that until they actually get a chance to play.

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            • Big FN Deal
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              • Aug 2011
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              #96
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

              Originally posted by Gaycandybacon
              I understand where you're coming from. With the difference between speed and elusiveness thing. It's just my opinion that the combine proves nothing, because you're in shorts, no pads. If they have to use the combine stats cause they have nothing else then by god use it. It just shouldn't tell the whole story on a player. In 2005 they said Rodgers couldn't run and had no speed, his combine results were bad, But lone behold he can out run some NFL players today.
              I can't discuss this with Donny Moore and the Madden ratings "team" so I will with you, lol. Combine data proves that the player is capable of doing those things tested in the time verified. Granted just because someone doesn't run a 4.24 40 doesn't mean they can't but if someone else does, it certainly proves they can. lol

              That's my point about verifiable data, it provides scientific evidence for what a player is capable of opposed to conjecture. The whole story should be a combination of all ratings and how they play out on the field together, not using what happens on the field as a basis for ratings in place of available verifiable data.

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              • Gaycandybacon
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                • May 2012
                • 154

                #97
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                Originally posted by OhioBuckeyes7
                those 2 rookies are Better passer than cam. just saying.

                Not to bite a piece of your last post and throw it in the garbage. But college and the NFL are at 2 completely different speed and difficulty levels. You can be better in one and not the other.
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                • OhioBuckeyes7
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                  • Jun 2012
                  • 53

                  #98
                  but all in all even though Rg3 and Luck are better overall passers my opinion. than Cam Newton who is a beast and a good passer breaking records pretty solid for a rookie last year. Newton should be at least a 85 or 81 deep throw ball. it will be updated during the season.

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                  • Gaycandybacon
                    Rookie
                    • May 2012
                    • 154

                    #99
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                    Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                    I can't discuss this with Donny Moore and the Madden ratings "team" so I will with you, lol. Combine data proves that the player is capable of doing those things tested in the time verified. Granted just because someone doesn't run a 4.24 40 doesn't mean they can't but if someone else does, it certainly proves they can. lol

                    That's my point about verifiable data, it provides scientific evidence for what a player is capable of opposed to conjecture. The whole story should be a combination of all ratings and how they play out on the field together, not using what happens on the field as a basis for ratings in place of available verifiable data.
                    You're certainly right about that. If you're fast you're fast, if you're slow you're slow.
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                    • Gaycandybacon
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                      • May 2012
                      • 154

                      #100
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                      Originally posted by OhioBuckeyes7
                      but all in all even though Rg3 and Luck are better overall passers my opinion. than Cam Newton who is a beast and a good passer breaking records pretty solid for a rookie last year. Newton should be at least a 85 or 81 deep throw ball. it will be updated during the season.

                      The main concern with rookie ratings is they're too high for rookies. Rated higher than a lot of vets. Simpily because they haven't shown anything in the NFL. And until they can backup their successful college careers, they shouldn't be rated as high as they are.
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                      • azdawgpound
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                        • Nov 2009
                        • 5533

                        #101
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                        Originally posted by xxDHAINESxx
                        I'm sorry, I know Brandon Weeden hasn't played a real NFL game yet and all, but COMON, he should not be rated lower than Colt McCoy!!! That's ridiculous, I don't mind them being close, but if Colt McCoy is a 75 then Weeden should be a 77 or higher imo. Not saying he should be a 77, just saying McCoy is not better than Brandon Weeden, end of story.

                        How many of you would play an online game with Colt McCoy starting for the Browns instead of Brandon Weeden, honestly? (silence)
                        well weeden woulda been lower except they gave him 2 more points on his MUT card he was only rated a 72 but i agree i'd take weeden over mccoy online anytime. i was waiting to see mccoy in low 60's to upper 60's since he didnt do much last yr. i just hope donny dosent over look browns like he did last yr with our defense and offense. gonna be fun with all new players we have to use online and off.

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                        • Colts18
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1959

                          #102
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                          Originally posted by jmurphy31
                          Rookie QBs shouldn't be rated in the mid 80s until they prove it on the field. With roster updates available every week during the season, it shouldn't be a big deal.

                          Brady probably has to have a stronger THP to keep his OVR high.
                          I don't understand why they feel the need to overrate rookies right out of the gate.

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                          • dmv dreadhead
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 3

                            #103
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                            its obvious these ratings are made to appease the fans of hype. nobody in their right mind would rate Luck and RGIII so high. also the ratings are way too bunched up, hire me as the ratings guru, this is ridiculous.

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                            • raiderphantom
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                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1537

                              #104
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                              Cam had a nice rookie year and he has a smoothe deep ball but his short/mid accuracy is not that good.
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                              • jmurphy31
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2803

                                #105
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

                                Remember when Reggie Bush came out there was ton of hype and his madden rating was set high. How did that work out his first year and typically RB have an easier adjustment than QB. (Though that trend seems to be changing).

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