Madden NFL 13 Screenshot - Walter Payton Sweetness #2

[Aggies7]

Looks good, wonder if the legends will actually play and move like themselves ?

I know it is just a screenshot but that looks like the cuts he makes.

As for screenshot. Looks great.

[slick589]

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Can that single snap chinstrap be applied to modern helmets?

Hopefully. I know they added a bunch of new equipment but since we cant edit hopefully they add do a better job replicating players real equipment

[DGuinta1]

Something looks off to me, don't know what though.

[wheelman990]

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I can't believe people can say this looks good. I usually let it go, but I want to show just how far off Madden player models are. To get these models to be even close to correct proportions, I had to greatly increase the body, and legs to match those giant heads, shoulders, and gorilla arms.

Here is EA's screenshot

Here is a little closer to reality

and here is somewhere between. Either way, it is a huge difference in size!!


I don't mean to be rude, but here is the evidence in front of everyone. These player models are still terrible.

I will say the art work inside the player models is pretty good and in some cases fantastic. These player models though should be a easy fix, it is mostly legs and body size work. I will agree though that the numbers need to be raised, and the faskmasks could be a little thicker if we are getting picky. I'm not a huge show, pad, etc kind of person...but I will agree the basic player models need to be right!

[DGuinta1]

I sure miss sweetness, but yea agree not liking this model.

[DGuinta1]

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like you just zoomed in on the second picture. Other than that, they all look the same to me.

Agree above post.

[wheelman990]

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Maybe it's just me, but it looks like you just zoomed in on the second picture. Other than that, they all look the same to me.

This is why most people wont notice a difference, its the same with audio. unless you are someone who really see's things, and even works in editing you wont even notice. Some peoples opinions are so off. No disrespect, it's just the way it is. If you can't see the difference in those photo's regarding player proportion, you should probably think twice before talking player models, it is HUGE!

I only increased size of the legs and body, everything is 100% untouched. The reason the field looks the same is it is. I just patched over the small areas around new legs where the old legs still showed.

Look how much larger the legs and body are, they go off the screen! It's the same photo. Anything over stomach wasn't touched. The point is to show how bad the player model proportions are. Look at EA's photo. It looks like gorilla arms, and midget legs. The body is so small it makes the numbers down on the stomach

[wheelman990]

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EXACT same photo, but I increased leg and body size ONLY so that they look proportioned to above the stomach areas. Look how much further the legs stretch off the screen!

To make it easy to see(hopefully)...the ONLY thing that was edited(only size adjustments) is everything inside the circle

[cuttingteeth]

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I work in film, so I understand what you mean about having an editor's eye...but, I also remember mentions of EA applying motion blur of sorts to this year. I think what we may be seeing in the picture is this code's attempt at depth-of-field. Payton is rather leaned forward (towards us) in the original pic, or at least that is the look it it trying to present..? It's almost got a fish-eye-lens effect...not fully...just a hint.

[StrawHat Patriot]

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EXACT same photo, but I increased leg and body size ONLY so that they look proportioned to above the stomach areas. Look how much further the legs stretch off the screen!

I agree. It's like the sleeves they've added, the arms are too long now and it looks ugly.

[wheelman990]

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I work in film, so I understand what you mean about having an editor's eye...but, I also remember mentions of EA applying motion blur of sorts to this year. I think what we may be seeing in the picture is this code's attempt at depth-of-field. Payton is rather leaned forward (towards us) in the original pic, or at least that is the look it it trying to present..? It's almost got a fish-eye-lens effect...not fully...just a hint.

Good eye, and that was a thought I had also with this photo. However, I've edited many different photo's of Maddens models and every time it looks better with slightly larger body's, and a good amount larger legs.

If we take a Maddens player model and were to stand them straight, hands to their sides, there finger tips would pretty much touch there knee's. I would say shorten the arms, but then the head and football is still too big. Easiest way is to expand legs and body IMO. This actually makes the helmet, arms, and football all proportion well with the rest.

I will agree that in this photo, field depth might be a slight cause of this photo looking worse then normal.

[cuttingteeth]

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Yeah, look at the ball, and then look at his helmet. Those are the closest things to us in the original pic. The depth-of-field aspects of what is behind those two areas is what does seem to be off just a little bit.

Oh, and looking even closer, now, everything "past" the ball and helmet do have some blur on them, with the background sideline and crowd being out of focus like real cameras.

[wheelman990]

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Yeah, look at the ball, and then look at his helmet. Those are the closest things to us in the original pic. The depth-of-field aspects of what is behind those two areas is what does seem to be off just a little bit.

Oh, and looking even closer, now, everything "past" the ball and helmet do have some blur on them, with the background sideline and crowd being out of focus like real cameras.

It's not just this screenshot, it is all of them.


And if your theory was correct, then his left arm should be much smaller then his right, and his right leg much smaller then his left. Sad truth is, it's all out of wack.

[DGuinta1]

Glad I don't notice as much in games as some of you though I can understand the frustration. Geez this is 2012 get er done with today's technology.

[AttackAttack]

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The shoulders should be huge. It's the early 80s. I think the screenshot looks better than the edited pictures.