Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

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  • MaddenSaints
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    • Jul 2012
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    #76
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

    Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
    I don't know. I understand where people are coming from because he's so agile and quick but at the same time once you get a hand on him, he's going down.
    I admit he is not the strongest but that is not his part of his game. Elusivness is agility such as speed, balance and agility, not strength.

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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
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      #77
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

      Originally posted by MaddenSaints
      I admit he is not the strongest but that is not his part of his game. Elusivness is agility such as speed, balance and agility, not strength.
      Isn't it still a factor though? If you're not breaking many tackles once contact is made, isn't that a factor in elusiveness?

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      • bmj2k7
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        • Jul 2010
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        #78
        My top 5: Sproles, Peterson, Charles, McCoy, Johnson. Honorable Mentions: Foster, MJD

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        • Chrisksaint
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          #79
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

          Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
          Isn't it still a factor though? If you're not breaking many tackles once contact is made, isn't that a factor in elusiveness?
          In my eyes elusiveness is about avoiding contact in general, once contact is made that's where the other ratings come into effect such as break tackle/stiff arm/trucking
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          • DeuceDouglas
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            • Apr 2010
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            #80
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

            Originally posted by Chrisksaint
            In my eyes elusiveness is about avoiding contact in general, once contact is made that's where the other ratings come into effect such as break tackle/stiff arm/trucking
            I feel the same way for the most part. But at the same time a guy like Dexter McCluster is out of the same mold as Sproles, although not nearly as effective, but I don't really consider him that elusive. He's great in space but he's fairly easy to bring down. It's tough because I know they're really elusive but at the same time it's hard to overlook how easy they can be to bring down.

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            • flyboyspitta
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              • Mar 2011
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              #81
              elusive: cleverly or skillfully evasive. Sounds like Adrian Peterson to me. Adrian Peterson is the best overall back in the league and part of the reason is because of how elusive he is. Yea they get their hands on him... But there have been plenty of times where it looks like AP is stuck in the backfield but go for a 60 yd td because he Eludes the defenders.

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              • flyboyspitta
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                • Mar 2011
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                #82
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUZ2Rs4vbHw

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                • flyboyspitta
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                  In my eyes elusiveness is about avoiding contact in general, once contact is made that's where the other ratings come into effect such as break tackle/stiff arm/trucking
                  if you get touched but get away you eluded the defender by definition.. so your personal opinion of elusiveness is incorrect... adrian peterson has whole teams just going for him and he still is eludes them

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                  • Chrisksaint
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                    #84
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

                    Originally posted by flyboyspitta
                    if you get touched but get away you eluded the defender by definition.. so your personal opinion of elusiveness is incorrect... adrian peterson has whole teams just going for him and he still is eludes them
                    My personal opinion is incorrect? Damn wasn't aware that was possible.

                    No one has the correct definition for these ratings cause were not even sure Madden creators themselves know.
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                    • Big FN Deal
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                      • Aug 2011
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                      #85
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

                      Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                      My personal opinion is incorrect? Damn wasn't aware that was possible.

                      No one has the correct definition for these ratings cause were not even sure Madden creators themselves know.
                      This has the be the second biggest issue with Madden, the lack of NFL replication on the level with some other sports sims being the first. The people making the game often seem perplexed or at least not willing to disclose, how stuff is even intended to work. I call it the "inkblot" effect, where that let each gamer interpret it differently, lol.

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                      • flyboyspitta
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                        • Mar 2011
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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                        My personal opinion is incorrect? Damn wasn't aware that was possible.

                        No one has the correct definition for these ratings cause were not even sure Madden creators themselves know.
                        yes your opinion is incorrect.... when there is a clear definition of something you can't say in my opinion the definition is this

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                        • Chrisksaint
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                          #87
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

                          Originally posted by flyboyspitta
                          yes your opinion is incorrect.... when there is a clear definition of something you can't say in my opinion the definition is this
                          Were talking about Madden there is no clear definition really, and even so my idea isn't wrong when one of the definitions of elusive is hard to catch which implies someone doesn't touch you. So if you want to troll at least make it entertaining
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                          • saintsyadig
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #88
                            Man! I'm just glad we have everybody talking about Sproles. Maby he is not a better rb than McCoy, but if he was the main back like McCoy is, then Sproles wouldn't be far behind. And finally ALL was saying is Sproles should have been nominated.

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                            • flyboyspitta
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                              • Mar 2011
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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                              Were talking about Madden there is no clear definition really, and even so my idea isn't wrong when one of the definitions of elusive is hard to catch which implies someone doesn't touch you. So if you want to troll at least make it entertaining
                              how does hard to catch imply doesn't touch you... just curious hard to catch means simply that "hard to catch" if someone is in a police chase and they grab him but then he gets away he was elusive enough to get away but they touched him right? Thats just an example dont take it literal

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                              • Chrisksaint
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                                #90
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Most Elusive Running Back

                                Originally posted by flyboyspitta
                                how does hard to catch imply doesn't touch you... just curious hard to catch means simply that "hard to catch" if someone is in a police chase and they grab him but then he gets away he was elusive enough to get away but they touched him right? Thats just an example dont take it literal
                                To me elusiveness is when you're running with the ball you're doing jukes moves, cutbacks, stopping on a dime,etc. so that defender does not have the opportunity to touch you as that increases your risk of being tackled. Usually like I said earlier once contact is initiated that's usually where other attributes come into effect.
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