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  • slick589
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 1285

    #2566
    Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

    Originally posted by SageInfinite
    Kinda hard to see because it zooms out but this is sort of an arm tackle, lol. This is the type of stuff I'd like to see expanded upon with this engine. Especially ball physics and player awareness, we could see some special stuff.

    Ive seen that animation a ton in ncaa but its more of a high wrap tackle from the side. What i wanna see is when a dline man or lb is engaged with an olineman they stick out their arms and try to make a tackle. Granted they shouldnt always be able to make the tackle it should be based on weight momentum and strength.
    Young albert haynesworth and warren sapp would do this all times when double teamed and sometimes they would make the tackle.

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    • SageInfinite
      Stop The GOAT Talk
      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #2567
      Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

      Originally posted by slick589
      Ive seen that animation a ton in ncaa but its more of a high wrap tackle from the side. What i wanna see is when a dline man or lb is engaged with an olineman they stick out their arms and try to make a tackle. Granted they shouldnt always be able to make the tackle it should be based on weight momentum and strength.
      Young albert haynesworth and warren sapp would do this all times when double teamed and sometimes they would make the tackle.
      Damn I haven't seen it in NCAA yet. I definitely would love to see Tiburon map arm controls to the right analog and move the finesse moves to shoulder and or trigger buttons
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      • D_Fos
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        • Apr 2012
        • 496

        #2568
        Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

        Originally posted by jfsolo
        Before I retired from making wish lists(there are more than enough people who represent my wishes fighting the good fight), I would list in every one of them, that hundreds of additional animations should be added for each and every position on the field.

        A lot are added in sports games every year, ten times as many are still needed. I keep waiting for a new technological breakthrough to occur that would make it less cost prohibitive to exponentially increase the number of animation in a given year. This is for all sports games, in every sub genre.
        especially in a game like football

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        • bukktown
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 3257

          #2569
          Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

          Originally posted by Shaun Mason
          I'm pretty sure it's a swerve.
          Uhh.....I'm not familiar with that term. Do you mean it's a Zig?

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          • shaunlmason
            Pro
            • Nov 2002
            • 745

            #2570
            Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

            Originally posted by bukktown
            Uhh.....I'm not familiar with that term. Do you mean it's a Zig?
            Really? I thought "swerve" was the accepted OS term. I've also heard it called a "zwoop" after the noise Chris Berman makes.

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            • Kanobi
              H*F Cl*ss *f '09
              • Apr 2003
              • 6055

              #2571
              Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

              Originally posted by slick589
              What i wanna see is when a dline man or lb is engaged with an olineman they stick out their arms and try to make a tackle.
              @0:30.......

              <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4OOS4WoAG70" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              you're welcome

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              • Dogslax41
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 1901

                #2572
                Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                Originally posted by Kanobi
                @0:30.......

                <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4OOS4WoAG70" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                you're welcome
                Been dying for my football fix waiting on madden. Now I have to go pop open apf2k8 after that video.

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                • Kanobi
                  H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 6055

                  #2573
                  Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                  Originally posted by Dogslax41
                  Been dying for my football fix waiting on madden. Now I have to go pop open apf2k8 after that video.
                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XqFTt-IGCus" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  @2:46-2:48 and @3:27-3:29 are probably my fav clips from this vid. If one didn't know any better they'd probably say 3:27-3:29 was real-time physics

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                  • slick589
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1285

                    #2574
                    Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                    I cant believe i never noticed how badly madden needs the reach tackles

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                    • Big FN Deal
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                      • Aug 2011
                      • 5993

                      #2575
                      Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                      Originally posted by slick589
                      I cant believe i never noticed how badly madden needs the reach tackles

                      Like I said before, looking back on OS posts, Bezo, LBz and others have been pointing this out for a long time but I think the removal or diminishing of suction tackling has made it more noticeable all around. This infamous KR at 11:30 really highlights the issue as well as the need for loco tuning.

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                      • SageInfinite
                        Stop The GOAT Talk
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11896

                        #2576
                        Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                        Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                        Like I said before, looking back on OS posts, Bezo, LBz and others have been pointing this out for a long time but I think the removal or diminishing of suction tackling has made it more noticeable all around. This infamous KR at 11:30 really highlights the issue as well as the need for loco tuning.

                        http://youtu.be/LX4hs7hsBkg
                        EW. And what's up with that replay of the return? It's the same replays style from NCAA. What happened to all the broadcast angles they used last year? What a buzz kill.
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                        • bukktown
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3257

                          #2577
                          Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                          I was just watching that video that Big linked to and something occurred to me that I hadn't thought of yet....

                          How does the hitstick modify the infinity engine? Does it just give the tackler tension buffs?
                          Last edited by bukktown; 08-10-2012, 12:52 AM. Reason: Damn iphone

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                          • SteelerSpartan
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2884

                            #2578
                            Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                            Originally posted by SageInfinite
                            EW. And what's up with that replay of the return? It's the same replays style from NCAA. What happened to all the broadcast angles they used last year? What a buzz kill.

                            If they scrap most of the stuff that the broadcast pros setup for them last year, I will just be baffled and infuriated

                            It was one of the few areas where I was legitimately excited and happy about moving forward
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                            • bigsmallwood
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1474

                              #2579
                              Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                              Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                              Like I said before, looking back on OS posts, Bezo, LBz and others have been pointing this out for a long time but I think the removal or diminishing of suction tackling has made it more noticeable all around. This infamous KR at 11:30 really highlights the issue as well as the need for loco tuning.

                              http://youtu.be/LX4hs7hsBkg

                              Wow. The players move with no real weight....That return was awful....and at the beginning of the entire video, why are players just falling all over the place??? That is not physics, that's just unnecessary. In real life, players are smart enough to see somebody below them and not attempt to zombie walk through them only to fall over like clumsy dominoes.
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                              • SageInfinite
                                Stop The GOAT Talk
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11896

                                #2580
                                Re: The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

                                Originally posted by SteelerSpartan
                                If they scrap most of the stuff that the broadcast pros setup for them last year, I will just be baffled and infuriated

                                It was one of the few areas where I was legitimately excited and happy about moving forward
                                You aren't the only one, and from all the videos I've seen it seems to have taken a step back. I hope somehow that was just early footage and would be addressed later, but knowing Tiburon, I doubt it
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