Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Top 10 Receivers/Tight Ends

[Gaycandybacon]

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I just don't understand why EA rates every player so highly. So Calvin Johnson and Aaron Rodgers who are both rated 99 OVR this year have peaked their talent level? There is no way for these athletes to improve their overall play? and if they have maxed out there possible talent level it must make them the greatest of all time, it is not possible to be any more talented than these players.

Every year we have the same complaint, I just can't comprehend EA's logic with their rating system.

There's no way in hell that they maxed out their talent. You're speaking like they're perfect.. Just because they're 99 OVR doesn't mean they can't improve. Hell if they have a bad season their Rating will decrease, then they can improve from that season. That's one way of looking at it. If they have a great season, I'm sure that their ratings won't go up high at a substaintual rate.. But some of their ratings will be improved like their catch, acceleration for Calvin and Accuracy, play action etc. for Arod.

[fatleg3]

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What did you prove with that?

Nothing at all

[N51_rob]

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What did you prove with that?

Thinking the same thing, as it shows his YPC his first two years at 19.4 and 21.0 is basically running deep routes it would seem. He may have been a better all around receiver in 2011, but early on he was the teams deep threat used to take the top off the coverage.

[Joobieo]

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There's no way in hell that they maxed out their talent. You're speaking like they're perfect.. Just because they're 99 OVR doesn't mean they can't improve. Hell if they have a bad season their Rating will decrease, then they can improve from that season. That's one way of looking at it. If they have a great season, I'm sure that their ratings won't go up high at a substaintual rate.. But some of their ratings will be improved like their catch, acceleration for Calvin and Accuracy, play action etc. for Arod.

Agreed. Just because these two are already 99 overall doesn't mean they can't improve in certain areas of the game. As long as they don't have max stats in everything then I don't see this as a problem.

[mojo6911]

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He also played in one more game, and its just as easy to see that Nicks was the best WR on the Giants roster in the play-offs. .

Even if you project Nicks' stats to one more game, he still loses in every category. Cruz had more YPC, more catches per game, and more yards per game, more TD per game, etc. Cruz only started 7 games and put up ridiculous stats.

Thats because teams focused on shutting Nicks down because hes been doing it for 2 years already then Cruz showed hes legit.

These aren't historical ratings. These are based on what they did last year.

Cruz had better numbers than most WRs in the league doesn't mean hes top 5.

Yes, it does. This isn't based on a body of work, it is based on last year.

[N51_rob]

Even if you project Nicks' stats to one more game, he still loses in every category. Cruz had more YPC, more catches per game, and more yards per game, more TD per game, etc. Cruz only started 7 games and put up ridiculous stats.

And the playoffs? I see you ignored that to focus on what strengthens your argument. Cruz did have a great year though no denying that. I've watched enough coaches film to see that teams were clearly rolling coverage over to Nicks' side of the field opening things up for Manningham and Cruz.

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[mojo6911]

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And the playoffs? I see you ignored that to focus on what strengthens your argument. Cruz did have a great year though no denying that. I've watched enough coaches film to see that teams were clearly rolling coverage over to Nicks' side of the field opening things up for Manningham and Cruz.

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You are talking about 3 games out of a whole season.

[jwhezzy2003]

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Hakeem Nicks had a good year and all but elite status?

exactly he might not even be the best wr on his team. Cruz is better to me.

But this is EA we are talking about.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

This whole notion that Cruz is better hen Nicks is ridiculous. Almost every single Giants fan would laugh at you.

[N51_rob]

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You are talking about 3 games out of a whole season.

No I am talking about 4 of the most important games of any NFL season. You go to you best players in the play-offs. You are only dismissing it because it shows that when the Giants went to Nicks when it mattered most. But continue to ignore any and all facts that don't support your Cruz is better than Nicks notion. Just like anyone else you are more than entitled to your opinion.

[Jimi XIII]

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And the playoffs? I see you ignored that to focus on what strengthens your argument. Cruz did have a great year though no denying that. I've watched enough coaches film to see that teams were clearly rolling coverage over to Nicks' side of the field opening things up for Manningham and Cruz.

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Well, there's not a playoff rating. But overall Cruz did pass Nicks on just about every aspect of receiver role. Cruz made plays in double coverage. Not a biggie though, as long as the specific ratings are somewhat accurate. Their both great receivers and I refuse to go on any further about a senseless ratings battle, I'm not about to turn into that guy...I hate these types of debates on here so carry on...

[dramachild11]

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Hakeem Nicks had a good year and all but elite status?

Why does everyone always act like nicks is meat? He was the best receiver on the team the past two years, Cruz had a great year last year cause no doubled him for the first 8 weeks of the season... As for the list I would put Gronk behind Andre Larry an Charles

[dramachild11]

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Just follow up, I'm a giants fan so I don't really care about the argument for who's better cause I'm glad there both on the team I root for but nicks needs to start getting a lil bit more respect imo

[TB12TCUPROCOMBAT]

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Welker is too high in my opinion, he is the definition of a system reciever. Put him on any other team with another system and no Brady, and he would be just slightly above average. He should be like an 88 in my opinion. Roddy, Nicks, and Smith should all be like 90-92 range, they shouldn't be that close to the elite status of Calvin, Larry, and Andre. Tight ends look fine, I would either bump Graham up an OVR, or bump Vernon down one OVR, I don't think they are equal.

You are telling me that the only reason that he out runs defenders and runs 99 yards to tie the longest touchdown reception in nfl history is because of tom brady. That is completley a joke that you even said that and the guy that was the reason for the 99 yard TD got cut the next week. You tell me when a system reciever can embarrass someone like that. He has great speed and great hands. Sure he dropped that wide open pass in the super bowl but that was also a bad throw for a simple pass from tom brady. He aslo produces unbelievable yards after catch stats that no other reciever right now produces. Calvin johnson might be good but wes welker has had the most recieving yards since 2007 than any other wide reciever. You can't say a wide reciever is only good because of their quarterback that is just a load of crap.

[N51_rob]

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Welker averages about 11 yards per reception in New England. Where are all those run after catch yards exactly. He takes a 5 yard route and gets 6 more yards?