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**Cheetah Bird** · 08-15-2012, 06:14 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I hate the PAT angle. It looks the most cartoonish. I wish they'd lower it behind the kicker's back or maybe even have the camera looking out from BEHIND the uprights. FG angles I don't have a problem with. On PAT's it just makes the crowd look so lame from that high up angle. It's been in the game a while now.

I just made a tackle on Leon Washington, my defender did like a jump forward,floated in air, performed a horse collar like tackle, but then he did like a fly back and Leon slammed back in to the dirt like Edge the wrestler's finishing move... The defender flew back afterwards again and did some belly flop thing. It's laughable.

Some of these tackles are starting to look like WWF moves.

**TreyIM2** · 08-15-2012, 06:16 PM

I would love to know how many ppl posting up here were praising Backbreaker to the high heavens for their Euphoria engine which is the same as IE and had the same lil weird moments with it yet tearing down EA's RTP as if it is garbage? I just wonder and, anyone who may read this and are doing that, look at yourselves. Lots of bias there to be seen, no doubt

That being said, I really don't want to get into a breakdown of the pros and cons of this demo because, basically, it's just a demo and EA is good for tightening, adding, and worsening and removing things in their demos, all the time but I am hoping that they've worked on the limbs part of tech, focusing on arms. Cats are not wrapping when they should nor do they try to brace themselves if they happen to go down when they may have time to. I really hope to see that in the retail version but if it's not there this year, I DON'T CARE! This is good stuff and I see improvement on it coming over the years.

**TreyIM2** · 08-15-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by TreyIM2

I would love to know how many ppl posting up here were praising Backbreaker to the high heavens for their Euphoria engine which is the same as IE and had the same lil weird moments with it yet tearing down EA's RTP as if it is garbage? I just wonder and, anyone who may read this and are doing that, look at yourselves. Lots of bias there to be seen, no doubt

That being said, I really don't want to get into a breakdown of the pros and cons of this demo because, basically, it's just a demo and EA is good for tightening, adding, and worsening and removing things in their demos, all the time but I am hoping that they've worked on the limbs part of tech, focusing on arms. Cats are not wrapping when they should nor do they try to brace themselves if they happen to go down when they may have time to. I really hope to see that in the retail version but if it's not there this year, I DON'T CARE! This is good stuff and I see improvement on it coming over the years.

Oh, not to mention, IE feels much more loose and organic compared to Euphoria for Backbreaker. THAT engine was STIFF in that game. Be real, ppl.

**capa** · 08-15-2012, 06:19 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I am a casual football gamer at best...really prefer baseball and the Show has me hooked. But that being said, I dl the demo to my PS3 today and...well...I was not real impressed.

As many others have already said, the look of the actual gameplay makes it hard to immerse myself in the game. Guys go down when barely touched...and even by running into their own blocker. The physics just don't seem ready for primetime yet in my opinion.

I usually play coach mode in football games because my stick skills are pretty bad...but in the demo on AllPro I was able to pass for 2 TDs against the 49ers (I was Giants) and sustain a few other drives. I thought I'd get hammered but I actually fared pretty well. I don't know if that is good or bad!

Anyway, my son loves Madden and will be buying for his 360 as he plays online all the time, so there will be a sale in this household. The gameplay just did not do it for me but I will keep an eye out for more opinions and patches if and when they come to see what improves.

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**E_Melo85** · 08-15-2012, 06:22 PM

I've been playing it since yesterday and I enjoy it a lot. It feel`s a lot different compared to recent Madden's and it may very well be the best Madden. It'd be nice if someone could come up with sliders that are very realistic. There are, however, a few things that are bothering me about this game
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- WR Control: I feel like the user still doesn't have enough control over the WR. I hate it when I throw a deep pass and the reciever just keeps running even though the ball is behind him. Then it gets picked off. I dont know if you can, but can you strafe as a WR? This would make it a lot easier and less frustrating. Hopefully in the future we can get a Jump Ball mechanic.

- Jumping: Everytime I press Triangle, the player Im controlling never jumps. Is anyone else having an issue with this? Im just left with my player standing there while the WR or DB jumps up to catch the ball.

Man Coverage: I've noticed a couple of times that when I have a DB in man coverage, the reciever he's covering is left completly open afte a couple of seconds... and the DB that was covering him is either blizing or on the other side of the field. Has this happened to anyone else? Hopefully this can be fixed.

Besides these things, this game is really good.

**rangerrick012** · 08-15-2012, 06:22 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

After playing the demo again, I have to say I'm happy and willing to finally buy in. This will likely be the first Madden I buy since M10, though I did buy and enjoy NCAA 11. I'm impressed with the commentary and presentation, which were the big huge problems I've had with this game the past few years. And I've had fun playing the game.

There are still flaws that I don't like, like the wonky movement and shoddy CPU AI at times, but all in all I like the effort that has finally been made to move this game forward, and CCM seems like it could be great.

Maybe it's just me getting older and far less cynical about things, but I'm willing to overlook certain flaws if the actual experience is fun, and for me this is a fun game.

**beaware** · 08-15-2012, 06:31 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Infinity Engine = EA hype at its best. Why when a guy gets barely touched he's bouncing all over the place like a pinball. Any touch has the guy spinning in another direction. Infinity Engine is more like outer space physics.

**slick589** · 08-15-2012, 06:35 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Originally posted by beaware

Infinity Engine = EA hype at its best. Why when a guy gets barely touched he's bouncing all over the place like a pinball. Any touch has the guy spinning in another direction. Infinity Engine is more like outer space physics.

Agreed this engine was so hyped but we dk how its gonna turn out yet. Ill reserve judgement for the final product but needless to say my hopes are not too high.

**Dogslax41** · 08-15-2012, 06:53 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Just watched Shopmaster's KC v Oak video. Anyone that was doubting changes to the physics engine from demo to retail please go watch that video. Not saying its even close to perfect as there are still strange situations, but the difference is night and day.

**T1TRAPTOR** · 08-15-2012, 06:56 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Played a game all-madden and won 28-19. Game feels pretty good. I like the physics, although i do not like the whole pinball type thing some other people have mentioned. The game is alot more realistic to me though.

**sva91** · 08-15-2012, 06:57 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Game is pretty fun. I played the NCAA demo for about one offensive series, and then got bored and never touched it again. This game is fun...presentation is really good. Commentary is much improved, the cutscenes look phenomenal...photo-realistic at some angles. Game is fun, but the RTP was a bit misleading...if i had not known, I would prob think the game had the exact same engine. But it does feel smoother, and overall just much more polished.

**Franchise408** · 08-15-2012, 07:02 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

This game is still scripted as all get out.

I had Vernon Davis wide open. Not a defender around him for 10 yards in any direction. Perfectly placed pass in stride. Dropped...

Same drive, hit Delanie Walker over the middle for a first down. Defender hits him. Instead of going down, Walker runs backwards for 5 yards, then gets tackled short of the first down. 4th down. Even though he should have been tackled for a 1st down.

So many facepalm, cringe worthy moments just playing a 20 minute demo. I can't imagine how frustrating this game is gonna get once I start playing 16 game franchise modes on 15 minute quarters.

EA Tiburon continues their legacy of fail.

**Franchise408** · 08-15-2012, 07:05 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Originally posted by slick589

Agreed this engine was so hyped but we dk how its gonna turn out yet. Ill reserve judgement for the final product but needless to say my hopes are not too high.

Yes, we know how it is gonna turn out. We are playing it.

**poopoop** · 08-15-2012, 07:06 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Computers playcalling is terrible. From the playcalls it suggests if you use Gameflow, to the plays the Computer picks. Down 3-0 late in the game (under 2 mins remaining) why'd the Seahawks immediately run on their first play, then a series later run on 2nd and 15? Computer just has no awareness of game situations. Improving this alone would make the CPU a lot more difficult to defeat.

PS3 version looks bad compared to XBOX but this is pretty much standard.

IE leads to some beautiful moments but also some strange ones. There was one sack where I tried to turn and scramble with Tanard Jackson and it lead to some really weird collision. I've seen nice things though like a Safety identically taking out a corner, some nice gang tackles, fumble recoveries and pass breakups. My favorite tackle was one where I blindsided Ahmad Bradshaw and knocked over his lineman as well.

Even though IE has it's issues still good to see that they took a chance and added it, a welcome addition. I'll take the hiccups with the improvements.

With the poor CPU playcalling/AI and inability to edit things offline looks like OF playing against only human opponents would be the way to go.

**ghettogeeksta** · 08-15-2012, 07:08 PM

Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Originally posted by slick589

Agreed this engine was so hyped but we dk how its gonna turn out yet. Ill reserve judgement for the final product but needless to say my hopes are not too high.

A lot of people on this board knew IE was not going to be perfect this year. EA knew it was not going to be perfect this year also. The lead guy over this project bascially just made the decision to put it in Madden 13 even though it was not ready yet. I am glad they did put it in with all its flaws, because if they did not, I would not be buying this game again this year. I could not take another year of canned animations.