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  • jpdavis82
    All Star
    • Sep 2005
    • 8794

    #16
    Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

    Originally posted by KensaiKatai
    anyone notice the warping in the replay at 1:11?

    I stopped watching there.. the pre-game was bad, the commentary is better, but still sounds canned, it doesn't flow very well. Though as an audio engineer I could be a bit hypercritical in that regard...but it is better.
    Here's a video that shows the pre-game and doesn't skip through it
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fedmH4IrC3w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    • bigsmallwood
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 1474

      #17
      Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

      Originally posted by jpdavis82
      The difference between you guys is one of you is focusing on what IS there and the other on what ISN'T. I'm somewhere in the middle and understand both sides.
      What are you talking about? If the presentation was stellar, there would be no question about it. If its not all there...which it isn't by a long shot...then that doesn't put M13's presentation in the upper echelon of sports presentation in video games.

      We can only focus on what is there...or the lack of in M13's case.

      the replays are still messy and there are enough people who are tired of the same issues again and again. It forces one to ask the question...."what did they really work on the entire dev cycle?"
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      • jpdavis82
        All Star
        • Sep 2005
        • 8794

        #18
        Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

        Originally posted by bigsmallwood
        What are you talking about? If the presentation was stellar, there would be no question about it. If its not all there...which it isn't by a long shot...then that doesn't put M13's presentation in the upper echelon of sports presentation in video games.

        We can only focus on what is there...or the lack of in M13's case.

        the replays are still messy and there are enough people who are tired of the same issues again and again. It forces one to ask the question...."what did they really work on the entire dev cycle?"
        What did they work on the entire dev cycle???????????? First of all, you haven't even played Madden 13 with all of the game modes and new features, Connected Careers alone probably took up a huge part of the dev cycle. I know the demo is all that we have to base our impressions off of right now, but this game is in no way the same as Madden 12. Did you even play Madden 12?

        Madden 12 from Madden 11 was a pretty good jump, but Madden 13 from 12 is probably the biggest one year jump of any Madden ever made
        Last edited by jpdavis82; 08-16-2012, 03:30 PM.

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        • KensaiKatai
          Rookie
          • Oct 2008
          • 303

          #19
          Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

          Originally posted by jpdavis82
          Why was the pre-game bad? He skipped through it, if you're saying there wasn't much to it.
          Didn't know he skipped through it.

          That aside, I watched a bit more after the warping.. the warping is still really bad.. it was apparent on the first run play. Warping really gets to me, the physics engine has helped 'somewhat' in that regard but I still stand by my previous assertion that it won't hit it's stride until 2015. And that's only if they are as hard on themselves as I'm being on them. The game is not as smooth as it should be yet.

          To be fair, I don't think it's right to compare Madden to games like The Show due to the amount of movement involved with 22 players moving simultaneously etc. but I do abide by the philosophy that less is more and I wish Madden would provide a little less flash and a little more substance sometimes, it would benefit them greatly. The in-between/presentation stuff like hands floating in the air during the pregame huddle..the warping I mentioned earlier etc.. I feel like instead of trying to fit a lot of stuff in they should make sure the stuff they do have works flawlessly first. I'd rather not have the replay at ALL than to see stuff like that. It's like having too many tracks in a record.. you can't build great structures on weak foundations.. it could be a limitation of the engine, I'm not a video game programming expert, i'm just trying to remain objective. I also feel stuff like this is the main reason why exploits become so apparent... which has been one of my biggest gripes with Madden in recent years.. both from an AI and an online standpoint.

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          • KensaiKatai
            Rookie
            • Oct 2008
            • 303

            #20
            Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

            Originally posted by jpdavis82
            Here's a video that shows the pre-game and doesn't skip through it
            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fedmH4IrC3w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Thanks for this but I still stand by my previous point.

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            • jpdavis82
              All Star
              • Sep 2005
              • 8794

              #21
              Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

              Originally posted by KensaiKatai
              Didn't know he skipped through it.

              That aside, I watched a bit more after the warping.. the warping is still really bad.. it was apparent on the first run play. Warping really gets to me, the physics engine has helped 'somewhat' in that regard but I still stand by my previous assertion that it won't hit it's stride until 2015. And that's only if they are as hard on themselves as I'm being on them. The game is not as smooth as it should be yet.

              To be fair, I don't think it's right to compare Madden to games like The Show due to the amount of movement involved with 22 players moving simultaneously etc. but I do abide by the philosophy that less is more and I wish Madden would provide a little less flash and a little more substance sometimes, it would benefit them greatly. The in-between/presentation stuff like hands floating in the air during the pregame huddle..the warping I mentioned earlier etc.. I feel like instead of trying to fit a lot of stuff in they should make sure the stuff they do have works flawlessly first. I'd rather not have the replay at ALL than to see stuff like that. It's like having too many tracks in a record.. you can't build great structures on weak foundations.. it could be a limitation of the engine, I'm not a video game programming expert, i'm just trying to remain objective. I also feel stuff like this is the main reason why exploits become so apparent... which has been one of my biggest gripes with Madden in recent years.. both from an AI and an online standpoint.
              That video shows warping for the first time in any Madden 13 video I have seen and I have seen at least 100 videos of Madden 13 if not more. I have played 8 games of Madden 13 demo and there was no warping and I know the guys who have played the game this week said the warping was next to nonexistent.

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              • KensaiKatai
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 303

                #22
                Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                That video shows warping for the first time in any Madden 13 video I have seen and I have seen at least 100 videos of Madden 13 if not more. I have played 8 games of Madden 13 demo and there was no warping and I know the guys who have played the game this week said the warping was next to nonexistent.
                I notice warping during the actual plays themselves. Some aren't as harsh in this regard as I am but it's there. I could pinpoint it if you want, but it's very apparent to me. I've noticed warping on almost every play I've seen especially when things get jumbled up at the line of scrimmage, or in other instances of collision at fast paces.. from the far view it's not as apparent.. and due to the amount of things going on it's hard to notice with the disconcerting eye. The replay just zoomed in so it made it very obvious.

                There's a reason why the slow speed, although not as realistic as far as an actual game's tempo is concerned, allows the animations to operate in a more realistic manner. Like I said I'm no expert but it's either programming or system resource limitations.

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                • scoonie05
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 493

                  #23
                  Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                  EVERY sports game nowadays has warping.....
                  Last edited by scoonie05; 08-16-2012, 04:06 PM.

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                  • MaddenSaints
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 779

                    #24
                    Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                    Originally posted by scoonie05
                    EVERY sports game has warping soooo.....
                    This.

                    I just hope the warping does not mean that a CB can run straight through your WR to pick you off. That frustrates the hell out of me.

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                    • KensaiKatai
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 303

                      #25
                      Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                      Originally posted by scoonie05
                      EVERY sports game has warping soooo.....
                      Some are more prevalent than others. If you are trying to imply that my expectations might be unrealistic I thought I already made that clear, I personally don't think they are though... I think Madden adds a lot of things every year that [to me] are unnecessary where as if they just focused on more basic stuff it would better suit things like the aforementioned.

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                      • tyberious4now
                        Tiger Paw
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 753

                        #26
                        Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                        Sorry dude it's not that big of a deal! I was kinda hard on the demo but looking at the actual VIDEO GAME it looks pretty good...

                        Perfect no but worth my money this year.......

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                        • SageInfinite
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                          #27
                          Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                          I don't get what's so great about the presentation this year. Besides the commentary being way better, what else is there?
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                          • ch46647
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                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3515

                            #28
                            Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                            Originally posted by SageInfinite
                            I don't get what's so great about the presentation this year. Besides the commentary being way better, what else is there?
                            Audio took a HUGE leap! The crowd is infinitely better. The new collisons sound much better and I really like the QB cadences. I just wish there were more then 12 of them...

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                            • fsufan4423
                              Stop the Nonsense
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1071

                              #29
                              Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                              Originally posted by ch46647
                              Audio took a HUGE leap! The crowd is infinitely better. The new collisons sound much better and I really like the QB cadences. I just wish there were more then 12 of them...
                              I agree. I would have settled for Madden 12 with the new commentary.
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                              • TheBleedingRed21
                                Game Dev
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 5071

                                #30
                                Re: Madden 13 Video Retail Saints Falcons(tradition sports)

                                Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                                The Halftime Show and Postgame show is a joke, that's why no one seems to really be impressed by the presentation.

                                For some, it feels the same because some of the issues were the ones they had last year (blocking, running, a.i, cpu cheating).

                                AND the change has to be good or implemented or noticeable for people to like it or care or even acknowledge it.
                                That's your opinion. There are many that are very impressed with it.

                                To me, it is very acceptable considering the addition of CCM and IE. But I tend to be less harsh on my opinions of video games.

                                I guess I try to understand the time it takes to work a new engine in and new mode.

                                If you ask me, the change is VERY noticable and creates a heck of a game.
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