NHL 13 Ratings - Eastern Conference Player and Team Ratings

[gator3guy]

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First of all, player separation needs to be greater. Use the full 0-99 scale. Overalls for players should look something like the following:

CHL Players: 0-40
Euro League Players: 0-50
AHL Players: 30-50
NHL Players: 50-99


Second of all, team separation needs to be greater. There is no way the Flyers (even though I love them) should have the same rating for goaltending as the Rangers. And speaking of the Flyers, their offense is rated a 4 while their defense and goaltending got a 4.5. Their offense should be a 4.5, defense should be around a 3, and goaltending around a 2.5.

Third of all, so many players are WAYYY overrated. I'd give all the examples, but it's just way too much for one post. Taking the Flyers for example:

1. The fact that Blair Betts is even on the team anymore is stupid. He's not even under contract.
2. Bryzgalov being an 86 is absurd after that horrible performance last year.
3. Rinaldo is way too high. He should be the worst player on the Flyers.
4. Chris Pronger should not even be there. He will not play, end of story.
5. Pretending that Pronger is not there, Coburn being the best defender on the Flyers is just wrong. Timonen is.

I know what you are saying but they can't cap the CHL or European leagues at a certain number because some of those guys are good enough to hold their own in the NHL. I'll use Dougie Hamilton a 2011 1st rounder for the Bruins as an example. He's good enough to play in the NHL right now. It would be stupid to cap him at 40 OVR just for the sake of spreading out guys. This is something they did in years previous that I did not agree with. Mikael Granlund for example (2010 Minnesota 1st rounder) was terrible in NHL 12 when he was arguably one of the best players not playing in the NHL.

They need to use a "case by case" basis for ratings. Just rate the player for what he is and not what league he's playing in. One thing that really irked me the past couple years is they would just bump up rookies for no reason other than they were playing in the NHL and not the CHL. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was like a 75 on the default rosters last year and just because he made the Edmonton roster they bumped him up to 83 without even playing a game!!! That's just ridiculous IMO. He should have been an 83 to start (based on what other players were rated. Meanwhile a guy like Jonathan Huberdeau who is talented enough to play in the NHL, but needed an extra year to bulk up, is rated a 70 just because he's playing in the CHL. Sorry for the rant, its just something that bugs me.

[tyler289]

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Mathieu Perreault has been in the league for a few years now...and EA misspells his name? Seriously?

Hopefully that's just a typo on the graphic.

[Vikes1]

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The Islanders are sure looking rating wise, like a fun team to try to built up.

I'm hoping to see tomorrow, that there's some decent ratings separation for our Wild players.

[bwiggy33]

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The Islanders are sure looking rating wise, like a fun team to try to built up.

I'm hoping to see tomorrow, that there's some decent ratings separation for our Wild players.

Fully agree. I think that after our first line and 2 second line players there should be a dramatic drop off. I'd say Koivu (85) Parise (85) Heatley(82) Seto (80) Butch (High 70's-80 because of injury) and from there on should be all mid to low 70's. Defensively I think Suter should be about an 87 and there really shouldn't be another D man in the 80's. Maybe Gilbert in the low 80's but that's all. I do think Backs should be an 84ish though. He's a very consistent tender despite getting injured. People will probably disagree but when Backs is healthy he's a top 7 goalie in the NHL. He's very underrated but that's because he's so injury prone that people aren't exposed to him. The good thing is that Hards will be one of the highest rated backup goalies. Boy our goalies get the injury bug a lot. I love our duo though. I'm really happy Harding resigned, and he must absolutely love MN because he definitely could be a starter on some other teams in the NHL.

[uni91]

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So far it looks pretty good and EA is on the right track with the ratings .......but as always they have a few head scratchers!

I've only looked at a few teams so far and my first impressions is that the forwards seem pretty good....but defenseman are a little overrated? Not sure if people agree or not.

How is Justin Faulk and Adam Larsson a 84? They just started last year and had only like 20 points or something. You cant have Karlsson being a 86 and both of them a 84! Also, there is also a lot of defenseman in the 80's that shouldn't be....Adam McQuaid, for example......but it shouldnt take too much work to fix.

As for goalies they probably need a little work but not too bad...

Bryzgalov and Vokoun are overratted - both should be around 85
Brodeur only a 82.....maybe bump up to 84 or 85
DiPietro a 81! wow.....maybe 78 at best! with 44 durability.


All in all it is better than last year.....also, hopefully they got rid of the stupid 75 poise thing where the player would get a 3 point overall jump.....

[jayenomics]

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Apparently EA didn't watch how effective the Devils D were in the playoffs. Disappointing to say the least.

[scala42]

now my worries is that player differentiation (ratings) is there but how will this translate to the game PLUS if there are really difference between ratings of players...this should also reflect on TEAM ratings right???

Let's just talk about Boston and Buffalo...their goalie ratings:

Buffalo 4.5 rating: Miller 92 and Enroth 77
Boston 4.5 rating: Rask 83 and Khudobin 72

how can these 2 teams have the same 4.5 rating???? okay if you take average of the 2 goalies..Boston is 77.5 and Buffalo is 84.5.... and they are the same??? the only explanation is that if EA range of 4.5 is between 75-85??but again thats not even close in reality. at least make 1 rating point difference for every 10 points (average).


is ea trying not to offend teams of nhl by doing this????

bitter canucks fans still trying to take shots at boston anyway they can i see, don't worry i'm sure schneider and luongo will be overrated in goalie team rating as well as their overall player rating

[canucksss]

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bitter canucks fans still trying to take shots at boston anyway they can i see, don't worry i'm sure schneider and luongo will be overrated in goalie team rating as well as their overall player rating

was i really bitter about boston??? really???? or are you interpreting based on ur biased opinion and without considering the text of what i just said and facts about the rating????

what im trying to say is about the ratings dude not because canucks lost to boston. the gap is so close or even tied in this matter.

[Nizziano]

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Kreider 68, Rupp 76, seriously? sure, Rupp is a good "in your face" player in a checking line, did they miss the playoff when Kreider sometimes was outstanding, also, Hags is abit low to. Other than that most of it feels atleast ok.

[bwiggy33]

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Apparently EA didn't watch how effective the Devils D were in the playoffs. Disappointing to say the least.

Are you saying they are underrated?

If you are saying that then that's not true. It's not just about what they did in the playoffs. It's about how they've played their entire career. How consistent they are. How often do you think some unknown guy will put up a bunch of points in the playoffs when they didn't do jack points wise during the season? It happens all the time. Should they be rated an 85 because of it? Hell no. Guys get lucky and are in the right place at the right time in the playoffs. That's just how it happens. I mean the Devs don't have bad D but none of those guys are great D men by any means. Hell Larsson is the highest rated and he hardly played in the playoffs. We honestly don't even know if he will ever even be good. Not all top draft picks are great especially when you rush them to the NHL.

If you are saying they are overrated then scratch everything I just wrote.

[Simple Mathematics]

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So far it looks pretty good and EA is on the right track with the ratings .......but as always they have a few head scratchers!

I've only looked at a few teams so far and my first impressions is that the forwards seem pretty good....but defenseman are a little overrated? Not sure if people agree or not.

How is Justin Faulk and Adam Larsson a 84? They just started last year and had only like 20 points or something. You cant have Karlsson being a 86 and both of them a 84! Also, there is also a lot of defenseman in the 80's that shouldn't be....Adam McQuaid, for example......but it shouldnt take too much work to fix.

As for goalies they probably need a little work but not too bad...

Bryzgalov and Vokoun are overratted - both should be around 85
Brodeur only a 82.....maybe bump up to 84 or 85
DiPietro a 81! wow.....maybe 78 at best! with 44 durability.


All in all it is better than last year.....also, hopefully they got rid of the stupid 75 poise thing where the player would get a 3 point overall jump.....

Vokoun and Bryzgalov should be rated even lower than that. I wish there was a way to make both of them extremely inconsistent. The consistency rating for goalies does not do it justice.

Also, despite having a terrific playoff run, Brodeur had a pretty average season.

And a 44 durability rating for DiPietro is way too high. If they were to use the full 0-99 scale, he would be a 0.

[bwiggy33]

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Kreider 68, Rupp 76, seriously? sure, Rupp is a good "in your face" player in a checking line, did they miss the playoff when Kreider sometimes was outstanding, also, Hags is abit low to. Other than that most of it feels atleast ok.

Chris Kreider is not underrated. The guy has played 18 playoff games and that's it. Why should he be any higher? As I said above how many times have we seen guys play unreal in the playoffs only to never pan out for a good career in the NHL. Kreider is no lock just because he scored 5 goals and 2 assists in 18 playoff games which were the first games of his career. Also did you notice he was a -4 +- wise. That probably knocked his OVR total down. When you get the game look at his full ratings. His shooting, puck control, etc. will probably be in the low-mid 70's but his defense attributes will be in the 60's. That's fair ratings for a guy who's only played 18 games. They barely have any basis to go off of.

Everyone needs to understand a couple things. It's not just about "oh this guy played unreal in the playoffs so why is he rated so low." It's about consistency and proven play throughout the players career, as well as the age factor (look at Brodeur). Secondly when you get the game look at each players attributes. Screw the overall rating. That doesn't mean jack. Some guys are offensive juggernauts but suck at defense (Gaborik). Other guys who are your 3rd/4th line guys are defensive so their defensive abilities will be higher than their offensive. This is the exact reason why video games should remove the OVR number rating. Use a meter system because then it will force people to look at the different attribute ratings a player has and understand players are good at some parts of the game and struggle with others. When a player is good at one part of the game and not another, it's going to knock the players OVR rating down. The key to all of this is don't look at the OVR rating, look at the attributes!

[uni91]

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And a 44 durability rating for DiPietro is way too high. If they were to use the full 0-99 scale, he would be a 0.

LOL....He wouldn't even make it through warmups!

But, as for Broduer....It's a good debate but would you rather have Broduer or Pavelec at a 82? I guess thats where I'm coming from....I'll probably bump Pavelec down to a 79 or 80.....I'm so sick of him getting great ratings the past several years and he continues to do nothing!

[crankybaker]

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A few problems I found.

Gionta is 83 -- WTF? even worse Gomez a person who scored 2 goals last year and I think 11 the year before is a 79. Should be much lower, but I guess that would screw over that team.

P.Martin 85 overall is way to high after the season he just had.

The big point gap between 87 and 71 is a bit crazy as well. Only thing I could think of is a balencing thing for a league as the penguins line up on NHL 13 looks really good and they have about 8 mill in cap room. So a big name or 2 can be added within the Nhl 13 world.

Holtby is 73. I know he only played a few games for the caps but he was outstanding should at least be in the high 70's as he has proven himself at the nhl level.

When the west ratings come out I would love to see what wideman's rating is as he was overpaid on july 1st and I hope that won't traslate to a high rating.

Things a do like: the low goalie ratings on the maple leafs and lighting teams as we all know that have a massive hole in the area

[crankybaker]

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bitter canucks fans still trying to take shots at boston anyway they can i see, don't worry i'm sure schneider and luongo will be overrated in goalie team rating as well as their overall player rating

Umm did you read what he wrote. He didn't call out or offend any team or Boston for that matter. Just put numbers together to make his point and the team used was Boston. He didn't say Boston was **** or should be have a worse player rating. He just compared two overalls that should have a gap between them. Spewing random rubbish provides nothing to anyone.