NHL 13 Ratings - Eastern Conference Player and Team Ratings

[JamieLeeWV]

Steven gionta is only a 64 WTF whereas Eric boulton and CJ are rated higher LOL.

Brodeur should be higher than an 82 too same goes for Henrique and elias.

We all know ea are biased though right.

[BleacherCreature]

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Kreider 68, Rupp 76, seriously? sure, Rupp is a good "in your face" player in a checking line, did they miss the playoff when Kreider sometimes was outstanding, also, Hags is abit low to. Other than that most of it feels atleast ok.

I think they swapped Rupp's rating with his age.

[Thief1337]

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Nathan Horton : 46 games played, 32 points; 85 Overall.
Yet... Tyler Ennis : 48 games played, 34 points; 77 Overall.
And Tyler Seguin : 81 games played, 67 points; 84 Overall. Very strange.

73 points in 82 games played for Pominville; 85 Overall.
61 points in 78 games played for Vanek; 84 Overall.
50 points in 80 games played for Stafford; 83 Overall.

11 more points for Vanek than Stafford with 2 less games played awards him only +1 in Overall ? Doesn't seem convenient at all.

0,78 points per game for Vanek = 84 OV
0,68 points per game for Jeff Skinner = 84 OV

What are the considerations, here ?

Tyler Ennis has the same amount of points-per-game than Alexander Semin. Semin's got 83 OV and Ennis only has 77. That's a really huge margin. Once again, I wonder what are the considerations ? There's even worse, going ahead...

Max Pacioretty: 65 points in 79 games played. 84 Overall.
David Desharnais : 60 points in 81 games played. 79 Overall???
Lars Eller: 28 points in 79 games played. 80 Overall. WTF?
Tomas Plekanec : 52 points in 81 games played. 86 Overall. Totally overrated.

I think the worse part is this:
René Bourque: 24 points in 76 games played : 84 Overall.

Considering Bourque, these other players are as good or worse than him :
Joffrey Lupul : 67 points in 66 games played : 84 Overall.
James Neal : 81 points (40 goals) in 80 games played : 84 Overall.
Patrik Elias: 78 points in 81 games played, 82 Overall. (DISGRACE)

Where's the consistency ? This means Lupul could be traded for René Bourque. Even worse: René Bourque could be traded for Patrik Elias, anytime.

I found many other things that aren't consistent at all, ahead:

Jason Spezza : 84 points in 80 games played: 87 Overall.
Brad Richards : 66 points in 82 games played: 87 Overall.
Rick Nash--- : 59 points in 82 games played: 87 Overall.

How come !? Strange class of 87 OV players.

Evgeni Malkin : 109 points in 75 games played : 91 Overall.
Sidney Crosby : 37 points in 22 games played : 95 Overall.

Why's the margin so huge between Malkin and Crosby ?

Phil Kessel : 82 points in 82 games played : 86 Overall.

This means Kessel could be traded for Plekanec anytime, once again.

John Tavares: 81 points (50 assists) in 82 games played. 85 Overall.

Less OVR than Plekanec, who has 52 points in the same amount of games played. Both players are Centers. Consistency?

I know this is from the Western Conference, but take the time to compare, still:

Dany Heatley : 53 points in 82 games played : 85 Overall. Compared to Elias, Heatley is a subliminal hockey God. He deserved +3 in OVR ?
Zach Parise : 69 points in 82 games played : 90 Overall. Compared to Claude Giroux (90 Overall, 93 points in 77 games played), he's found to be another great, hidden, godly hockey talent.

This is only a little part of the Eastern Conference. The whole ratings are biased. This is ridiculous.

[RealmK]

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I love how people are judging ratings based on just 1 season rather than careers. Let's see how it plays, then judge.

[Thief1337]

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I love how people are judging ratings based on just 1 season rather than careers. Let's see how it plays, then judge.

I compiled it. It admit it does explain a bit about Crosby and Malkin. But it doesn't explain to me how come Ennis and Desharnais are so worse in overall skills compared to Seguin, for instance. And Neal-Bourque, too. What about Heatley, too ? Spezza and Nash ? Semin and Plekanec ?

What is your point ? I would like to know, that's all.

[ComaFaction]

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Maybe because skill and point production do not correspond on a 1:1 basis. I have no problem with Seguin having a higher rating than Ennis.

[RealmK]

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I compiled it. It admit it does explain a bit about Crosby and Malkin. But it doesn't explain to me how come Ennis and Desharnais are so worse in overall skills compared to Seguin, for instance. And Neal-Bourque, too. What about Heatley, too ? Spezza and Nash ? Semin and Plekanec ?

What is your point ? I would like to know, that's all.

I believe they also take more than point totals. I would hazard a guess that potential and star power plays a role in overalls. Seguin I would think and this may be being a Bruins fan bias factoring in, is a bigger star than Ennis.

Honestly, I'm not in love with their overalls on the whole, I'd like them to use the entire spectrum of the scale, and it appears at least on paper that team overalls are still too close together.

I'll wait to judge however until playing the retail build.

[Wingnatic]

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I love how people are judging ratings based on just 1 season rather than careers. Let's see how it plays, then judge.

It SHOULD be based on one season, the previous season. They come out with a game every year. Player production and skill can change from year to year. I mean, if you took Jagr's whole career into account, his overall would be in the 90's. Same with Selanne. Are you saying Jagr and Selanne should have 90+ OVR in NHL 13? That's what it sounds like you're saying.

[Nizziano]

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Chris Kreider is not underrated. The guy has played 18 playoff games and that's it. Why should he be any higher? As I said above how many times have we seen guys play unreal in the playoffs only to never pan out for a good career in the NHL. Kreider is no lock just because he scored 5 goals and 2 assists in 18 playoff games which were the first games of his career. Also did you notice he was a -4 +- wise. That probably knocked his OVR total down. When you get the game look at his full ratings. His shooting, puck control, etc. will probably be in the low-mid 70's but his defense attributes will be in the 60's. That's fair ratings for a guy who's only played 18 games. They barely have any basis to go off of.

Still, RUPP is almost 10 points better then him, and only 1 point behind hags, tbh I would rather see Rupp around 64-65 and cranking Kreider up abit, and tbh, he played alot of season games also, and did a good impression. But hey, thats just me.

[JamieLeeWV]

I love how people are judging ratings based on just 1 season rather than careers. Let's see how it plays, then judge.

If that's the case why is elias only an 82?

[06woz]

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It SHOULD be based on one season, the previous season. They come out with a game every year. Player production and skill can change from year to year. I mean, if you took Jagr's whole career into account, his overall would be in the 90's. Same with Selanne. Are you saying Jagr and Selanne should have 90+ OVR in NHL 13? That's what it sounds like you're saying.

Ratings should be based on one season? So you want Radim Vrbata and Michael Ryder to be better goal scorers than Eberle, Sharp, Iginla, Tavares, Marleau and Daniel Sedin.

Something wrong with that interpretation? What he meant was one season doesn't make a player. If you were to make the overalls solely based on last season than the idea of an extended mode like Be A GM would be ruined.

Ratings are supposed to be a projection of the coming season as to closely replicate the year ahead. You don't base that on one year, you base it on a larger sample as well as development patterns and the current trajectory of the player(in other words, potential). These ratings are far from perfect, but worse than the ratings are half the justifications being used to bash them.

[kerosene31]

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Ratings should be based on one season?

Exactly. Making ratings and lineups in August isn't exactly easy. They have to build an NHL lineup when teams might not even be done making moves (obviously a bigger problem this year with the lockout). Heck, some teams aren't even over the cap floor.

The Sabres lineup and ratings are a perfect example. They have Leino as our #1 center at 81. He'll probably never play there. 2nd year player Hodgsen is probably going to get a shot at that spot, but EA can't rate him high enough because he's not done enough to prove anything yet. Ennis was our #2 center last year and finished the season on fire, but again should 25 games or so make him into a top tier player when his production hasn't been there historically?

Our young centers could be really good this season, or they could be a trainwreck. How do you rate for that? Instead you throw some vets in there with somewhat reasonable ratings rather than bet on some young player.

[mikko1995]

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I don't know if you guys have seen this, but here is the player card of John Tavares.

[canucksss]

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lets just admit it...EA really not good in rating players and teams. since 2 years ago their ratings are highly suspicious and to the point ridiculous. there's no way you can defend this effort of EA. are they trying to be "politically correct" by making the differences so close with each other????

now my biggest concern is, since its been a complaint about player/team differentiation...what is our guarantee that this is not the issue for nhl 13?

[JamieLeeWV]

Anyone got the player card for Kovalchuk?