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  • StrawHat Patriot
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 876

    #886
    Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

    Originally posted by mestevo
    Doubt the goals will be as bad as the hypotheticals you insist on bringing up in every thread.


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    You could of just said that I shouldn't say it in other threads too much.




    You know what, I'm sorry for bringing up stupid suggestions to make the game authentic. I didn't know that you didn't like them-and that's me. I should have thought of that - and I don't know what's wrong with me and my stupid complaining and whining and overall idiocy. I need to stop being annoying.

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    • seasprite
      Phenom
      • Jul 2008
      • 8984

      #887
      Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
      You could of just said that I shouldn't say it in other threads too much.




      You know what, I'm sorry for bringing up stupid suggestions to make the game authentic. I didn't know that you didn't like them-and that's me. I should have thought of that - and I don't know what's wrong with me and my stupid complaining and whining and overall idiocy. I need to stop being annoying.
      Perhaps if you want to make such a difference instead of trolling every single madden thread, you could complain to the people who actually make the game. Everything that you constantly bring up has been hashed out for over a month now. It gets to the point that you have to realize that your concerns are noted and continuing to go on about it is neither constructive or needed. JMO

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      • TeamBuilder
        MVP
        • Jun 2009
        • 2214

        #888
        Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

        Originally posted by moneal2001
        a bust would be a guy that didn't fit you system at all, strong arm qb where you run a west coast offense. players gain more xp the better they fit your system allowing them to progress faster than those that dont fit. also some players have a higher developmental trait(gaining more xp from goals). has anyone posted a scouting video yet? how hard or easy it is could be a huge factor in busts and gems.
        This concerns me. Some QB's like Rodgers, Brady, and Manning would be fantastic in every kind of offense no matter what they run. I'm worried that players will get pigeon-holed and I can't have an elite QB simply because my system doesn't like what they've been pigeon-holed to be.

        EDIT: Kinda feels like there is a lack of innovation.
        Last edited by TeamBuilder; 08-17-2012, 09:57 PM.

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        • StrawHat Patriot
          Banned
          • Apr 2012
          • 876

          #889
          Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

          Originally posted by seasprite
          Perhaps if you want to make such a difference instead of trolling every single madden thread, you could complain to the people who actually make the game. Everything that you constantly bring up has been hashed out for over a month now. It gets to the point that you have to realize that your concerns are noted and continuing to go on about it is neither constructive or needed. JMO

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          How am I trolling. If I created threads complaining at EA I would get banned, and if I ask people who take questions, I get criticized some times. When I do say stuff that hasn't been said, because you guys don't agree with it some of you say all I'm doing is bitching, trolling, complaining, or whining on threads that usually either allow us to give our own opinions or threads that are meant to have questions asked.

          You know what screw it. I don't want to get banned. So yes, sorry being a dumb trolling b*tch.

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          • Big FN Deal
            Banned
            • Aug 2011
            • 5993

            #890
            Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

            Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
            For me my problem is the goals. They can lead to some unrealistic results (for example, joe flacco doesn't meet a first round goal of throwing 4000 passing yards, CPU releases him WTF?)IMO if I'm correct about how it works.

            ALSO it's seems hard to draft a bust since you or the CPU determines who gets progression.

            For progression, and overall more immersion, like I said along time ago, I wish they incorporated special traits/player personality/emotions/feelings, etc. For example, this player has a lot of talent but VERY LOW worth ethic, very high confidence, and overall low determination, etc which will result in him being a bust.
            I get what you are saying but I don't think it works that way for players, lol, I think you are thinking about coaches. If, using your example, Flacco didn't meet his full goal of 4000 yards, he still gains XP, just not the max he could have but he could possibly regress in some area(s) due to not meeting his season goal.

            That's my point, that the system is by no means terrible and it seems like a good addition for those that want more direct control over progression. I just wish they had offered an option to "hide" this system under the hood, which is the same option I wanted for the Potential rating.

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            • StrawHat Patriot
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 876

              #891
              Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

              Originally posted by Big FN Deal
              I get what you are saying but I don't think it works that way for players, lol, I think you are thinking about coaches. If, using your example, Flacco didn't meet his full goal of 4000 yards, he still gains XP, just not the max he could have but he could possibly regress in some area(s) due to not meeting his season goal.

              That's my point, that the system is by no means terrible and it seems like a good addition for those that want more direct control over progression. I just wish they had offered an option to "hide" this system under the hood, which is the same option I wanted for the Potential rating.
              I don't think the system is horrible.

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              • Big FN Deal
                Banned
                • Aug 2011
                • 5993

                #892
                Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                Originally posted by TeamBuilder
                This concerns me. Some QB's like Rodgers, Brady, and Manning would be fantastic in every kind of offense no matter what they run. I'm worried that players will get pigeon-holed and I can't have an elite QB simply because my system doesn't like what they've been pigeon-holed to be.

                EDIT: Kinda feels like there is a lack of innovation.
                I disagree with this because early in their careers QBs can adjust better to new offenses but seasoned vets, not so much. Payton Manning wouldn't just go to any team and run any offense. The Broncos have tailored that offense around Manning, not the other way around and teams are even now starting to do that for Rookie QBs too. SO an elite QB would either go to some place that had a system they were familiar with or a team that would custom their system for that QB.

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                • Big FN Deal
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 5993

                  #893
                  Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                  Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                  I don't think the system is horrible.
                  A system where QBs were getting "fired"/cut just for not meeting lofty yardage goals, would be though, lol. Don't you agree?

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                  • StrawHat Patriot
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 876

                    #894
                    Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                    Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                    A system where QBs were getting "fired"/cut just for not meeting lofty yardage goals, would be though, lol. Don't you agree?
                    Yeah I do. I thought that you had to get the toughest goals completed to get xp and avoid the CPU from cutting you or releasing you.

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                    • bucknut88
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 255

                      #895
                      Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                      Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                      A system where QBs were getting "fired"/cut just for not meeting lofty yardage goals, would be though, lol. Don't you agree?
                      Is this confirmed? Do we know that this is the case? Or is this speculation? If this is the case, then yes thats a bit crazy. But I don't think this is the case.

                      You get XP for your players after every game. So I think the Season Goals are just huge XP boosts. I could be wrong, this IS speculation. But I KNOW that you get XP after every game. So if you throw for 400 yards you get more xp than if you throw for 100 yards. And you can apply the XP every week if you'd like.
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                      • moneal2001
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 835

                        #896
                        Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                        Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                        Yeah I do. I thought that you had to get the toughest goals completed to get xp and avoid the CPU from cutting you or releasing you.
                        player and coach goals are tiered. starting at level 1. if you complete enough to get to level 2 you keep your job as a coach and don't regress as a player(unless they are aging) and you get some xp. if you dont get to level 2 the player(unless they are young) regress and as a coach you can lose your job. so a coach for New England can have a goal of "Get to Superbowl" now you start at level 1 of that goal and level 2 could be something like making the playoffs. level 3 could be win division and level 4 being getting to the superbowl. for a player they would be similar take your flacco example: flacco's goal 4000 yards passing. well level 2 would be something like 2500, level 3 3500, and level 4 would be 4000. as long as you at least get to level 2 there aren't any negatives. and the farther you go up the tiers the more xp you get.

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                        • Big FN Deal
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 5993

                          #897
                          Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                          Originally posted by bucknut88
                          Is this confirmed? Do we know that this is the case? Or is this speculation? If this is the case, then yes thats a bit crazy. But I don't think this is the case.

                          You get XP for your players after every game. So I think the Season Goals are just huge XP boosts. I could be wrong, this IS speculation. But I KNOW that you get XP after every game. So if you throw for 400 yards you get more xp than if you throw for 100 yards. And you can apply the XP every week if you'd like.
                          Yeah it's confirmed that IS NOT the way the system works, lol. I was just responding to Straw that IF his hypothetical were true, which it IS NOT then that would be a terrible system, imo.

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                          • StrawHat Patriot
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 876

                            #898
                            Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                            Originally posted by moneal2001
                            player and coach goals are tiered. starting at level 1. if you complete enough to get to level 2 you keep your job as a coach and don't regress as a player(unless they are aging) and you get some xp. if you dont get to level 2 the player(unless they are young) regress and as a coach you can lose your job. so a coach for New England can have a goal of "Get to Superbowl" now you start at level 1 of that goal and level 2 could be something like making the playoffs. level 3 could be win division and level 4 being getting to the superbowl. for a player they would be similar take your flacco example: flacco's goal 4000 yards passing. well level 2 would be something like 2500, level 3 3500, and level 4 would be 4000. as long as you at least get to level 2 there aren't any negatives. and the farther you go up the tiers the more xp you get.
                            Sorry since this is probably the wrong place to ask but what if you get hurt and don't get a chance to reach any tier over level 2 or enough xp?

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                            • moneal2001
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 835

                              #899
                              Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                              Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                              Sorry since this is probably the wrong place to ask but what if you get hurt and don't get a chance to reach any tier over level 2 or enough xp?

                              well injured players would regress some. but players aren't let go based on meeting goals, i dont think(they just don't get xp or they regress). players are cut based on ratings like they always have been.

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                              • Big FN Deal
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 5993

                                #900
                                Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

                                Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                                Sorry since this is probably the wrong place to ask but what if you get hurt and don't get a chance to reach any tier over level 2 or enough xp?
                                Straw you do understand that not reaching goals does not mean players get instantly cut, right? So if a player didn't reach "level 2" goals, for whatever reason, including injury, then I would think they wouldn't get level 2 XP. I think you also have asked about Coaches getting fired if players get injured and again, I don't see the circumstances behind a Coach not reaching their goals having any bearing on the fact. In the real NFL most Owners/GMs don't care either, lol.

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