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  • ajk49er
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 715

    #1

    Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

    I know there are threads on this, I have seen the Q and A with someone who has retail and he said that the game still is NOT recording assisted tackles the way it should.

    my question comes down to is this because of the physics and it won't ever record correctly, or is it because they just made a massive mistake

    this could be a big problem in CCM if they arent recording assisted tackles
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  • eraserx13
    Rookie
    • Sep 2003
    • 265

    #2
    Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

    Agreed. This is a killer for getting realistic stats on defense and will make achieving goals for your defensive players in CCM even harder. This needs to be fixed.

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    • Tweeg
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1414

      #3
      Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

      Also agree this is a pretty big issue.
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      • Sdcgg81
        Rookie
        • Jul 2011
        • 46

        #4
        Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

        Originally posted by Tweeg
        Also agree this is a pretty big issue.
        Yep if your a defense of player on ccm this all but makes the mode unplayable. How can i make the hall of fame when the base stat for my side of The ball isn't recorded acuratley?

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        • Ferweezy
          Rookie
          • Dec 2007
          • 147

          #5
          This would be a game killer for me. I noticed on the demo. That none of my team had a ATK on their stats and there were gang tackles almost every play. It's already bad enough that the penalty system is broken. These little things EA always overlook. Kills the immersion of the game for me. I hope the retail fix this or have this patched.

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          • cl34v4g3
            Rookie
            • Oct 2010
            • 204

            #6
            Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

            I've been really thinking about the new "franchise mode" lately as I've been a big proponent of skipping this years game because of the things left out, yet now that the preseason is here I'm getting that itch and contemplating buying it.

            I was thinking about this earlier- with what we know about how some of the stats in the past Maddens being completely broken, how will the new xp based progression work?

            My biggest concerns are with the offensive line and defense.

            1. How will the OL gain xp when pancakes have never worked right?
            2. How will the RE gain xp if the LE is getting all the sacks?
            3. How will the LBs gain xp if they get a third of the tackles that the rest of the league gets?
            4. How will the DBs gain xp if they rarely get INTs because they have stone hands?

            These problems have been prevalent in every iteration of Madden on this generation.

            So in conclusion my question is simply how do my players gain xp and pass their goals when the main stats for their position don't tally correctly in the game?
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            • juggalotusx
              Pro
              • Apr 2009
              • 730

              #7
              Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

              Originally posted by cl34v4g3
              I've been really thinking about the new "franchise mode" lately as I've been a big proponent of skipping this years game because of the things left out, yet now that the preseason is here I'm getting that itch and contemplating buying it.

              I was thinking about this earlier- with what we know about how some of the stats in the past Maddens being completely broken, how will the new xp based progression work?

              My biggest concerns are with the offensive line and defense.

              1. How will the OL gain xp when pancakes have never worked right?
              2. How will the RE gain xp if the LE is getting all the sacks?
              3. How will the LBs gain xp if they get a third of the tackles that the rest of the league gets?
              4. How will the DBs gain xp if they rarely get INTs because they have stone hands?

              These problems have been prevalent in every iteration of Madden on this generation.

              So in conclusion my question is simply how do my players gain xp and pass their goals when the main stats for their position don't tally correctly in the game?
              All very good questions that need to answered. I hated the progression system and think the xp will be a good element to the game but with what you brought up now I wonder.. If no assist tackles what the heck but If I remember right that was just added a year or two ago, IDK the demo seems sloppy and dull. I think they have tried to make it way to complicated with all the different attributes and Im sure thats why most of the time they dont matter cause the system cant compute them.
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              • antnyboy20
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 39

                #8
                Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                This sounds like it could be a disaster if Goals for certain defensive players include a certain number of tackles per season if the assisted tackles aren't be recorded correctly. Come to think of it I haven't seen any traditional two man tackles trigger with the new Infinity engine. This could be the problem. Could any gamechangers possibly look into the goals for defensive players to see if they include number of tackles per season? This obv would mess up the xp system if so as I think it has something to do with the IE which prob won't be patchable.

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                • ghettogeeksta
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 2632

                  #9
                  Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                  Stats for assisted tackles is the least of my worries and I sure the Madden dev team feels the same. Just too many other more important issues to work on, maybe sometime next gen.

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                  • GAM3R4LYF3
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 277

                    #10
                    Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                    Originally posted by cl34v4g3
                    I've been really thinking about the new "franchise mode" lately as I've been a big proponent of skipping this years game because of the things left out, yet now that the preseason is here I'm getting that itch and contemplating buying it.

                    I was thinking about this earlier- with what we know about how some of the stats in the past Maddens being completely broken, how will the new xp based progression work?

                    My biggest concerns are with the offensive line and defense.

                    1. How will the OL gain xp when pancakes have never worked right?
                    2. How will the RE gain xp if the LE is getting all the sacks?
                    3. How will the LBs gain xp if they get a third of the tackles that the rest of the league gets?
                    4. How will the DBs gain xp if they rarely get INTs because they have stone hands?

                    These problems have been prevalent in every iteration of Madden on this generation.

                    So in conclusion my question is simply how do my players gain xp and pass their goals when the main stats for their position don't tally correctly in the game?
                    I remember hearing somewhere that progression and goals for positions like the OL and DL are based upon team stats. For example, OL goals might include giving up less than 3 sacks in a game, whereas, for the DL it could be hold the opposing team to 75 yards on the ground.

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                      Stats for assisted tackles is the least of my worries and I sure the Madden dev team feels the same. Just too many other more important issues to work on, maybe sometime next gen.
                      Sure there is more pressing needs, but this is still an issue that needs to be fixed.

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                      • eraserx13
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 265

                        #12
                        Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                        Any info on LB progression in CCM? Is it team based as well or more individual based, ie tackles, sacks, forced fumbles, recoveries, and INTs?

                        This is lame that there is always one thing that can kill a franchise as you progress deep in a career.

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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #13
                          Originally posted by eraserx13
                          Any info on LB progression in CCM? Is it team based as well or more individual based, ie tackles, sacks, forced fumbles, recoveries, and INTs?

                          This is lame that there is always one thing that can kill a franchise as you progress deep in a career.
                          Shouldn't be an issue with progression. I thought there was no longer any pre-determined progression. All of it is based on XP. You can progress any players you want at any position.

                          Where the assisted tackle issue may really be a problem is when you choose to be a defensive player (especially a LB) and your goal is to record 80 tackles in a season.

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                          • splff3000
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2867

                            #14
                            Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                            This is disappointing to hear. With all the focus on CC, I was hoping they had fixed this. It really sucks to have no chance of being one of the league leaders in tackles because assists aren't done correctly.
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                            • ajk49er
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 715

                              #15
                              Re: Assisted Tackles may be a massive issue

                              next gen? they worked at least to some extent last year!!! I mean cmon, enough with this next gen it doesnt matter nonsense. It would totally kill the career of any defensive player and takes away the chance to lead in tackles s well. if its not in the first patch, its a massive step backwards in stat tracking. which is sort of important in their new hyped CCM(which I am looking foward to,but won't appreciate my user safety going from 100-110 tackles down to 70
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