The problem is when people are dishing out constructive criticism AND ways the game can and should get better, we get battered with posts of "oh you hate Madden" or "you guys will never be satisfied" etc etc. Truth is, 2K, Sony, and all other NFL licensed games are gone currently. I personally want Madden to play much better as MADDEN not any other game. And as you have stated, like many others, it is not even close right now...and the issue most take with it, is that it really should be.