Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

[JimmyT85]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

With regards to people complaining about WR/TE sliding QB picks etc, don't forget that teams value different types of players differently to other teams.

Say the Dolphins had a huge need for a pass-catching TE, and the guy they took at #2 was the best best-catching TE they could draft for say 5 rounds (let's say the rest were more of a blocking TE etc), and they had no other glaring needs, and he fit their system perfectly etc, it'd make sense that they take him, no?

And say there were teams that DID need a QB in the first 19 picks. But say they wanted a scrambling QB, or a verticle passing QB, and the QB that went at #20 was a West Coast Offense guy? The CPU wouldn't take him, because he didn't fit their scheme.

There are a LOT more intangibles and factors to think about now, other than whether a team does or doesn't need a player at X position any more. A lot more things factor into a decisions. And it's much, much better this way, in my opinion.

[DaBlackGoku]

With regards to people complaining about WR/TE sliding QB picks etc, don't forget that teams value different types of players differently to other teams.

Say the Dolphins had a huge need for a pass-catching TE, and the guy they took at #2 was the best best-catching TE they could draft for say 5 rounds (let's say the rest were more of a blocking TE etc), and they had no other glaring needs, and he fit their system perfectly etc, it'd make sense that they take him, no?

And say there were teams that DID need a QB in the first 19 picks. But say they wanted a scrambling QB, or a verticle passing QB, and the QB that went at #20 was a West Coast Offense guy? The CPU wouldn't take him, because he didn't fit their scheme.

There are a LOT more intangibles and factors to think about now, other than whether a team does or doesn't need a player at X position any more. A lot more things factor into a decisions. And it's much, much better this way, in my opinion.

Smart man you are Jim.

[TwoHeadedDog]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

A 20 year old prospect in a generated draft class. I think that's a first for the Madden franchise. Nice to see.

[balcobomber25]

Would you be ok with a QB who's first name is Pooh?

lol The names seem very unique so I don't think we'll see that problem, but who knows!

Id like to be able to change the names once the draft is complete, this allows them to still have their story lines in season and allow the rest of us to be somewhat satisfied. But in years past when they used randomly generated names in sports games they would use the first and last names of current players in the game so within 5 years of playing a franchise it was quite possible to have 10+ guys in the league with the last names Romo, Green-Ellis, Roethlisberger, Polamalu or any other unique name you don't see every day.

[splff3000]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

Sick video!!!

LMAO at you people complaining about the picks. You have absolutely no idea of the context of this draft. Hell, this could be year 20 of CCM for all you know. You have no idea about anything regarding the season/seasons before this. You people are tripping. One guy said that a WR has only been taken first overall twice in NFL history, yet you people are still saying it's unrealistic. How is it unrealistic and it's happened already?!!! Twice!!!

I have a quick story for yall. In my OF last year, in one draft, we had a WR go #1 overall and in that same draft a TE went 3rd overall. Both were drafted by humans to fill team needs. The WR going #1 overall was kinda controversial to us, not because it was a WR, but because their seemed to be better WR's out there, but no one questioned the TE pick. He was a beast with like 91 spd and good receiving ratings. I think he was like a 86 overall or something when he came out.

That could be the case here. Both of these players could be straight up beasts, but you guys don't know that. You don't know anything. What you guys are doing is akin to judging a talent show by just looking at the contestants and not the acts themselves. Chill out!! This looks awesome. Let's just be happy that it looks like EA did something right for a change.

[drewcudi]

I do have a problem with WR and TE going 1-2 especially when they let you know the seventh pick Xavier waters was USCs coach quote unquote "best player I've ever seen"

[btvs]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

Looks really good.

[balcobomber25]

I do have a problem with WR and TE going 1-2 especially when they let you know the seventh pick Xavier waters was USCs coach quote unquote "best player I've ever seen"

Didn't realize USC coach was the be all end all for sports knowledge...

By your logic every team in the NFL should fire their entire scouting departments and just go off of what the college coaches tell the media. I am sure there is much less risk that way....

[bucknut88]

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Didn't realize USC coach was the be all end all for sports knowledge...

By your logic every team in the NFL should fire their entire scouting departments and just go off of what the college coaches tell the media. I am sure there is much less risk that way....

College coaches certainly don't want to influence where their players get drafted....after all, having their players later in the draft is good for them right? Coaches talk up their players all the time - better draft positions equals easier sells to high school players.

[balcobomber25]

College coaches certainly don't want to influence where their players get drafted....after all, having their players later in the draft is good for them right? Coaches talk up their players all the time - better draft positions equals easier sells to high school players.

I can remember coaches from the Pac-10 saying Ryan Leaf was the greatest player they have ever seen.....

[bucknut88]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

I can remember coaches from the Pac-10 saying Ryan Leaf was the greatest player they have ever seen.....

I was only 10 when he was drafted but if I remember correctly there were NFL teams that had Leaf over Manning. So obviously he was a bust, but not a bust people even saw coming.

I guess thats the definition of a bust though huh? lol

[imskykid]

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I do have a problem with WR and TE going 1-2 especially when they let you know the seventh pick Xavier waters was USCs coach quote unquote "best player I've ever seen"

They said that with the new story lines that they were going to have players hyped as the next big thing come in and be busts while the guys who they say has consistency problems will be a stud. That's why you have to scout players and not draft based on what Mark Schreleth and Skip Bayless tweet. You don't think real NFL GMs use twitter when they put their big boards together do you?

While I'm not going to ignore that there may be some draft logic flaws, this could be the direction the NFL is headed with the new rookie wage scale. You aren't paying $40 mil guaranteed to top picks any more so the more "traditional" top 5 picks may change.

Oh, and I guess those who say they were dumb taking a WR over the hyped QB with the 1st overall pick don't remember how that worked out for Oakland the last time they were faced with that decision IRL.

[balcobomber25]

I was only 10 when he was drafted but if I remember correctly there were NFL teams that had Leaf over Manning. So obviously he was a bust, but not a bust people even saw coming.

I guess thats the definition of a bust though huh? lol

They wont admit it today but most of the draft experts had him going over Manning too. I have always found it hilarious though that you can be wrong more than half the time but still be considered an "expert".

[balcobomber25]

They said that with the new story lines that they were going to have players hyped as the next big thing come in and be busts while the guys who they say has consistency problems will be a stud. That's why you have to scout players and not draft based on what Mark Schreleth and Skip Bayless tweet. You don't think real NFL GMs use twitter when they put their big boards together do you?

While I'm not going to ignore that there may be some draft logic flaws, this could be the direction the NFL is headed with the new rookie wage scale. You aren't paying $40 mil guaranteed to top picks any more so the more "traditional" top 5 picks may change.

Oh, and I guess those who say they were dumb taking a WR over the hyped QB with the 1st overall pick don't remember how that worked out for Oakland the last time they were faced with that decision IRL.

I remember when people blasted Houston for taking Mario Williams over Vince Young and Reggie Bush the more traditionally first overall positions. Mario Williams is possibly a future hall of famer, Reggie Bush has never been the Gale Sayers clone everyone made him out to be and Vince Young is now a backup to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Let that sink in for a second, a former number 3 overall pick is a backup to a guy who didnt even play FBS football...

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Video - Live Draft in Connected Careers Mode

the thing is we dont know if they didn't try that. we dont see cpu trade requests. they might have gotten offers to trade down but they were just not good ones. I remember on Head coach 09 getting crappy cpu trade offers during the draft and just having to be stuck with a pick quite a few times. and when you get stuck you draft what you need or what you want.

now if we would have seen the user try and offer the cpu 2 1s and a 2 for the pick and they turned it down and still drafted the TE then we would have a real cause to complain.

I feel you and again, in terms of draft down logic, I think it's rare for a team not reach some deal within the top 5-10, if they want to. Also, it seems unlikely that a team that is talented enough that their highest priority is a position like TE, would even be in the top 5 0r 10 of the draft. This is not a lottery like the NBA, NFL draft are dictated by each teams season record, so a team with a bad enough record to be at #2 overall, likely had more pressing needs than TE, lol.

Anyway, I think the trade down logic would be the way to go because even if a good team got a high draft pick through a past trade deal, like NE having a high pick because they got a pick from the Raiders for a player and the Raiders had a bad season that year, NE would still look to trade down that pick rather than draft a TE too high.

It's no big deal, imo, one of those video game moments because Users can certainly take any position they want too but they should look to structure it as NFL football fundamental as possible going forward.