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  • lordnate
    Rookie
    • Apr 2009
    • 78

    #1921
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    IMO, it is just a touched up Madden 12. It plays almost exactly the same, except it plays a little better. The graphics have been upgraded, the tackling has been upgraded, the lead passing has been upgraded, but it is still fundamentally the same. None of the new features make you change the way you play the game.

    One of the biggest gripes I've had about Madden for years that still exists is how the running game is completely stupid. The strategy in the running game is all about gap control. There is no real concept of gap control in Madden because if a player gets touched by an offensive lineman he gets sucked in front of him. In real football you have one and two gap assignments. If I rush the left A gap and get blocked, by the center, that doesn't mean I have to now not fill that gap until I shed the block. I can get blocked and still fill my assignment because I'm still in the gap.

    This to me seems like it could be easily fixed within Madden's game play system. As long as they use a lock-on blocking system instead of real time physics for the blocking, all they have to do is add a side blocking animation. If a lineman throws a block into the left side of your defensive player, your defensive player shouldn't have to turn and face him. He should just lean in that direction to push back, allowing him to easily disengage if the RB runs to his right, but he should be sealed so he can't get there if the RB run behind the lineman to his left.

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    • longranger
      Pro
      • Oct 2008
      • 917

      #1922
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      i was really surprised with this! I think it is the best Madden in many years!!!!
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      • Roncatto
        Rookie
        • Jun 2010
        • 494

        #1923
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        I love the demo apart from one thing that concerns me that I'm assuming (mother of all *****), it has been spotted and fixed for retail release.

        At least once a game if i run Man - Press Coverage with 2 deep safetys, the CPU WR on the left side will blast past my CB (ok thats fine, some WR are too fast and physical to be held up too long), but then they are all by themselves with no safteys in sight?

        Maybe being a Brit and only knowing about 70% of NFL plays etc maybe this is my error, but im sure at least one of the safteys would spot this and go over to cover and not be standing with the LB's as the throw comes over.

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        • Smoke6
          MVP
          • Apr 2011
          • 1454

          #1924
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Originally posted by Roncatto
          I love the demo apart from one thing that concerns me that I'm assuming (mother of all *****), it has been spotted and fixed for retail release.

          At least once a game if i run Man - Press Coverage with 2 deep safetys, the CPU WR on the left side will blast past my CB (ok thats fine, some WR are too fast and physical to be held up too long), but then they are all by themselves with no safteys in sight?

          Maybe being a Brit and only knowing about 70% of NFL plays etc maybe this is my error, but im sure at least one of the safteys would spot this and go over to cover and not be standing with the LB's as the throw comes over.
          This happens to me aswell, I was thinking it was just that good of a WR but I believe it is an issue as it happens like once a game when the CPU no huddles.

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          • UNC_Pete
            MVP
            • Jun 2005
            • 2487

            #1925
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            I've only had a quarter worth of game time in, but it looks like it's heading in the direction Madden 09 should have went. Is this a contract year or something? Lots of improvements..Not sure if they will get my $60, though..

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            • Flightwhite24
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2005
              • 12094

              #1926
              Well my copy is sitting at the Post Office. Gonna be a long night


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              • Smoke6
                MVP
                • Apr 2011
                • 1454

                #1927
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by FLIGHTWHITE
                Well my copy is sitting at the Post Office. Gonna be a long night


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                • T1TRAPTOR
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 636

                  #1928
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Originally posted by StickSkillz
                  Anybody know when the demo will be up for non gold members for 360?
                  I'm assuming today.

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                  • reth316
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 182

                    #1929
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    how are you peeps getting it early?
                    #dcRising

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                    • Masakra
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 63

                      #1930
                      Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      So ya, just finished playing two "full" games with the two different sets of teams the demo offers on All-Pro and here's my take:

                      Pros:
                      - The much-hyped tackling engine is solid and enjoyable to watch
                      - Graphics are slightly better; animations are decent step up as well

                      Cons:
                      - Psychic CBs/Ss are definitely back and in full force; for some reason, EA Sports thinks that only b/c they slightly fixed the LBs' crazy interception problems of last year, that will make the passing system more legit...its not.
                      - Meanwhile, the CPU passing is still frustratingly broken by a large margin; if I were to throw a 30-yd out to a WR in double-coverage, there would be no chance of a catch; however, somehow Alex Smith (an average QB by any stretch) is able to complete a perfect spiral under pressure to Moss who is double-covered and in traffic for a 21-yd completion to pick up a 1st-down. Really Madden? You honestly think this can EVER happen in reality? Great "simulation"...
                      - The game returns its ridiculous feature that prevents one from getting too big of a lead if the teams are evenly matched overall; like in the example above, I was playing as the 89 overall Giants against the 90 overall 49ers and was leading by 10; faced with a 3rd down and 5 minutes left in the game, Smith throws that impossible pass to Moss, followed by a 41 yd completion to Crabtree who somehow manages to get by his CB, a LB and the S to get wide open for the completion. All of a sudden I'm up 3 and decide to run the ball to push the time down...and who would have guessed it...a fumble. The 49ers convert it to 3 points and then I need to pull all the stops on my next possession to hammer 3 points with the time expiring. Again: really Madden? I've been playing pretty all game and in the span of 2 minutes, everything goes horribly wrong just b/c you didn't like how big of a lead I had against a team who's supposedly "better" by one overall point? Ridiculous...
                      - Commentating was awful and inaccurate as always
                      - CPU's defense is somehow magically able to predict which side I'm going to run to and reorganize their blitz patterns when I pick a run play 99% of the time.

                      Overall: another failed attempt by EA Sports. I honestly can't wait for 2K to be able to start making football games again not b/c I think their better or anything...but b/c the competition it will give EA motivation to actually start making better IN-GAME improvements, rather than just the yearly lazy graphics/roster/1-2 new feature(s) update that's occurring now.

                      In conclusion: I've fallen for cranking out my hard-earned $60 for their lazy games the last two years, but this is just ridiculous. EA Sports will not be getting it this year and from here onward until significant IN-GAME improvements are made and the word "simulation" can be used justifiably again.

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                      • Badboy49er
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 894

                        #1931
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Personally enjoying the demo quite a bit. there are a lot of little things that ive seen bugs wise, but overall i really like the direction. The physics engine is my fav part. Yes you see weird stuff happen and its not perfect but at least you see some cool stuff during pile ups, and when running the ball. They still need to fix the OL/DL interactions and i suppose that wont be the case this generation, but the new pass trajectories are very welcome.

                        Looking forward to this Madden more so than any in many years.
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                        • NoleFan
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 12855

                          #1932
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Typically, I play coach mode exclusively but I had a good bit of fun playing as QB/K/P only yesterday evening. I just let GameFlow call the plays and I tried to run what the coaches called.

                          I think it's definitely time to go ahead and trade in Madden's younger brother and put that toward my previously pre-ordered copy of 13.
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                          • Smoke6
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1454

                            #1933
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            Originally posted by Masakra
                            So ya, just finished playing two "full" games with the two different sets of teams the demo offers on All-Pro and here's my take:

                            Pros:
                            - The much-hyped tackling engine is solid and enjoyable to watch
                            - Graphics are slightly better; animations are decent step up as well

                            Cons:
                            - Psychic CBs/Ss are definitely back and in full force; for some reason, EA Sports thinks that only b/c they slightly fixed the LBs' crazy interception problems of last year, that will make the passing system more legit...its not.
                            - Meanwhile, the CPU passing is still frustratingly broken by a large margin; if I were to throw a 30-yd out to a WR in double-coverage, there would be no chance of a catch; however, somehow Alex Smith (an average QB by any stretch) is able to complete a perfect spiral under pressure to Moss who is double-covered and in traffic for a 21-yd completion to pick up a 1st-down. Really Madden? You honestly think this can EVER happen in reality? Great "simulation"...
                            - The game returns its ridiculous feature that prevents one from getting too big of a lead if the teams are evenly matched overall; like in the example above, I was playing as the 89 overall Giants against the 90 overall 49ers and was leading by 10; faced with a 3rd down and 5 minutes left in the game, Smith throws that impossible pass to Moss, followed by a 41 yd completion to Crabtree who somehow manages to get by his CB, a LB and the S to get wide open for the completion. All of a sudden I'm up 3 and decide to run the ball to push the time down...and who would have guessed it...a fumble. The 49ers convert it to 3 points and then I need to pull all the stops on my next possession to hammer 3 points with the time expiring. Again: really Madden? I've been playing pretty all game and in the span of 2 minutes, everything goes horribly wrong just b/c you didn't like how big of a lead I had against a team who's supposedly "better" by one overall point? Ridiculous...
                            - Commentating was awful and inaccurate as always
                            - CPU's defense is somehow magically able to predict which side I'm going to run to and reorganize their blitz patterns when I pick a run play 99% of the time.

                            Overall: another failed attempt by EA Sports. I honestly can't wait for 2K to be able to start making football games again not b/c I think their better or anything...but b/c the competition it will give EA motivation to actually start making better IN-GAME improvements, rather than just the yearly lazy graphics/roster/1-2 new feature(s) update that's occurring now.

                            In conclusion: I've fallen for cranking out my hard-earned $60 for their lazy games the last two years, but this is just ridiculous. EA Sports will not be getting it this year and from here onward until significant IN-GAME improvements are made and the word "simulation" can be used justifiably again.
                            Man, I can't help but refute this impression, its obvious you are playing something else.

                            Can you show if tell me when and where the psychic DBs were present?

                            Moss is just moss and he has done that a lot in his career, I can see if its an "every single time" type of thing like cheese but its not.

                            It's starting to become evident that no one is even trying, I was the hardest on madden with criticisms, but man I don't go looking for the negatives, I wait for thngs to happen over and over a number of times. It's a demo, and with that being said....

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                            • Flightwhite24
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 12094

                              #1934
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                              • DetroitStyle
                                Meow
                                • May 2011
                                • 1045

                                #1935
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                I enjoyed the demo and the new physics engine. The commentary is manageable but it is refreshing then what we've had. I like where the team is going with madden and hopefully CCM is new vision for madden and it isn't just stripped down in future years.

                                The only thing i really don't like in the demo is the art design for presentation banners. The blue look for menus and stat overlays looks cheap. I would've liked a black carbon palette for the scoreboard and the overlays. The blue just looks cartoonist and not really futuristic.

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