NBA Live 13 Gameplay Video - Miami Heat vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

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See how nice this man is even though people here have been all over this footage?

I hope - no, I EXPECT - that our members will be kind enough to offer constructive criticism in return.

If he's here to hear us out, do it the right way.

This is the equivalent of a flop

..and I mean like

[CMH]

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This is the equivalent of a flop

..and I mean like

Me or them? I don't understand.

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Them not you

Again as Pared said.. that's already been done, and they got no response.

After that I saw the Community guys get ignored for longer than a year even though they continually asked over and over, then get back slapped with that contest thing that popped up on Facebook which eliminated them

The only time they seemed to listen a bit was when they made Live 10..but thats beating a dead horse right

...and the timing of this post is incredible after the most recent events.. before this nobody could get a word out of EA, so I know they know, just wasn't saying anything... now its share and care time?

Sorry man

[BlingBling19]

The presentation and stats at the bottom of the screen looked good. The gameplay though looks awful.

[CMH]

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...and the timing of this post is incredible after the most recent events.. before this nobody could get a word out of EA, so I know they know, just wasn't saying anything... now its share and care time?

Sorry man

The timing is obvious. Agreed.

And I know it's beginning to feel like that person you know that burned you once, twice, however many times and is asking for another chance.

I want to go tell EA to screw themselves. They had their chances and didn't listen.

But, what we have been asking for is input and someone to listen. Maybe this is it? I don't know.

What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

[TheUndogmatic]

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Constructive feedback and video analysis is welcomed. You don't necessarily have to be here to get the ball rolling. All ideas, opinions, and feedback is welcomed. At the end of the day we want an NBA game that fans will enjoy and identify with.

All I can say is to bring people who have good knowledge of basketball in for feedback, and also listen to gamer feedback. And put that feedback in the game. Also add some in-depth modes, take notes from 2k. Not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just saying.

[BlingBling19]

I'll also add since this is I guess a "pre alpha" build as was said maybe there is hope for the gameplay with the real version.

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The timing is obvious. Agreed.
didn't listen.

But, what we have been asking for is input and someone to listen. Maybe this is it? I don't know.

What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

At this point, communication alone wont work

Until this game starts to produce something that is supposed to be on par with todays games, its just another flop like all of rest of the games in every genre

[bigeastbumrush]

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Constructive feedback and video analysis is welcomed. You don't necessarily have to be here to get the ball rolling. All ideas, opinions, and feedback is welcomed. At the end of the day we want an NBA game that fans will enjoy and identify with.

Clearly there are people out there who are passionate about past Live iterations and any future Live titles...just by the length of this thread.

Why have Facebook contests and all these type of promos to get people over to the EA studios to provide constructive feedback on your game? What avenues can you be reached by?

You guys wait entirely too long and invite the wrong set of people (from my perspective) to provide feedback on what you're doing.

The whole "hush-hush we don't want anyone to steal our ideas so we're gonna keep it closed doors" thinking is just setting yourselves up for failure.

No one is pretending to be smarter than the people who are working on the game. But community feedback way before you release is the only way you guys are gonna get it.

One video in 2 years and people are talking about it. Providing "constructive" criticism. And you guys didn't even release the video. What does that tell you?

[Pared]

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What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

They can start by utilizing the feedback of the guys that were there for Elite.

I was one of them and I don't need to be involved. But the guys that were there had great ideas, none of which were implemented in Elite.

Another thing that caused me to go out for the Elite event were the individuals invited did not have:

-A YouTube following or some other video blog heavy agenda
-A website where they were looking for exclusives
-Any sort of "inside" elbow-rubbing deal with anyone from EA
-Some connection to the media

You care about the game? Bring people out that want to focus on the game.

Hell, we were shown NBA Jam before most knew about it and I loved it more than Elite. Trey spoke at length and wanted our feedback.

The saddest part? Guys started playing Live '10 instead of Elite when we were there. I'venever seen that ever in a community event; Where guys play the old game instead of the new one...

The sad part is most of their ideas could have worked if they followed the input they were given. I told them it was unnatural to keep the dribbling hand when going to the sidelines. They were going for one-to-one control, but no one runs to the left sideline hard with the ball in their right hand.

Why does it take this video for people from EA to discuss anything?

There is your damage control right there.

[King_B_Mack]

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The timing is obvious. Agreed.

And I know it's beginning to feel like that person you know that burned you once, twice, however many times and is asking for another chance.

I want to go tell EA to screw themselves. They had their chances and didn't listen.

But, what we have been asking for is input and someone to listen. Maybe this is it? I don't know.

What would you want them to do to show they really will listen this time? Serious question. I don't know what would actually convince me, but I get the feeling it will take someone there opening up that line of communication (officially), receiving that input, and then showing us how they implemented that input. However, that requires people actually wanting to both receive and give input.

For starters, it wouldn't hurt them to open up their communication lines with the community before the 5-6 week to release mark if they really care what everybody has to say and eliminating the whole cloak and dagger routine. Let's be real, we've been sitting around here for months questioning if this damn game is going to come out or not and if it's even going to be on a disc or not without anybody even at least giving us the LD2K gif treatment and then a video that they didn't release comes out and three days later after everybody saw through the 'pre-alpha' defense a community guy shows up? Step one towards building or in this case rebuilding trust with someone is to eliminate shady actions from your routine. At this point, this is basically a new director rebooting a movie we've already seen and basically not putting his own spin on it but remaking it scene for scene.

[JerzeyReign]

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To be fair Emmdot was a GC, this move to Community Manager had to have happened in the last week or two.

[Subversion]

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Constructive feedback and video analysis is welcomed. You don't necessarily have to be here to get the ball rolling. All ideas, opinions, and feedback is welcomed. At the end of the day we want an NBA game that fans will enjoy and identify with.

It would be great if EA confirmed our feedback, and also pointed out what was implemented based on our feedback.

There are a lot of us who work in the industry and know, from a professional stand point, what it takes to make a great game. Some of us have played Live and 2K since their inception, and we happen to be active players in the sport, and we have developed lots of great ideas on how to make a truly great SIM Basketball game. So it would be in your best interest to take our feedback with utmost importance, because your brand is at stake. Your producers should have been collecting this feedback since 2010.

After seeing the private presentation at E3 of Live 13' I feel as though the wrong people were leading this project. No enthusiasm, flat ideas and no vision for SIM Basketball.

Thanks for coming out and asking for feedback, but understand why we feel it has gone through one ear and out the other.

[Nathan_OS]

I'm really surprised this thread got so much love lol

[youvalss]

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All I can say is to bring people who have good knowledge of basketball in for feedback, and also listen to gamer feedback. And put that feedback in the game. Also add some in-depth modes, take notes from 2k. Not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just saying.

That's true. But even before that they need to hire some physicists and doctors, because they clearly don't understand, or can't create, human body movement on earth.