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  • bwiggy33
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    • Jul 2006
    • 2003

    #46
    Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

    Originally posted by RealmK
    However the larger issues they needed to tackle, skating, GM logic, AI were more than just one cycle simple fixes. Getting all those strategies and forecheck situations into the game and working properly to me seems a far bigger task than just rewritting a couple lines of code from an existing base, because remember, often if you tweak one thing in code, it can break several other things.

    Yes the offline game was a bit neglected, but not knowing what was going on behind the scenes, and taking a much smaller budget into account, I have a hard time believing the team didn't want to rest on the laurels and just make small minor improvements. As we've seen this year with the skating engine addition, along with GMBrain (if it works as advertised) and GM Connected etc.

    If nothing else I'd say the game this year has more major additions in all the years prior on this current console cycle put together.
    See and I understand that these fixes they made this year are not one cycle fixes. To me I just don't understand how these things weren't thought of when NHL 07 was released. These are all things that should have been in a plan of what they wanted to be done. Did they have the technology at the time? I have no clue, but I just think the NHL team is so far behind what they could have already had. The major changes that 13 has brought seem like they could have been done by at least NHL 11. I just think NHL has fallen 2 or 3 years behind where all of these changes could have been. Just my opinion and as I've stated I don't know what went on behind the scenes but I have an extremely hard time believing the things we are getting for 13 couldn't have been done sooner.

    I honestly wish the NHL dev team would come out and say why this and that wasn't done sooner. I just want some communication from them so we know that they are listening. There really is none of that at all. If they just came out and said why this and that feature wasn't added it would make me feel a whole lot better. Since there is no communication or anything that's when I get kind of angry.
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    • RealmK
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      • Sep 2003
      • 4198

      #47
      Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

      Originally posted by bwiggy33
      See and I understand that these fixes they made this year are not one cycle fixes. To me I just don't understand how these things weren't thought of when NHL 07 was released. These are all things that should have been in a plan of what they wanted to be done. Did they have the technology at the time? I have no clue, but I just think the NHL team is so far behind what they could have already had. The major changes that 13 has brought seem like they could have been done by at least NHL 11. I just think NHL has fallen 2 or 3 years behind where all of these changes could have been. Just my opinion and as I've stated I don't know what went on behind the scenes but I have an extremely hard time believing the things we are getting for 13 couldn't have been done sooner.

      I honestly wish the NHL dev team would come out and say why this and that wasn't done sooner. I just want some communication from them so we know that they are listening. There really is none of that at all. If they just came out and said why this and that feature wasn't added it would make me feel a whole lot better. Since there is no communication or anything that's when I get kind of angry.
      Honestly I don't blame the NHL devs for not coming around OS anymore. There's only so many times you can explain that the game has no comeback logic to people only to have them call you wrong when you're a dev working on the game.

      Redshirt put up with a whole ton of crap from quite a few people for a while there. I don't blame him one bit.

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      • bwiggy33
        MVP
        • Jul 2006
        • 2003

        #48
        Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

        Originally posted by RealmK
        Honestly I don't blame the NHL devs for not coming around OS anymore. There's only so many times you can explain that the game has no comeback logic to people only to have them call you wrong when you're a dev working on the game.

        Redshirt put up with a whole ton of crap from quite a few people for a while there. I don't blame him one bit.
        I can understand that, but if you look at it the Madden and NCAA Devs even have at least some communication on OS and those are two of the most bashed games on this site. No matter what they do the games get bashed. I can't imagine the NHL forums being worse. Then again though Madden and NCAA definitely have more workers and budget to come on here and just interact with us.
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        • TDKing
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          • Feb 2003
          • 1845

          #49
          Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

          Originally posted by RealmK
          How so? Holding 2 shoulder buttons to do a slap shot, while trying to aim with an analog while the AI is buzzing all over the zone like a hive of angry bees was oh so intuitive.
          If you are referring to 2k8 controls I disagree. If you gave it sometime it all became very natural and was very intuitive. I actually felt like I had total control in that game, it actually felt like I was playing the game. Not this "contextual" crap EA has been forcing on us in all their games, not just hockey. Of course you won't agree but that's ok, and yes its jmo.

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          • RealmK
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            • Sep 2003
            • 4198

            #50
            Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

            Originally posted by TDKing
            If you are referring to 2k8 controls I disagree. If you gave it sometime it all became very natural and was very intuitive. I actually felt like I had total control in that game, it actually felt like I was playing the game. Not this "contextual" crap EA has been forcing on us in all their games, not just hockey. Of course you won't agree but that's ok, and yes its jmo.
            No I don't, I shouldn't have to use half the controller points on a gamepad just to do a slap shot while fending off an over aggressive AI that wouldn't know positioning if it kicked it in the head. When all you need to do is pull back on one analog and push forward. To each their own and all but convincing me that 2k8 or really any NHL2k's controls are really any thing remotely intuitive just isn't gonna happen, and this is coming from someone who played the series exclusively from 2k3 to 2k6 with giving 2k8-10 chance after chance.

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            • infinityBCRT
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 86

              #51
              Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

              Originally posted by RealmK
              Honestly I don't blame the NHL devs for not coming around OS anymore. There's only so many times you can explain that the game has no comeback logic to people only to have them call you wrong when you're a dev working on the game.

              Redshirt put up with a whole ton of crap from quite a few people for a while there. I don't blame him one bit.
              Redshirt got quite mad at me at one point for digging in on the lack of skating physics a few years back. Of course, since then they made it their biggest goal to get in better skating physics
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              • Qb
                All Star
                • Mar 2003
                • 8798

                #52
                Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

                Originally posted by tsp120
                For those who are tired of Bill and Gary doing the commentary, have you ever considered just turning off the commentary? That's actually the first thing I do when I get a new sports game. I max out the crowd noise and remove the commentary. I love it that way. Just a thought.
                This is what I do for OTP, along with a custom organ-only pack for between whistles. I leave the commentary on for regular games, but since I played much more OTP in the past few years it's almost a nice change of pace to hear Gary & Bill.

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                • JoelG29
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                  • Aug 2012
                  • 5

                  #53
                  Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

                  Will Justin Schultz be in the game on release day?

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                  • CigarCityBandit
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 345

                    #54
                    Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

                    What was that at 10:27?
                    He stops the video and replays the defender taking a poke at the puck carriers feet which jars the puck off of the stick??
                    I dont think Ive seen that happen ever. If you hit a guy hard enough on the skate to jar the puck off his stick which is on the other side of his body Im sure that would probably result in a penalty.
                    I DLd the demo but havent played it yet.
                    Is this guy playing the demo or the retail version?
                    And Ive never played hockey but I attend about 40 NHL games a year. If Im wrong about what I saw let me know.

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                    • Redshirt_EA
                      NHL 13 Developer
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 575

                      #55
                      Re: NHL 13 Video - Sean Ramjagsingh Talks About Presentation, Gameplay, Strategies &

                      Originally posted by infinityBCRT
                      Redshirt got quite mad at me at one point for digging in on the lack of skating physics a few years back. Of course, since then they made it their biggest goal to get in better skating physics
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                      I did?

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