NHL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[jonapaloma]

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I understand there are sliders. Those sliders don't do anything with what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about foot planting and sliding across the crease in a realistic fashion ala 2k8. Go on youtube and search 2k8 goalies if you don't know about them. They footplant and move with weight and momentum like a real goalie should. In NHL they just warp across the crease and move at 100 mph. It's been the exact same since 07. To me they just look unnatural, to others they are completely fine. We all have parts we like and dislike. The goalies happen to be my most hated part.

I hear Ya. If 2k did it why cant EA.

And some other thing you can do and how things look in nhl 2k are simply amazing. Those games from 2k is in many ways very inferior ti EA nhl games but in some areas EA could learn a thing or two from 2k. IMO

[bwiggy33]

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I hear Ya. If 2k did it why cant EA.

And some other thing you can do and how things look in nhl 2k are simply amazing. Those games from 2k is in many ways very inferior ti EA nhl games but in some areas EA could learn a thing or two from 2k. IMO

Exactly! I'm a believer that you can look at other products for ideas on what it did well. Now that 2k hockey is for all intents and purposes dead, why can't EA look at their game and see what they did well. Obviously I'm not saying EA should copy what 2k did because they can't and they shouldn't. NHL is a completely different game and very well rounded, but there are aspects of 2k that they can look at and make them fit in NHL. If EA thinks every part of their game is better than what any other NHL video game has done, then they are nuts.

[DJ]

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Exactly! I'm a believer that you can look at other products for ideas on what it did well. Now that 2k hockey is for all intents and purposes dead, why can't EA look at their game and see what they did well. Obviously I'm not saying EA should copy what 2k did because they can't and they shouldn't. NHL is a completely different game and very well rounded, but there are aspects of 2k that they can look at and make them fit in NHL. If EA thinks every part of their game is better than what any other NHL video game has done, then they are nuts.

Other games do it. MLB The Show added in analog controls after 2K had them, and NBA 2K has changed its dribbling system to more-closely resemble what was in NBA Live. So yeah, no reason why the NHL series couldn't do the same thing.

[Guigsdaddy]

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Seems like there is a lack of penalities again. I know the sliders aren't maxed but I'm not seeing any in the demo.

[bwiggy33]

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Other games do it. MLB The Show added in analog controls after 2K had them, and NBA 2K has changed its dribbling system to more-closely resemble what was in NBA Live. So yeah, no reason why the NHL series couldn't do the same thing.

Yep no question. Also with The Show borrowing something from MLB 2k your looking at a game that is far superior than it's counterpart and putting their own sort of spin on analog controls. When you see The Show use something from 2k you know that other games can start doing the same. Of course I love The Show and dislike the MLB 2k series which is why I bought a PS3 a couple years ago. Ultimately EA doesn't have to do everything to a tee of what another game did. They do what works for them, but it's admitting and finding the flaws in your game and reacting to them instead of just letting them go. That's why this game has seemed stale for the past 4 years. They never attempted to make that huge gameplay change to put the game over the top. I'd rather see effort than have basically the same game for the past 3 or so years. NHL 13 is the first time we've seen it since 07 and they even admitted that themselves.

[RealmK]

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Im getting a bit tired of this. Everytime someone says something negative about EA's NHL games, RealmK comes here to defend the game or starts bashing 2K for no reason. It almost feels that we can't say any negative comments here without being attacked. And now that 2K Hockey is dead, you also seem really like to bash NBA2K-series here... and this is a hockey forum.

Here we have a latest excample. bwiggy33 made some good and non provocative points about EA's goalies and then suddenly Realm comes and starts massive 2K bashing.

Really, relax. Everyone here doesn't have to think that NHL 13 is a perfect game.

NHL13 isn't a perfect game, nor will it ever be, it's always going to have things that could be done better, but I'm sorry if I don't agree that a last gen hockey series that never made the leap to next gen does anything better, because in my mind it doesn't. It's a difference of opinion.

Sure I defend this series because I think it's that good in comparison, not that I don't have negative things I don't like about it myself.

[gopher_guy]

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I like some things in the demo but there is still one thing I absolutely hate about this series. They make the computer reaction time too fast. Like there is just no delay in them reacting. If a goalie makes a save, they know exactly where to go way too early for the rebound.

Make it seem more human for the love of god. The cpu shouldn't be able to fire off a 90 mph slap shot and have a teammate know where exactly the rebound is going in .001 milliseconds. What happens is that the cpu will get a rebound and automatically put it in an open net regardless of the fact that the rebound came at him at a super high speed. The cpu will still react perfectly and one time it in without any hesitation/delay/whatever. Takes away from the immersion a lot IMO.

Late in responding to this:

There needs to be a compromise from us fans in AI reaction time. Obviously AI will never be as good as a human, so they have to let the AI "cheat" by boosting it up a bit.

I would rather have them air on this side rather than having AI players reacting way too slowly.

[SlyBelle]

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Seems like there is a lack of penalities again. I know the sliders aren't maxed but I'm not seeing any in the demo.

I have seen this too. There should be 6-7 per game. I fear even with slider adjustments it won't get better since that was the way in the past. If they could get this right the game would be great for me. But I can't play a hockey game with one penalty a game.

[jonapaloma]

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Its obviously extremely important that the sliders "works" this time. And as someone wrote earlier the range should be larger than between 1-6. If there were a larger gap I think it would be easier to make the AI better or worse via the sliders.

[Panicshade]

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I have seen this too. There should be 6-7 per game. I fear even with slider adjustments it won't get better since that was the way in the past. If they could get this right the game would be great for me. But I can't play a hockey game with one penalty a game.

I've had penalties in about half of the games I have played. It is a demo of only 1 period that only lasts a few minutes in real time. It isn't a full game so it is hard to say one way or the other if the penalties are "broken". For me I wouldn't want to play a demo period that had penalties called every few seconds because to me that is "broken" as well.

[Eddie1967]

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Im getting a bit tired of this. Everytime someone says something negative about EA's NHL games, RealmK comes here to defend the game or starts bashing 2K for no reason. It almost feels that we can't say any negative comments here without being attacked. And now that 2K Hockey is dead, you also seem really like to bash NBA2K-series here... and this is a hockey forum.

Here we have a latest excample. bwiggy33 made some good and non provocative points about EA's goalies and then suddenly Realm comes and starts massive 2K bashing.

Really, relax. Everyone here doesn't have to think that NHL 13 is a perfect game.

I couldn't have said it better myself. This is what ruined the 2k hockey forums and it's hard to believe that even though 2k no longer makes hockey games, this type of juvenile activity still goes on here.

[SlyBelle]

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I've had penalties in about half of the games I have played. It is a demo of only 1 period that only lasts a few minutes in real time. It isn't a full game so it is hard to say one way or the other if the penalties are "broken". For me I wouldn't want to play a demo period that had penalties called every few seconds because to me that is "broken" as well.

Don't get me wrong, I hope it is finally better than past versions. I just suspect it isn't based on past versions and this one. There isn't many hockey games were zero penalties are called in a period regardless how short the time is. Power play is too critical for it to hot realistically be modeled.

[dmslapped]

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i wish they had some kind of stick collision, a stick went right through the goalie and they showed it to me right up close from the wonderful view of the net camera

[Gagnon39]

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This happens every year and NHL 13 is no different. The more I play this game the more I'm liking it. The thing that I'm really starting to notice is the difference between the average and good players. I really like how with some of the average players you just lose the puck going into turns, stopping, and in traffic. That's exactly how it should be.

[gopher_guy]

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I think I am finally getting the quick dekes down. Go into a glide and go 1/8 of a circle left or right. They can be a pretty effective way to cut between a couple defenders.

I just scored one of the most realistic looking goals I have ever seen on a video game, I hope my description can do it justice, lol.

I came in from the left hard to the net with a 3-on-2, passed to the slot for a one timer, but the NJ defenseman got his stick on it, and sent it up ice. Drew Doughty got the puck just before it cleared the zone, "pivoted" a quarter turn [using the back skate trigger] to protect the puck from the defender headed straight for him, fired a slap shot. It went into Brodeur's five hole, and slipped out from his pads, just how it looks in real life, and into the net.

Wish we could watch replays so I could have seen it in the TBC